"Grove" = "Obelisk" = WASHINGTON MONUMENT

Ba'al, i thought it was Molech.

Either way it's pretty dumb.

Oh FFS.

These "Groves" are EVERYWHERE! Even in my city of Asheville, the Pack Square boasts a large obelisk/grove. I'm keeping an eye on this one as well.

[link to www.nps.gov]

Get back to me when this thing falls over. Dumb or not, it is what it is and God will not be mocked.

[link to www.youtube.com]
food for thought

Thanks for posting that video! Watching now.

I told you this rabbit hole goes deep...look who the VATICAN honors in the middle of St. Peter's Square! Ba'al worship goes all the way to the top!

[link to saintpetersbasilica.org]

You said the same thing about the shuttle not making it back to Earth.

Discussing a theory is all well and good but presenting it as disputable fact only undermines your position.

That should be "indisputable".

So, according to this video, our Statue of Liberty (Idol of Rhodes) is prophecied to come down as well!

You would think America's leaders at that time would have known about these prophecies and steered clear of these idols...but OH NO...we have surrounded ourselves with them! This cannot end well!

News reports say the Washington Monument only has a cracked top, but it is NOT leaning. Those leaning pics are false.

[link to news.yahoo.com]

If you will go back and read, the Shuttle thread was posted to watch and see. No "indisputable facts" were presented outside of speculative videos of peoples comments/visions and Hollywood movie depictions. Get your facts straight please.

That link does NOT state that the monument is not leaning. It only mentions the cracks at the top. Btw, what would cause cracks at the TOP of the monument from an earthquake? Doesn't it make more sense that the cracks would be at the base? Something about that doesn't seem right to me but I'm no engineer.

They probably hired the same engineers for that assessment on the Monument that determined the WTC towers were structurally sound!

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That is exactly my point, there are no indisputable facts but you are presenting the theory as though there is no room for anything else to happen. "Get back to me when this thing falls over". You did the same thing in the shuttle thread, anyone expressing doubt was met with the same arrogance.

I'll stand corrected if it is found to be leaning. But, that was brought up earlier today and I've read from a couple different sites that it is not leaning. Of course it wouldn't surprise me one bit if the news turns out to be incorrect, gotta love main stream media lol.

Were the cracks from today's earthquake or not I have no idea.

It's not arrogance, it is knowledge that God's Word says what it means and it says these idols will not be allowed to stand. This thread is about watching for the fall.

Did you look at any of the links I posted or are you just wanting to debate for the sake of argument? The information I presented is pretty straight forward, I think. Believe it or don't, I'm just the messenger!

Peace.

the top has an aluminum pyramid cap and has a bible verse on it... and tells about when it was finished and who finished it, someone do ressearch

Bless you. I've been waiting for someone else to say it. Baal, Molech and the Babylonian god of chance (the name escapes me) are the real gods of the leaders (corporate, government, some religious, media, etc.).

Yes ma'am the mighty hand of the Lord is showing itself

Blessings

You may not intend to sound arrogant but it comes across that way. It is an opinion, not 'knowledge'.

And no btw, I don't believe it.

Interesting. You just made a connection for me....

Bush: Bush or shrub, dweller in bushes
Cheney: Oak wood; oak grove

Here are a few more verses that discuss the fate of these "groves"/obelisks... Again~ NOT LOOKING GOOD!

Exodus 34:13
13But ye shall destroy their altars, break their images, and cut down their groves:

Deuteronomy 7:5
5But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire.

Judges 3:7
7And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and forgat the LORD their God, and served Baalim and the groves.

1 Kings 14:15
15For the LORD shall smite Israel, as a reed is shaken in the water, and he shall root up Israel out of this good land, which he gave to their fathers, and shall scatter them beyond the river, because they have made their groves, provoking the LORD to anger.

2 Kings 17:16
16And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal.

2 Kings 23:14
14And he brake in pieces the images, and cut down the groves, and filled their places with the bones of men.

2 Chronicles 24:18
18And they left the house of the LORD God of their fathers, and served groves and idols: and wrath came upon Judah and Jerusalem for this their trespass.

Micah 5:14
14And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee: so will I destroy thy cities.

The Bohemian Grove isn't masonic.

At least get your societies right. The Obelisk(s) are odes to Masonic ritual because Masons at the truest levels still hold on to the idea that Marduk is the true ruler of Earth. Thi is because during the end of his rule he was banished, and eventually dethroned, which was wrong in his eyes and the eyes of his believers. They carried on worshipping the Bull, as it represented the Age of Taurus, and the peak of the cult center worshipping Babylonian empire.

To this day it is still glorified and worshipped.

Marduk was to rule for a period of time, and his period of time is over, and now we are far into a different Age. The Age of Pisces, which is the age of the Messanger and ruler of his age. Jesus.

Jesus and the line of Abraham is soon going to lose his place in present day society, as the Age of Aquarius comes into play. This will be a return to the Golden Age, when man was closer to God, but yet,just as far away. But he was closer to our origins at the very least.

Bohemian Grove is something altogether different than.

Moloch(BG) isn't Baal though names as generic as Baal can be easily confused because they are applied in various ways across a variety of text from different cultures. Some see Baal as a minor deity, some see him as a major deity in terms of cult center worship and flock base.

You...Christians....Jews, and Muslims inadvertently worship El-Enlil-Yahweh(there are numerous names given to this entity which are used, and switched based on culture, age, timeframe, and situational factors) when you use the modern Abrahamic books as your basis of reality. Those books are definitely influenced by the character of Enlil.

Enki is our creator.

Enlil is our ruler.

They were brothers, their father was called Anu. Anu was considered highest in their heirarchy and close to divine, but not a god. That part is clearly misunderstood. They portrayed themselves as gods or semi divine for the benefits it brought them. They scwabbled over who gets to benefit the most for many, many years across a ridiculous number of generations. If those mesopotamian stories are to be believed...and why wouldn't they. They were first to write genesis after all.....the unedited version.

According to very early mesopotamian scripture.

Most of you seem dangerously naive.

And that is your opinion. You are welcome to start a thread based on that just as I have done.

It's all good! :)

the tip of the washington monument is an 8" aluminum cap(pyramid) on the east side of the peak or face inscribed " Praise be to God" in Latin laus deo, upon greeting the sun rising everyday--other words the sun's rays hits this everymorning and praising god.

[link to www.just4kidsmagazine.com]

I would be most interested to know if they used a lower case "g" in that etching "Praise be to (g)od".

Maybe I'm missing something here but seems a little contradictory to erect a powerful pagan idol in your nation's capital with all the symbolism that it packs and then etch a phrase on the top where no one can see it giving "praise to god". That would be like building a giant swastica and carving the phrase "long live the Jews" in small print in an obscure corner where it's not visible. Anyone else see the contradiction here?

p.s the Obelisk is an "mock up" of the ben-ben stone ascending to "heaven".

Some say the ben-ben, the actual ben-ben is housed inside the Kah'bah in Mecca.

It is a far more holy and sacred image than the horrific crucifix you poor mislead sheep all feverishly worship.

It was was brought Joseph AND Jesus to Egypt, when they went to study in Heliopolis. They went because Heliopolis was Egypts cult center.

The twelve stones of the tribes of Israel is an intentional distortion.

Those twelve stones are representations of something much older than the Israelites.

It is not hard to guess, though they might need to add a 13th stone for some to be happy with my riddle.

All I can say to anyone is "Ask God" to give you the Truth. Ask with an honest heart and He will answer.

"DO NOT BE DECEIVED" are the most important words anyone could ever hear in their entire lives.

the 8" cap is the ben-ben for the Obelisk.

But the Obelisk design itself....is meant to represent the ascent.

It is a very sacred, and ancient representation of man's spiritual connections with the celestial most definitely.

He has already given me enough to know to ignore the liars and snakes which crawl over this forum perpetrating a facade of "Christianity". Twisting every aspect of our existence into their own private version of Apocalypse.

My eyes are wide open.

Well, you are welcome to believe the deceiver if you like but any "dangerous naivety" is on you for doing so. The "new age" religions are not different than these idols depicted in the links I posted. All are an abomination to Yahweh God...our TRUE creator. But believe what you like and I'll do the same. Between us, only one will be right in the end.

My best advice to you is to not hold your belief as truth over the Truth of Jesus Christ. He and His believers alone will be left standing in the end! "Choose you this day whom you will serve...As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord!" (Joshua 24:15) Nothing "naive" about it, only Truth!