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There is Something Much Better Than Bleach for Disinfecting Stored Emergency Water

 
Little Green Chicken
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There is Something Much Better Than Bleach for Disinfecting Stored Emergency Water
If you have done any research regarding water storage, you know that a lot of people recommend using Clorox Bleach. But did you know that it loses potency after only 6 months? So if you have a bleach supply, it will be nothing but water and salt in half a year....and that won't kill the harmful organisms, spores, and bacteria in water.

By using pool shock, you have a long term solution. Here's a link to an article I found while I was looking for ways to make a well bucket.

[link to www.pazumpa.com]

By the way....if anybody knows of a way to actually make well buckets for $10 please let me know. I've been watching lots of videos by people to claim this yet I cannot price them for less than around $35 or $40. Just the valve alone is usually around $20.

Thanks!
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kitty thanks for the link
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Thanks i did not know thishf
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If you have done any research regarding water storage, you know that a lot of people recommend using Clorox Bleach. But did you know that it loses potency after only 6 months? So if you have a bleach supply, it will be nothing but water and salt in half a year....and that won't kill the harmful organisms, spores, and bacteria in water.

By using pool shock, you have a long term solution. Here's a link to an article I found while I was looking for ways to make a well bucket.

[link to www.pazumpa.com]

By the way....if anybody knows of a way to actually make well buckets for $10 please let me know. I've been watching lots of videos by people to claim this yet I cannot price them for less than around $35 or $40. Just the valve alone is usually around $20.

Thanks!
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I also purchased one of Dr. Clayton Nolte's multiple vortex units to re-structure the water and it needs no filters, no electricity, and no maintenance.
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Pool shock is chlorine, and not much different than chlorine bleach.
Iodine is a better alternative for purifying water, and as a bonus, it protects you from radiation poisoning, too.
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Pool shock is chlorine, and not much different than chlorine bleach.
Iodine is a better alternative for purifying water, and as a bonus, it protects you from radiation poisoning, too.
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precisely why when fukushima happened, some one/some department bought it all and kept it away from the masses

for some time
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You can make your own bleach with salt water and electricity, they sell kits for this or you can make your own.
You can sterilize all the water you want with heat from a fire.
You can make your own well bucket with a pipe with a leather flap for a flap valve.
You can collect water from rain or snow.
Why do it all this the expensive or hard way?
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If you have done any research regarding water storage, you know that a lot of people recommend using Clorox Bleach. But did you know that it loses potency after only 6 months? So if you have a bleach supply, it will be nothing but water and salt in half a year....and that won't kill the harmful organisms, spores, and bacteria in water.

By using pool shock, you have a long term solution. Here's a link to an article I found while I was looking for ways to make a well bucket.

[link to www.pazumpa.com]

By the way....if anybody knows of a way to actually make well buckets for $10 please let me know. I've been watching lots of videos by people to claim this yet I cannot price them for less than around $35 or $40. Just the valve alone is usually around $20.

Thanks!
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Adya Clarity! Research it on youtube
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Yes, pool shock is the way to go.

Don't waste your iodine. You might need it for more important uses.

Don't waste your firewood to disinfect your water, either. Use the shick. It's cheap and abundant, NOW. So get some.

You don't need to boil your water unless you need to distill it. If you do need to distill it, you've got big problems anyway.
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I will definately refill my water containers every 6 months! thanks OP!tounge
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If you have done any research regarding water storage, you know that a lot of people recommend using Clorox Bleach. But did you know that it loses potency after only 6 months? So if you have a bleach supply, it will be nothing but water and salt in half a year....and that won't kill the harmful organisms, spores, and bacteria in water.

By using pool shock, you have a long term solution. Here's a link to an article I found while I was looking for ways to make a well bucket.

[link to www.pazumpa.com]

By the way....if anybody knows of a way to actually make well buckets for $10 please let me know. I've been watching lots of videos by people to claim this yet I cannot price them for less than around $35 or $40. Just the valve alone is usually around $20.

Thanks!
 Quoting: Little Green Chicken


I've heard of a well bucket made with a length of pvc pipe with a rubber toilet flapper valve and seat attached to the bottom. As the bucket hits the water, the flap opens and the bucket sinks into the water, filling up. Then you pull up, the flap closes and you have a full bucket of water. I'm not sure how the flapper and seat are connected to the pipe, but it should be something you can figure out. Hope that helps...
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5 stars and thanks for the information.
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Yes, pool shock is the way to go.

Don't waste your iodine. You might need it for more important uses.

Don't waste your firewood to disinfect your water, either. Use the shick. It's cheap and abundant, NOW. So get some.

You don't need to boil your water unless you need to distill it. If you do need to distill it, you've got big problems anyway.
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I'm allergic to contrast iodine....anyone with medical knowledge here-I can't find any information on whether I can use iodine in this case or if I can ever take iodide pills...
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Just drink the blood of dead christians.
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solar disinfection/distillation is the best way, period.
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If you have done any research regarding water storage, you know that a lot of people recommend using Clorox Bleach. But did you know that it loses potency after only 6 months? So if you have a bleach supply, it will be nothing but water and salt in half a year....and that won't kill the harmful organisms, spores, and bacteria in water.

By using pool shock, you have a long term solution. Here's a link to an article I found while I was looking for ways to make a well bucket.

[link to www.pazumpa.com]

By the way....if anybody knows of a way to actually make well buckets for $10 please let me know. I've been watching lots of videos by people to claim this yet I cannot price them for less than around $35 or $40. Just the valve alone is usually around $20.

Thanks!
 Quoting: Little Green Chicken


Wouldn't it be just as easy to use the chlorox right before you use the water?....maybe 24 hours ahead of time to allow the stuff to evaporate out after killing any organisms? Thats what I had figured on doing.
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Pool shock is chlorine, and not much different than chlorine bleach.
Iodine is a better alternative for purifying water, and as a bonus, it protects you from radiation poisoning, too.
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Yes, shock is a type of chlorine but the composition is not identical. It will not break down at the quick rate that bleach will which makes it useful for this purpose. If you read the link he does mention something about protection from radiation.
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Just drink the blood of dead christians.
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But you'd have to waste your food keeping them alive. If the Christian has been dead for more than a few minutes, the blood will be spoiled.
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If you have done any research regarding water storage, you know that a lot of people recommend using Clorox Bleach. But did you know that it loses potency after only 6 months? So if you have a bleach supply, it will be nothing but water and salt in half a year....and that won't kill the harmful organisms, spores, and bacteria in water.

By using pool shock, you have a long term solution. Here's a link to an article I found while I was looking for ways to make a well bucket.

[link to www.pazumpa.com]

By the way....if anybody knows of a way to actually make well buckets for $10 please let me know. I've been watching lots of videos by people to claim this yet I cannot price them for less than around $35 or $40. Just the valve alone is usually around $20.

Thanks!
 Quoting: Little Green Chicken


Wouldn't it be just as easy to use the chlorox right before you use the water?....maybe 24 hours ahead of time to allow the stuff to evaporate out after killing any organisms? Thats what I had figured on doing.
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Well, I'm guessing that would be fine but the question is that the effectiveness of clorox dissipates at six months so keeping it for storage might be useless. In a scenario like this you won't be running to the store for bleach, you need to rely on what you have.
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look up MMS2 - I am a holistic nutritionist and have taken pool shock internally. it is Calcium Hypoclorite and NO it is not chlorine - it is being used all over for Cancer etc
look up MMS and MMS2






really really
it is cheap and 1 lb can clean up to 10,000 gallons of water


buy some
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look up MMS2 - I am a holistic nutritionist and have taken pool shock internally. it is Calcium Hypoclorite and NO it is not chlorine - it is being used all over for Cancer etc
look up MMS and MMS2



[link to www.sakshin.nl]




really really
it is cheap and 1 lb can clean up to 10,000 gallons of water


buy some
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look up MMS2 - I am a holistic nutritionist and have taken pool shock internally. it is Calcium Hypoclorite and NO it is not chlorine - it is being used all over for Cancer etc
look up MMS and MMS2



[link to www.sakshin.nl]




really really
it is cheap and 1 lb can clean up to 10,000 gallons of water


buy some
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look up MMS2 - I am a holistic nutritionist and have taken pool shock internally. it is Calcium Hypoclorite and NO it is not chlorine - it is being used all over for Cancer etc
look up MMS and MMS2



[link to www.sakshin.nl]




really really
it is cheap and 1 lb can clean up to 10,000 gallons of water


buy some
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ooopps link = [link to www.sakshin.nl]
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OK, so what is MMS2? What chemical turns to hypochlorous acid in the body? Hold on to your hat. Itís a special type of swimming óĖ pool óĖ chlorine. Well, thatís what everybody calls it Ė swimming pool chlorine. BUT it is really not chlorine. Itís a special agent that is used to ďshockĒ the pool, called CALCIUM HYPOCHLORITE.

People are used to being told that you shock a pool with chlorine, but thatís not really the scientific facts. Itís easy to explain this way. The scientific facts are that no free chlorine is added to the pool. The pool is in fact shocked with hypochlorous acid. A pouch of 78% calcium hypochlorite (about one pound) costs less than $5 dollars in the US. You can buy it at any swimming pool supply store, but not just any pool chlorine. It has to be calcium hypochlorite.

Thatís right, when it is put into pool water it instantly changes into hypochlorous acid. Itís not the same as chlorine in water. Not at all. Other chemicals change into chlorine, but not calcium hypochlorite. It changes into HOCl (thatís the chemical formula for hypochlorous acid). It is a combination of hydrogen, oxygen, and chlorine. Like table salt it also has chlorine in it, but it reacts far differently than chlorine. MMS1 and MMS2 are made from two of the cheapest mineral substances that we have. MMS1 will cure malaria, the worst disease of mankind, in about 10 hours and for less than 5 cents. MMS2 is similar in cost if not cheaper.

My friend Bill Boynton, who helped me with the chemistry of MMS1 also suggested pool chlorine to me back in 2003. I wondered why the pool chlorine might be beneficial. He and I were using it before we knew what it was. So a bit of simple research turned up the fact that it was hypochlorous acid. Doctors in medical school learn all about hypochlorous acid in their schooling because it is a critical component produced and used by the immune system.

So you see it wasnít because I was all that smart; it was just that I was looking for opportunities without worrying if I was fitting into a medical groove or not.

Now, letís look at how we used it. Keep in mind that anything I say here I do not suggest that you go and do. Anything that you do is strictly on your own. I cannot suggest medical things to you. This is simply what we did. Also the ďweĒ that I talk about here is not the same as my friend Bill that I mention above. I do not mention names here to protect the innocent and to keep my friends out of harmís way. Later when I write my book for posterity I will name all those who helped me and worked with me, however for now, I feel it is best that I donít.

First, a friend in Canada mentioned in an email that he had a friend who had prostate cancer. I said why not try hypochlorite. He said he would ask his friend and to make a long story short I sent him an envelope of 50 size zero gel capsules stuffed with calcium hypochlorite from a local pool store. (The supply in pool stores is anywhere from 45% calcium hypochlorite to 85%. Most is around 75%. I have used it all from 45% to 55% to 65% to 75% to 80%.

There are always other chemicals in the mixture. The other chemicals are all designed for use in pools so they are not poisonous and most of them are used in foods or processing foods. You only take a tiny bit of the white powder in a size zero capsule and thus you never get more than the recommended daily dose of any of these chemicals. Anyway he took the 50 capsules at about 4 a day and called me up and said that he felt much better but did I have some more as he still wasnít well. So I sent him 50 more and he finally got back to me saying his prostate cancer was all gone.
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Good info here...
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drop a few silver eagles into a 55 gallon drum. That will keep it clean and drinkable. Get some 1/2 ounce .9999 silver coins from Australia to use with gallon jugs, etc.
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A few drops of Nutri biotic , grapefruit seed extract, works great too
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A few drops of Nutri biotic , grapefruit seed extract, works great too
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If you have done any research regarding water storage, you know that a lot of people recommend using Clorox Bleach. But did you know that it loses potency after only 6 months? So if you have a bleach supply, it will be nothing but water and salt in half a year....and that won't kill the harmful organisms, spores, and bacteria in water.

By using pool shock, you have a long term solution. Here's a link to an article I found while I was looking for ways to make a well bucket.

[link to www.pazumpa.com]

By the way....if anybody knows of a way to actually make well buckets for $10 please let me know. I've been watching lots of videos by people to claim this yet I cannot price them for less than around $35 or $40. Just the valve alone is usually around $20.

Thanks!
 Quoting: Little Green Chicken


guess I'm way ahead of the pack..I have 2 large containers of pool shock stored, just for that purpose. (we don't have a pool!)
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Nice thread, Little Green Chicken. Many interesting contributions to it too! Thanks, everyone. hf





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