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I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question

 
Logos666
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And sorry,

I do not command Russian or even the Cyrillic alphabet.

If you are my deceased father, please use one of the languages use remember me commanding - and that does exclude Estonian.
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Havn't quite got it yet have you people.
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[link to www.google.de]
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No it has not been “amply refuted” above, all what you did was tricking people into talking psychology and you kept using “educated” words to keep people dizzy, so someone must make that simply away from the long expressions.

Also the only points you argued was his “spelling mistakes” and “Christianity” all your other posts were waffle to make people confused using idioms and pompous attitude.

I only replied to the most urgent points not the useless shit you typed above.
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Also the matter of whether Christ was mentioned by insider as a person is not resolved,

Names are not exclusive to persons or microcosmic consciousnesses, no; macrocosmic beings have names and sigils at that that they are called by,

So he could have meant the macrocosmic consciousness of the real "Christ".
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No it has not been “amply refuted” above
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Then you have a reading impediment or a lack of logical and philosophical acumen.

__________

as I have stated elsewhere:

I have high respect for uneducated people (any people) if they know the limits of their competence.

Such are often people of good character with qualities that would make me unworthy to wash their feet.
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Please


don't write faster than you can think


or

can test the implications of what you say
for the entirety of what you or Insider have said.


This entirety has to be consistent


or else


any intelligent child would rightly sense


there's something wrong with it.


Do not proliferate the false.


Just know the false as the false, that is enough.


___________________________________________________


"And now for something completely different"






Logos666
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You might think this doesn't belong in here

but

quite apart from the slawic influence lately

look again



:))
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Resorting to insults is childish and immature,

What I said is correct in most occult circles and as I said the replies to your posts came from a certain point of view and certain references; I answered them from another angle,

If you can't follow up or doesn't know what I am talking about do some research and stop resorting to childish behavior.

Macrocosmic forces do not have a similar consciousnesses as we do, however many thought-forms are attached to it,

Some may call this personalization but aside from its magical image I don’t think a macrocosmic force is a person,

Also that leaves us still not in agreement about whether Christ is a macrocosmic force or not.

If you think you are knowledgeable from your POV then first you need to see your posts from the point of view of another.

Otherwise you will never think outside the box and will be unnecessarily confused.
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Are you going to be any shame or guilt when children are starving to death because the 13 families are still keeping what THEY know about Planet X secret?

Have you located all 10,000 Christed beings yet? The ones who are here to deal with the likes of you, the people who will NO LONGER be incarnating on earth after this lifetime?
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Are you going to be any shame or guilt when children are starving to death because the 13 families ...
Have you located all 10,000 Christed beings yet? The ones who are here to deal with the likes of you
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I trust you are talking to someone else, as I was among the ones who exposed some inconsistencies in "Insider"'s words.

Remember he would not agree with your notion that there has been more than 1 person to have been "anointed" to express the power of the Christos.


Resorting to insults is childish and immature,
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What insults ? From me ? You must have misunderstood a few things. For something to be an insult, it must be false first, secondly not a joke or a parody of what others here are doing,...

Forgive me that I didn't read beyond this line.

But your anger shows I must have hit a truth you don't want to see - because it isn't justified.


you merely create false forced reality and tell people to go back to sleep and not seek the truth.[what ?
An intelligent reader would wonder who he is talking about ?]

...
no need to pursue the other futile comments..
...
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all what you did was tricking people
...
using educated words to keep people dizzy...
all your other posts were waffle to make people confused using idioms and pompous attitude.
...the useless shit you typed
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Logos666
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Once again, in short (for the obtuse - just in case there is any left):

Resorting to insults is childish and immature
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...the useless shit you typed
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Logos666
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If those

"number 20" s

would perhaps consider taking some deep breaths, rereading

and most importantly

not posting faster than they can think

please !

Don't you think it's time to stop this inane repetition ?

There are plenty of indications that "Insider" is not really who he said he is.

But if your life will fall apart otherwise, go ahead and believe in him, and feel free to consider me whatever you like.

Good night.
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I did not insult you but merely the waffle you typed and there is a great difference between insulting someone and what they write,

There is a difference between insulting someone and insulting his posts only to express disagreement.

secondly if you don't understand my "repetition" do some research and go find what it means, these are basic things to understand and will give you a more broad view of what insider wrote and why he wrote it.
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also I would like to add that you only pointed out smartly the first part about insults but you conveniently ignored the more important part about macrocosmic forces, does that mean you have no idea what they are?
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It will be the Christ consciousness and not one human being for all to follow. Many have been "anointed".
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EBI, you have been found contradicting yourself, using double standards, demonstrating reading impediment and impulsiveness

so much

that I have stopped reading your posts

beyond noticing they are there

because I no longer believe you are being honest.

Your lucid argumentation in some parts is not compatible with the stupidity necessary to for other parts

hence I have to assume you are acting stupid which is a form of a lie. Otherwise it must be a systematic personality disorder.

Reason cannot argue with either case.

Many have been "anointed".
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So you agree with me in disagreeing with "Insider".

______________________________


The following is what I initially wrote and haven't seen refuted or even properly read by those twisters of my words:

For the obtuse in short:

Typos are no indicators for a lack of education, but this is:


Those would have only been typos, not examples of a systematic ignorance of correct spelling.
 Quoting: Logos666 659902


this thread has either been hacked or altered by an Admin,

i will post the PDF containing most of the questions and the answers Insider gave.

[link to www.4shared.com]



a timely discovery ., thank you




An observation regarding his spelling errors. Asks an astute observer (page 16/17 in the script):


Q:
"And why do you misspell simple words such as 'malicious' ? I find that very intersting"

A:
"English is not my native language"



Given the many irrelevant questions he did not answer, he seems to feel the need to maintain the myth of his being an extremely educated person (as a bloodline-member would expeted to be).

Note, however, that the kind of misspelling he keeps repeating is

untypical of non-natives of the English language

and

highly typical of English native speakers.

For instance writing

"to" when it should be "too"

"their" when it should be "there"

and so on. This is indicative of a person who has primarily internalized English acustically and not visually and accompanied by reading - as non-natives would naturally study it.

For non-natives, these words stick out as very different from each other because they learn them accompanied with meaning and their scriptural appearance in conjunction with their phonetic value, and not years and years later to it.

I myself - as non-native to English - felt I could immediately pick out that the author must indeed be a native speaker of English - in contradiction to what he says.

Moreover, regardless of whether he is native to English or not, his spelling errors would hardly be so habitually committed by one as highly trained as a bloodline-member would be.

______________

Moreover, it seems his critique of religion, as much as it also says some truths, is a demonstration of a very superficial and uneducated approach to religion. He is unaware, for instance, that being christian does not imply the veneration of a human (even if you worship Jesus), nor does it even require viewing the historical person of Jesus as the object of veneration.

Glorious counter-example:

I highly recommend these three books by the contemporary catholic mystic Bernadette Roberts:

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

This stuff is even better than Meister Eckhart (and that means a lot).

Roberts openly admits that she was always intimately devoted to the Christ while having not too much to do with Jesus, and this is nothing revolutionary even within catholicism.

So why does "Insider" not know such basics and suggests a type of christianity exclusively prevalent in fundamentalist protestant USA ?

Then he goes on to suggest that the real Christ was another person in history, not Jesus, thus demonstrating his ignorance that "Christ" is not even considered a historical person in orthodox christianity, but a time transcending principle. No mystical christian with any profundity would assume that "Christ" would still mean "Jesus" other that the latter being a endearing reminder for the otherwise unimaginable "Christ".

Regarding a more esoteric, gnostic interpretation of what the "Christos" means regarding each of us, namely the connection to the light of our higher being beyond the psyche and the web of interconnection in light's regions,

and regarding a more detailed version of whatever truth "Insider" was speaking esoterically, I would like to recommend a pretty unknown master of the modern gnosis Ralph DeBit "Vitvan" who died in 1964, I believe:

[link to www.sno.org]

Sources such as this one and a few others would, BTW, be completely sufficient to create an air of superior knowledge if one were to play an impostor in a thread like this one and would expect no readers with much of an education or knowledge.

Note also that "Insider" simply assumes that to gain recognition must be any celebrity's motivation to be one, such as the Dalai Lama or Mahatma Gandhi. I find that to be a highly idiotic assumption, and one that often inverts and confuses cause and effect,

regardless of all the critical remarks that must be made regarding these two persons (and I particularly know a thing or two about the Tibetan scence after having interacted with high lamas for years), but I certainly do not believe that gaining recognition for himself is the Dalai Lama's motivation at all.

____________

Generally I do not understand why "Insider" suggests that the core truth of religions is so deeply buried in them among all the garbage that we can hardly find it.

I think a decade or two of comparative study, yoga and meditation will bring anyone with any intelligence left quickly to the core of all that without fail.

It is true, however, that the childlike intuition of the simplicity of it will be regularly obscured by dogmatic religions rather than revealed. And that only through profound contemplative, practical and logical (rather than literalistic, concept-attached) study will one usually find one's way back out of dogma to that childlike clarity of what it's all about -

but then in a more humorous and mature way. Religions can then be humorously and lovingly appreciated and criticized rather than seen as deliberate deception the way "Insider" puts it.

As the example of Bernadette Robert shows, this, however, can even be achieved by never being exposed to anything else than one religion (catholicism in her case), by simply practicing its profound aspect rather than attaching to its superficial dogma.

Had "Insider" pointed out this simple truth, he would have been more convincing to me, but he probably wouldn't have caught anyone's attention since it is almost a truism.

___________

So folks: relax and forget about any riddles regarding the truth or supposed historical frauds or supposed secrets of bloodlines or supposed wrongness of religion. It is out in the open, with or without religion.

Read Bernadette Roberts or Meister Eckhart or Eckhart Tolle or Ramana Maharshi or Ajahn Chah and the Sermon on the Mount and the Gospel of Thomas or Douglas Harding ... it almost doesn't matter.

But (and here I concur with Insider) practice it yourself.

And regard Insiders and Outsiders humorously and with kindness.
 Quoting: Logos666 658570



So folks: relax and forget about any riddles regarding the truth or supposed historical frauds or supposed secrets of bloodlines or supposed wrongness of religion. It is out in the open, with or without religion.

Read Bernadette Roberts or Meister Eckhart or Eckhart Tolle or Ramana Maharshi or Ajahn Chah and the Sermon on the Mount and the Gospel of Thomas or Douglas Harding ... it almost doesn't matter.


For instance, consider the biography depicted in this video

Thread: REINHARDT ...post your questions for him here. (Page 194)

If someone like "Insider" denigrates this man as a fake or considers his message as diluted or mixed with garbage in any way or as being informed and installed by bloodlines

then he can hardly be taken seriously.

If someone like "Insider" concedes that this man is an example of what "Insider" concedes possible: the Divine expressing itself in a human being far beyond the grasps of "bloodline" families, then why waste time with the cryptic allusions by people from the bloodlines ?

In either case, it should be clear how to decide wisely.
 Quoting: Logos666 658570



All this is so obvious I didn't ever think someone would want to create opposition to this out of thin air.

I guess we all have our sports.
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And please do not repeat these lame arguments regarding the person.

"To be" is far more inclusive than a statement of identity.

To say "And the president is Obama" or "Henry is sick" is shorthand and such true, and in no way it implies an complete identity between Obama and the position of presidency or between Henry and the illness.

Not understanding this would likely be considered stupidity by those opposing me. And that means they would have passed right judgment upon their own criticism of the following true statement:

Then he goes on to suggest that the real Christ was another [one and only in his view] person in history, not Jesus
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Re "Christ"

being christian does not imply the veneration of a human (even if you worship Jesus), nor does it even require viewing the historical person of Jesus as the object of veneration.

Glorious counter-example:

I highly recommend these three books by the contemporary catholic mystic Bernadette Roberts:

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

[link to www.amazon.com]

This stuff is even better than Meister Eckhart (and that means a lot).

Roberts openly admits that she was always intimately devoted to the Christ while having not too much to do with Jesus, and this is nothing revolutionary even within catholicism.
 Quoting: Logos666 663358


These three books, esepcially the third, BTW, give highly lucid explanations, based on direct experience, of what "the son", and for that matter the whole issue with the "trinity" means.

You wouldn't expect what she says "the son" means if you hold stale stereotypes from hearsay or the chapel. It hasn't got much to do with a belief system, it's more a "spiritual physics" of sorts, absolutely mind blowing.

Would you have thought that the body is eternal ?

:))

Thought cannot fathom that. I cannot even know what "the body" is.
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Thought cannot fathom that. It cannot even know what "the body" is.
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Thought cannot fathom that. It cannot even know what "the body" is.
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And this is another point "Insider" hasn't understood when he actually has the nerve to call the earth a prison and worse.

The prison is not nature, earth, the body or anything in true "creation".

Our deluded minds dealing unwisely with the sensual machine make a prison out of it.

We do not see the body, the absolutely sacred earth and nature as it really is.

This sensual world does not exist outside our sensual machinery. "The earth", "The Body", "Life" cannot be seen with the senses or with thought, and only the latter are the prison, not the former.



When "Insider" confused this, it was another instance that made it obvious that he is an outsider.





Whereas I have reason to believe that Yeshua the Nazorean was an Insider even though I am not a member of any church institution or christian belief system.

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Interesting for beginners, what this lady says about Yeshua the Christ's regard for nature:

[link to www.globalonenessproject.org]

Compare this with Saint Francesco d'Assisi's vision of nature, very similar.

Then read "Insider" again.

The truth in everyone will immediately heart-recognize where the truth was spoken.


Don't let your paranoid thoughts get the better of you.

Thought cannot know reality.
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"To be" is far more inclusive than a statement of identity.


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Finally

441472

a Wittgensteinian among us.

It's all yours now.

Rip, shred, lacerate - myself and the rest.


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Why... Thank you

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sincerily,
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Wow, I once a while come back to this thread to see what's up and now I see it has been hijacked by a patronizing self acclaimed prophet like logos666 who is trying to sell his false gods to us or something?

Why are you trying to shove your opinion down other's throats? Even by insulting and downtalking them? It is proof you are far away from the truth.

The way you type and post shows you have some form of psychological problems, obsessive.

Start your own thread. You did not refute one single thing, you actually empowered it with your manic disinfo. Jealousy and envy are signs of the bad, not the good.





GLP