I am a member of an Elite Family who you despise...ask me a question

yeah, this is obvious... but i wonder why do i always forget about it................

anyway, i'm thankful for reminding me those truths.

p. s. i'd like to test him too. :)

Logos666, all the things you accused the insider of being or doing, which supposedly would devalue him and his message, you do exactly the same.

spelling errors which shouldnt occur if you werent fake, pretending you know it all (testing him? who the hell are you to test anyone, all-knowing-one?), etc.

then you dare to post links to fraudulant 'mystics'....your idols who are in no way better or more knowing than anyone, except in their own little world idolized by folks like you who want to worship the truth through the worship of other humans.

and you missed that insider never said 'jesus christ', he said 'jesus of nazareth' and excluded him of being the christ, or christianity being with christ. think about why he did that, oh wise one. he said christ was another being, not another person like you pretend he said...so again, your twisting of his words to rewrite what he said didnt work for the more observant ;)

he also didnt say recognition is the only reason the celebs get where they do like the lama, etc. he said also they are under control....on many levels, so also mentally and they dont even know they are being used or doing it. you 'forgot' that part.

you fail with your foxnews way of trying to discredit someone.

This just portrays insufficient attention or education.

1.

I did not claim to be of a high bloodline with an inside scoop on everything, but he did.

2.

"Insider"'s spelling errors were habitual and repetitious and indicative of being a native speaker.

Mine were mere typos based solely on the lack of importance of this medium and my role in it (as opposed to his - if he was who he said he was).

3.

I exemplarily corrected some of my errors myself to point out that I am aware of my own typos. He didn't until corrected by others, showing that he didn't know correct spelling, as typical of many - even academic - English native speakers (remember, his justification was that he was not native - see my first post) due to the dynamics pointed out in my first post.

No matter who he is: so far I can easily detect that his level of education would likely be insufficient to stand a little testing from my side.



Of course you are free to think whatever you like (someone like Bernadette Roberts or Douglas Harding an "idol", ppphhhh). I don't mind.

But I have to make sure that Insider or others with an education see the difference.

Relax and be whoever you are, friend.

And BTW, you'd do good to read what you comment:



He literally said this:

"The Christ (which has a different "real" name but I will use this name here) appeared once, just once, and this was in another era."

a.

if you are even remotely aware of what "person" means, it should be obvious to you that he is talking about a person, no matter whether it is an expression of a "being" (whatever you mean by that) or not.

b.

In no way does this affect the critique I put forth:




So please, before another demonstration of ADS, please reread this post a few times instead reacting impusively:

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Logos666
User ID: 658570
4/17/2009 4:51 AM

Regards

1. with the things you say and the way you say it you come across as someone with a huge ego who is arrogant, narcistic, patronizing. so you dont have to claim to be one of the bloodlines, you act worse than them and you dont even realize it.

2. so your spellign errors can be explained naturally but behind his you need to find a scam. ok, nice hypcritical planet you live in with your assumptions based on...nothing.

3. he didnt correct because he was in a hurry, was just maybe 30 mins a day here typing long texts while responding live (which also explains the spelling errors) and unlike you, he didnt re-read his own posts, which again shows you have an ego. why read your own posts? right ;)

and in your closing statement you again patronized me, so there is yet another proof.

so he never said it was another person. case closed. you used foxnews tactics to discredit and if you were man enough, you would admit to it instead of playing word games and trying to promote your idols ;)

Ure he did, as pointed out above because implicit in what he said is that he is talking about a person, and that is clear to anyone who knows what a "person" is.



This logical fallacy is called "argumentum ad personam", even if it were true.




Again, you did not pay attention to what I said. This time

Logos666
User ID: 659902
4/19/2009 6:55 AM



I already refuted that. Those would have only been typos, not examples of a systematic ignroance of correct spelling.

Someone way "below" his bloodline, say Prince Charles, would never have committed this kind of spelling errors, even under time pressure.

Moreover, he did in fact correct his spelling, under continuing time pressure, after being corrected. Example: search the file for "Mali" (incomplete word).


Now, I had to becoem repetitive because you failed to consider the argument and instead resorted to personal attacks. I usually feel obliged to repeat a return to reason once or twice. From this point on, if you repeat violations of such basic standards for reasonable exchange, which is what I expect, I want to excuse myself right now for now answering further.

Because anyway, I feel that you purposely act as if you were stupid by aggressively ignoring the content of the argumentation. It's hard for me to imagenine that anyone using a computer can actually be that stupid.

For the obtuse in short:

Typos are no indicators for a lack of education, but this is:

Perhaps I should mention that the reason I even considered this "Insider" is that he was mentioned as the supposed original of '535' on this thread:

Thread: 535 The definitive thread.

While I am not convinced of either of the two to be who they say they are, I have to admit that if I had to choose between the two, I would now probably rather bet on 535 than on this one.

What from you?

*lol*

Probably for the best, reading your nonsense, it surely is. People tend to be educated in the wrong things. You Shouldn't view education as highly as you do by the way. It retards your development.




He didn't claim to have the inside sccop on everything. On most material matters he does though. It's about what connections you have. Thankfully for him, he has a few, which excel beyond the books and writings of so-called spiritual masters.

Who do you think teaches them?



English is an official langauge of India.

Insider is human, he is not a divine being, why you expect him to have divine qualities ... i.e not being capable of mistakes, or beyond habit, I don't know. That said you have displayed a tendency to worship humans...especially via their books.



Don't be so verbose and vain for that matter, and you'll make less mistakes.

Using plain English, gets the point across well enough. It's not the most "popular" langauge in the world for no reason you know.



Exemplary, correct that word next time, you'll stop looking like a twat. Better yet, say something like, "In this instance" Instead of trying to demonstrate your intelligence. Which I might add seems way below mine. In fact it seems I wouldn't need to have to use any, other than the basics. I doubt he would struggle to be honest. You'd probably get ignored anyway.

Perhaps he couldn't be arsed to correct his mistakes. I know I can't. And as I recall he was in a rush. Answering so many of your pathetic questions, a few of which deserved answers at all in my opinion..




People tend to like spreading around their ignorance like a virus.
Part of the human construct.

The main reason why your are still here.

What's that saying? Misery loves company.

Does Susan Boyle have a penis?

Logos666, you are by far the most pompous, vain, arrogant 'debunker' so far in this thread.

the arguments you gave are hollow, all just assumptions from your very narrow view clouded by your own ego.

you twisted the words, you tried to pretend he said things which he never did and when you were spanked for it, you tried to ignore it and attack his persona again (which is classic disinfo tactics).

for the 3rd time, you use foxnews tactics. you did not refute 1 single thing, you just tried to pretend you did.

535 had admitted to be a fraud in his very first posts long before he was known as the 535. he opened a thread and had a laugh with people, then admitted he was just palying around.

1 year later orso the insider came and left, then 535 used the exact same method of answering, mimmicking insider in detail, which is how people like you get sucked in. so there you again prove to know nothing if you claim 535 to be the more authentic than insider ;)

hiddenhand from that other forum also copied insider to the t and added his own new age alien mason lucifer stuff into it.

ive been longer here than you obviously to know all these things.

second, no one is saying insider is right, i think hes wrong in 60% of the stuff...from my point of view...which doesnt mean im right, its just how i see things.

however, people like you who just come here to make dumb claims and rewrite what someone said in an arrogant patronizing manner, showing how hypocritical they are in the process are just pathetic and need to be told.

Wait, just let me look in my spiritual book, written for me by my masters.





Why yes, yes she does.

Nobody taught either Ramana or Bernadette Roberts or Eckhart Tolle or Douglas Harding to any degree worth mentioning and relevant to their realizations. We know Ajahn Chah's sources as well, there is no msytery regarding that and they certainly did not come from some mystical source.

This, BTW, is a point well exposed by Jiddu Krishnamurti who in fact had a lot of inluence from higher beings. But regarding his final realization, he claims they are irrelevant, he calls those "incidental".

In the case of Bernadette Roberts, her sources are well known since she never read or heard anything else than catholic sources, and having been a Carmelite nun during her teenage years, that was mainly St. Theresa of Avila, St. John of the Cross and maybe some Meister Eckhart, sources she openly admits and which she claims leave hardly any indicators of how to reach beyond unio mystica to the complete transcendence of even a "self"-in-union-with-the-divine (into "divine only"). The influence she experienced from the spiritual guides in the monastery certainly did not add one jota to the progress to the no-self stage which she experienced only after 20 years after leaving the monastery.

I could go on for ages, but it appears excepting silent onlookers, you are not really interested in the truth of such matters - especially if you (implicitly) claim ignorance and gullibility to be a quality without which you can't find (your idea of) truth.

You haven't even been reading "Insider" well since he openly claims that the Divine can influence such people completely beyond an bloodline's influence.

Of course gullible folks at GLP will know exactly whom the Divine influences exactly in which way.

Yawn.







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Pretty much all that was said as a reaction to what I said was either irrelevant to my points, wrong or both.

Given the level and emotionality of the replies, I will follow Insider's example and disengage from this thread soon

and here only name one more example for the third case mentioned.




"Exemplary" is an adjective, "exemplarily" is the corresponding adverb. "to correct" is a verb, hence...



These replies were loaded with this kind of ad hominem stuff, andother name for this:



No matter how much I doubt that Insider is genuine, I believe he would feel ashamed to be "defended" on this kind of level.

Sorry for busting another idol.

People like "Insider" are always attractive to people who harbor the hope that things are simpler than they are and that empower ego (not Self) as the sole arbiter of truth and allow one to to proliferate adolescent anger anything that is beyond an uneducated ken.

Bye.

What seems to irritate adolescents of reason so much seems to be the unpleasant insight that


- the question of education might actually be relevant to the question of whether a person belongs to an elite bloodline

- that they did not command the education necessary to detect sytematic spelling errors obvious to an educated person

- that the more emotional their reaction, the more obvious their lack of education and good character becomes.

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Having said that, it implies nothing about whether I think education is a good thing or not, what constitutes education from my POV and so forth.

But it has become clear that all such discussions are outside the discussions proper for this forum (apparently only such which involve a lot of name calling or so).

Please blame me now for all your emotions, drive it all into me.

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Nevertheless:

as much as people apparently dislike hearing it

"Insider" 's spelling mistakes (besides too many other things to mention) are sufficient to show what he probably did not want to show:

see Logos666
User ID: 658570
4/17/2009 4:51 AM


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The more I experience peasants' reactions, the more I understand - not sympathize with - cruel elitists idea to simply kill most of them off.

It will be a surprise to people on GLP that the enemy they are trying to destroy is mainly their own egocentric nature (another point I agree on with "Insider"):

You've certainly given him enough attention. Even raising a 4 year old thread from the dead.

Talking about idols. You seem to have quite a few. Shame that they are full of crap as well really.


Don't worry chap, I played around in this game in my early 20's. Reading books from people I don't know and then believing it to be the truth because it was different and out there. Adopting a more serious and unemotional personality, how tiresome and draining, looking down on people instead of engaging them, etc, etc. Emotions are a tool and I use them as such, you seem to want to pretend that they don't influence you. Cut them off completely, and suffer the consequences of such and action. Be my guest.

Unfortunately for a you a few incarnations will teach you that lesson, that said you've messed your subconscious up so much, it will take a long time to overcome the obstacles it will throw in your path. The world around you adapts to your belief system. Nothing anybody can say will change the perception given to you. Same as with the Christian mindset as well.

It's a computer don't get programmed by it. Especially via others who have been programmed by theirs. Insider included.


Right now I'd say you're in dire need of a software update.

i have a question :
why do people with a closed mind go around with an open mouth?

Will you please stop using Moreover it's not a word it has no meaning and it pisses me off.

Last entry before I posted:

4/12/2009 12:11 PM





???

The burden of proof rests with the one who makes a claim.

Never mind.



See above.

Moreover, you are confusing cause and effect.

Besides, apparently you haven't been "out there", or else you'd have noticed a few things when meeting some of these people personally and interacted with them for months.

Non-perfection notwithstanding.



Given such superiority, I shall endeavor to heed your warnings.

ǥuđan bless you for your kindness.

It serves no purpose to even think about.



Elite bloodline, I means seriously, you are arguing about this nonsense.

You may as well be arguing about who is better looking.

Compeltely shallow. Words are the flower of the heart my friend.



And Moses couldn't spell shit.

Either way, it's not important.



I'd say you're the more emotional on here at the moment personally.

Insulting people are hardly ones of good character either kidda. Slagging off people who aren't here to defend themselves seems to be the display of a cowardly character actually.

You keep using the word emotional enough though.. those without it can't detect it. Best to remember that mate.

Emotions where given to you as a kind of safety release for the brain. I don't advise you to block that off too much unless you want a tumour kid, the opposite can be true as well. Though it is true that it's better to feel emotion instead of display them in a vain fashion.

However the opposite is you trying to display that you are not emotional. And quite frankly for me you are displaying a heck of a lot of emotion. Vanity is an emotion you know, and the source of your petty comments and aloofness is hatred, something else which is evident. To me at least.
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Do you understand that no one really talks like this.
Whether this "act" is your delusion of what one with intelligence would display or not isn't important though. You are a human, and as such your behaviour fits within the parameters of human behaviour. You're not as special as you think.

I am all for proper speech, but to abuse the language in such a fashion as to make yourself completely unlikable isn't wise. No one likes aloof people kid, and no one listens to them. So if you value your so-called POV or message enough, alter your character to a more natural one. I'd suggest one that talks "to" people instead of talks "at" or "down" at them.




There you go about emotions again.

Emotions are a tool. I could pretend to be angry and your would think I'm angry.

And no one wants to discuss anything with aloof people, dis and cuss yes, discuss notsomuch.



There's a few things that Insider said. Which told me he was off.

Especially the thing about bodies.

Telling people that they are not the body but a soul.

That was an evil move by him.

Most people believe that by the way, even you.

Of course there is another essense, the real you. Most mistake it for the soul though. The soul is like a container and also at the same time a computer harddrive, but with it's own advanced A.I processor and graphics chip, which reacts automatically to the information fed to it constantly, constantly learning new ways to fuck you over.

You think you're not reacting automatically just like the others. The great thing about it, and it is a creation of beauty, is that there is only one, but yet at the same time it can seem like billions of different ones acting independantly to the "spiritually uneducated" They, you included think it is your "freewill" at work. Man it truely is amazing. This is the God of this Earth. Within you me and everything in this universe. And you are bound to it, because you are unware of what it is, where it is, and how it works through people. You probably shouldn't look down on people. Because guess who you are really harming? it's rewards tend to be exacting.

Granted the many programs you and others perceive may be slightly different from Insiders, massively different from mine, and similar to others on here. But it's a program none the less. The true view of this world will teach you that instantly. Something which Insider does see actually but you don't. So he is above you in that regard. So it's amusing that you merely concentrate on his spelling mistakes and me just his spiritual advancement. To be honest outside of myself and one other he has been way way way ahead of anyone else that's been on here.


Man always worships his own thoughts mind you.

Keep valuing your own intellect mate. That can easily be changed.



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It's a shame that you don't understand why people react the way they do. If you did, you'd be more developed than the rest of the peasants you think you are apart from. People always dislike those just like them.

Questions, like why do people have emotions, why do emotions rule people, what purpose do they serve?. Questions you haven't asked or tried to understand.

What purpose would killing people off serve, it wouldn't change anything? you value life too much. Which is something people feed upon the world over.

Apparently this site doesn't command a certain script.

Either that or I do not command this site which is much more likely.

Yes. Oh and stop analyzing others behaviours, you only point out your own.

Hey 661259,

I suggest you'd cool it already.

Given the avalanche of

projections
pseudo-psycho-analytical as well as
pseudo-philosophical
dilettantism

and plain reading mistakes,

don't expect me to actually plough through your posts

as you apparently plough through mine
(for whatever reason - this would make sense if you found some of your own undigested shadows in there, but I'll leave that to your therapist)

One thing though:
if you expect me to respect your attempts at finding a psychotherapeutical client in me, at least pay better attention to the truth value of your claims.

All the best.

After this new set of flatulent bowel movements









perhaps it would hurt to humbly point out



what I was actually saying




without being really interested








in any psychpathology






from any direction:











uhm














"Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam"



:))






So what ?

And

if you feel hurt by whatever I said

I am the one to blame

and I say this without irony




The great question mark arising in mye mind

perhaps regarding a supposed future, whether along this line:



or this



(don't stop before 4:30-5:00)

or perhaps directly through taking up mye cross or approaching Ramana's "Who Am I" or Ulrich Tolle's surrender to the now under all circumstances

I hope aye can in some way give rise to and face and tolerate to live with the mystery

instead of covering it over with supposed bloodline-know-it-all of any bent or some metaphyscial or anti-metaphysical ideology


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The secret of emotion itself is not emotion

in case aye haven't noticed


The truth of emotion

or anything for that matter

is

that it is a mystery

and will remain one

until

aye give up wanting to do away




with the mystery of it all.


aye aye

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A rebuttal:

Insider’s spell mistakes were done because of him having to post quickly in a short time, and as an AC, he could hardly correct his posts and he had no time to post re-corrections,

Also as he said, he spelled some words in a certain way because they didn’t portray the truth in their original form.

The explanation about religion was clear,

He didn’t speak with Christianity as his reference but out of his own knowledge, so it is unfair to compare what he said with Christianity at all.

Also religion was not made to encourage “child-like intuition” it was made to control and give a fake purpose to life, instead of one searching out the truth they make it a holy purpose for their followers to merely live to worship “GOD”.

Also here you go using the same techniques as religion; you merely create false forced reality and tell people to go back to sleep and not seek the truth.

That covers the main parts written by one logos666, the number is illuminating.

I would also say that insider didn’t promote certain writers, his answers were blunt clear and truthful, and he hardly cared whether you would believe or not, the information he gave were meant for certain people who reached a certain level,

This sums in short the problems that were raised against insider and his comments, no need to pursue the other futile comments..

Also this thread was not raised from the dead by 666, but was attacked by him when another way of reading insiders comments was discovered and posted.

that had been amply refuted point by point further above.

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The 666 indeed has profound meaning: it was the number of Nero, the author of Revelation's quintessence of the enemy of christianity, the essence of which is the logos.

"Logos666" points out that the reality behind an apparent dualism in any such ideology is that the two opposites - insofar as they even exist - are in a dialectical, uroboic interdependence and ultimate unity.

The name points out the dynamic peace, the utter oppsite-lessness, the coincidentia oppositorum (Nikolaus von Kues) of the Ultimate.

Nice try, but windmill fighting. Enjoy instead:



Thanks for giving me the opportunity to share this little joke.