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Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 1101248 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 11:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't be surprised if there is some trouble if / when the authorities try to evict the people from that land. I'm not sure I buy the Daily Mail's assertion that it's been "hijacked by anarchists" though. Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux Unfortunately, with all the programmes such as My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, they have become celebraties, so people may or may not latch on to their "cause". I live in an area with a pretty large population of travellers and former travellers, and public opinion is pretty split. Some support them, some don't, and as I said, a lot of the travellers are decent people, but there are a minority who cause a lot of shit. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1530592 Ireland 09/01/2011 11:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking dirty knackers destroy every piece of land they settle on, leaving councils huge bills for the cleanup. They can basically do what the fuck they want claiming ethnic minority status. You should see the destruction they leave when they #travel' on dirty dirty bastards, Hate them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1530592 Ireland 09/01/2011 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fucking dirty knackers destroy every piece of land they settle on, leaving councils huge bills for the cleanup. They can basically do what the fuck they want claiming ethnic minority status. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1530592 You should see the destruction they leave when they #travel' on dirty dirty bastards, Hate them. oh, and all you bleedin heart do-gooders, you put them up on your land!!! Oh and as for Amnesty and some Catholics priests, looking for justice for them, where are YOU when decent tax payers are getting evicted because they cant keep up with mortgage payments, WHERE are you??? Shower of cunts. |
optimusprimate User ID: 1323580 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 11:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be quite honest I'm on the travelers side here, that site has been there for years, their children go to school like all the others, it's just racism. All that will happen is they find another spot to live on till they get booted again. Quoting: alexisj9 Just to clarify why it's racism, they are mostly Irish travelers. It's not just about skin colour. It think what you are talking about is 'National Origin Discrimination'...tis very common. My gf is Irish and works in the public sector - she gets called all sorts. 'shower of conts' second best phrase I've heard this week! Last Edited by optimusprimate on 09/01/2011 11:49 AM Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? ~Epicurus 33 A.D I am being held down by four greys as i type this ~ Florence 2015 A.D |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1530592 Ireland 09/01/2011 11:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe if the travellers were allowed more places to go to then they wouldn't have to gather in the same place all the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1530713 People should have the right to a nomadic lifestyle just as those who live in houses have the right to remain in the same place. What gives anybody the right to say how people should live as long as they cause no harm to others? yeah, maybe we should all just move where we want, Id like Kensington Palace myself, but I dont see that happening, why should this shower have rights I dont???? Invite them to set up in your area why dont you???? You might fit a few in your back yard, go on, put your money where your mouth is. |
optimusprimate User ID: 1323580 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be quite honest I'm on the travelers side here, that site has been there for years, their children go to school like all the others, it's just racism. All that will happen is they find another spot to live on till they get booted again. Quoting: alexisj9 Just to clarify why it's racism, they are mostly Irish travelers. It's not just about skin colour. It think what you are talking about is 'National Origin Discrimination'...tis very common. My gf is Irish and works in the public sector - she gets called all sorts. 'shower of conts' second best phrase I've heard this week! Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? ~Epicurus 33 A.D I am being held down by four greys as i type this ~ Florence 2015 A.D |
Lime Flavoured Redux User ID: 1101248 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 11:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm sure a lot of them are nice and I'd think they were even nicer if they paid their way like the rest of us. And I'm definitely not right wing, just believe that people should be treated the same, whoever they are. Quoting: Lime Flavoured The argument in this case seems to be that the travellers haven't been treated fairly by the planning process (which wouldn't surprise me, since it's one of the more corrupt parts of local government). Last Edited by Lime Flavoured Redux on 09/01/2011 11:53 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1487614 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be quite honest I'm on the travelers side here, that site has been there for years, their children go to school like all the others, it's just racism. All that will happen is they find another spot to live on till they get booted again. Quoting: alexisj9 Just to clarify why it's racism, they are mostly Irish travelers. It's not just about skin colour. It's not racism, people want them out because they live like scumbags, bypass the law and all common decency. The kids dont even go to fucking school 90% of the time anyway! Its got nothing to do with them being irish or irish decendants. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297880 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Anarchists hijack the travellers' last stand: Fears of bloody confrontation as bailiffs get set to bulldoze Europe's largest illegal campsite Quoting: RPR [link to www.dailymail.co.uk] This makes me soooo angry. How would the do-gooders and trouble makers, like this on their doorstep? Sorry but I have no sympathy for pikey wankers. I tried to understand them but they are all a bunch of nasty, egotystical jumped up trouble making bastards who would steal the very soul from you if they could make a buck from it. The ironical thing is, they still bleat on about the council etc ruining their culture by kicking them off the site and they still refer themselves as TRAVELLERS. Tell you what Paddy and Mary, pack up your Caravan and fuck off and do some travelling. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1530592 Ireland 09/01/2011 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Impound their fucking vans, auction them off to pay for their back taxes and the clean up of the site, then tell them all to fuck off back to Ireland. Or let them squat on the land of the loonies who think the law abiding majority should accomodate and pay for, the unlawful minority. hey we dont want them either :) |
RPR (OP) User ID: 1530582 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 11:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be quite honest I'm on the travelers side here, that site has been there for years, their children go to school like all the others, it's just racism. All that will happen is they find another spot to live on till they get booted again. Quoting: alexisj9 Just to clarify why it's racism, they are mostly Irish travelers. It's not just about skin colour. It think what you are talking about is 'National Origin Discrimination'...tis very common. My gf is Irish and works in the public sector - she gets called all sorts. 'shower of conts' second best phrase I've heard this week! I'm definitely not racist! I don't give a monkey's where someone comes from or what colour they are, just that they pay their dues like the rest of us. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297880 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 11:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry but I have no sympathy for pikey wankers. I tried to understand them but they are all a bunch of nasty, egotystical jumped up trouble making bastards who would steal the very soul from you if they could make a buck from it. The ironical thing is, they still bleat on about the council etc ruining their culture by kicking them off the site and they still refer themselves as TRAVELLERS. Tell you what Paddy and Mary, pack up your Caravan and fuck off and do some travelling. Sorry for the re-post, thought it only fair to put my name to this as I am no doubt going to get some bad karma. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297880 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 12:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't live very far from there. They may own the land but it's green belt and not for building on. If you or I tried it we'd have the council around within days. They should have put a stop to this right from the start. Quoting: RPR I'm a very fair-minded person and if people want to live off the grid so to speak then that's okay by me. What isn't okay is having one rule for one and a different rule for everyone else. I'm afraid around my area these people aren't called pikey's they are called do-as-you-likeys. I expect there are some, as in all cases, that are nice but we've had stones thrown at the car on the main road near there - one actually breaking the rear window, smashing it with my daughter sitting next to it, and a lot of them aren't very nice at all. It upsets me they get away with building on the land. My Father in law retired recently, my mother in law has a really bad back so they sold their house and bought a new build bungalow in a nice green area. What the builder and solicitors failed to tell them was that the land could not have any more building done on it (in their garden). Not even a greenhouse. Before he found out about this though, he went and bought a 7x5 meter shed, had to build it from scratch, for him to carry on tinkering away in his retirement and to store tools, lawnmowers etc in. The council planning department turned up and said he had to rip it all down, about £7k worth of shed. He has been fighting this and fighting this for 2 yrs now and the final appeal chance was dismissed, even though the locals, councilers, government officials and residents all wrote in support of my father in law saying the shed couldnt be seen and isnt having an effect on any green belt. They have aged him badly with stress, he is out of pocket by about £25k with solicitors fees and what not yet these cheeky bastard pikey fuckers get away with murder. I hate them. |
optimusprimate User ID: 1323580 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To be quite honest I'm on the travelers side here, that site has been there for years, their children go to school like all the others, it's just racism. All that will happen is they find another spot to live on till they get booted again. Quoting: alexisj9 Just to clarify why it's racism, they are mostly Irish travelers. It's not just about skin colour. It think what you are talking about is 'National Origin Discrimination'...tis very common. My gf is Irish and works in the public sector - she gets called all sorts. 'shower of conts' second best phrase I've heard this week! I'm definitely not racist! I don't give a monkey's where someone comes from or what colour they are, just that they pay their dues like the rest of us. And I do agree with you. Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God? ~Epicurus 33 A.D I am being held down by four greys as i type this ~ Florence 2015 A.D |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1297880 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was in a Pizza place on Monday with the kids, there was about 6 women and about 8 kids who came in, sat near us and began swearing, being really abusive to the staff, they even let one of the kids put her music on through her phone and the girls, between about 5-10 yrs old all started dancing like grown up girls, they were all wearing revealing clothes too. Just hate them, they are worse than chavs. |
RPR (OP) User ID: 1530582 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I don't live very far from there. They may own the land but it's green belt and not for building on. If you or I tried it we'd have the council around within days. They should have put a stop to this right from the start. Quoting: RPR I'm a very fair-minded person and if people want to live off the grid so to speak then that's okay by me. What isn't okay is having one rule for one and a different rule for everyone else. I'm afraid around my area these people aren't called pikey's they are called do-as-you-likeys. I expect there are some, as in all cases, that are nice but we've had stones thrown at the car on the main road near there - one actually breaking the rear window, smashing it with my daughter sitting next to it, and a lot of them aren't very nice at all. It upsets me they get away with building on the land. My Father in law retired recently, my mother in law has a really bad back so they sold their house and bought a new build bungalow in a nice green area. What the builder and solicitors failed to tell them was that the land could not have any more building done on it (in their garden). Not even a greenhouse. Before he found out about this though, he went and bought a 7x5 meter shed, had to build it from scratch, for him to carry on tinkering away in his retirement and to store tools, lawnmowers etc in. The council planning department turned up and said he had to rip it all down, about £7k worth of shed. He has been fighting this and fighting this for 2 yrs now and the final appeal chance was dismissed, even though the locals, councilers, government officials and residents all wrote in support of my father in law saying the shed couldnt be seen and isnt having an effect on any green belt. They have aged him badly with stress, he is out of pocket by about £25k with solicitors fees and what not yet these cheeky bastard pikey fuckers get away with murder. I hate them. Sorry to hear what trouble he's had over a shed of all things. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1107716 United States 09/01/2011 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On of the best thing the people of UK could do is make it difficult for foreigners to come in. This was why they are rioting. 20yo can't even find a job. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1107716 United States 09/01/2011 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ...and UK wonders "why the world left us behind"... The greedy murdering rich are your problems. Everyone is one step before complete slavery and most the life is sucked out of them. Just look at UK music as an example. It used to be the best. Now its completely gone. Slaves dont write good tunes... They are trying that in the states as well but they just can't seem to get our guns away from us. ...and they never will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1530906 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 12:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its wrong to let anyone settle somewhere for 10 years THEN deide they have to go.....whether they are scum or not , thats an individual opinion , the issue here is their home is being pulled from under their feet , cant tell me that every last person who resides there is a piece of shite... So , when the council finally gets rid of them what do you all think is going to happen?.....mmmmm , a nice new estate with 3/4 bedroom properties for "nice" people !!!! Not everyone wants a mortgage and a good job , its a democracy we live in with a benefit system in place , I hate people crowing on and on about benefit wallers etc.....if the system wasnt fair it wouldnt be there , and while there is a benefit system people will take advantage.....why not???? |
Daisdaway User ID: 1285858 United States 09/01/2011 12:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wouldn't be surprised if there is some trouble if / when the authorities try to evict the people from that land. I'm not sure I buy the Daily Mail's assertion that it's been "hijacked by anarchists" though. Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux Unfortunately, with all the programmes such as My Big Fat Gypsy Wedding, they have become celebraties, so people may or may not latch on to their "cause". You won't get all the looting though - no shops around! I actually watched that show, very interesting to say the least. Thank goodness I was not born in their lifestyle. Being a women in their society would not mesh well with me. |
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RPR (OP) User ID: 1530582 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its wrong to let anyone settle somewhere for 10 years THEN deide they have to go.....whether they are scum or not , thats an individual opinion , the issue here is their home is being pulled from under their feet , cant tell me that every last person who resides there is a piece of shite... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1530906 So , when the council finally gets rid of them what do you all think is going to happen?.....mmmmm , a nice new estate with 3/4 bedroom properties for "nice" people !!!! Not everyone wants a mortgage and a good job , its a democracy we live in with a benefit system in place , I hate people crowing on and on about benefit wallers etc.....if the system wasnt fair it wouldnt be there , and while there is a benefit system people will take advantage.....why not???? They didn't let them settle there for ten years and then suddenly decide they have to go. They have had a legal battle with them for the whole ten years and only just got the right to remove them (unless you are referring to the courts decision). They also built on the area knowing that was illegal. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1393976 United Kingdom 09/01/2011 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes but why was there a 10 year battle. because the european laws of human rights, the answer is simple get out of europe fast. don't vote labour,conservative or liberal instead vote for a party that wants us out of europe. then start dealing with this country and the people in it and the ones who want to be british and boot the ones out that don't want to be. job done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1527537 France 09/01/2011 02:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | First they came for the communists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist. Then they came for the jewish people, and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a jewish. Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me. pikeys first is better |