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Farmin' in the HOOD --- VIDEO --- these families raise tons of food and have transformed the neighborhood...URBAN FARMING/ GARDENING

 
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i have it saved under my personal pins. i'm still watching all the great videos that astrochik has provided us with.ohyeah

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'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

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One of my dreams is to live in a cashless city. All working for the benefits of all. It could be a small village with a few families to farm and build and just live without the control imposed on us.
 Quoting: Passive Resistance


A smooth working money system of a dependable design is possible.

The present system uses some mix and match economic arguments and justifications that are not completely valid.

It is conceived in shortage because some of the arguments and justifications come from using precious metals (shortage) as the basis for money.

However, the hypothecated debt model is not based on precious metals; it is instead a mutual credit model - but the bankers are stealing the seignorage (seigniorage is the spelling I prefer). This theft of seignorage contributes to the shortage memeplex and enables the enrichment of the elite few.

A model for money as a method of communicating distribution and ownership is a model based on a conceptual model of an open-ended and highly productive social structure.

To get a better handle on these concepts, start with "environmentally green money system" found on page 32: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 32)

After that, read: "Little Rooster on The Monkey Trap" which is found midway down page 14: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 14)
 Quoting: Levi Philos


we have many visionaries here - can you imagine if all of us could get together in a coherent group?

WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD!!!!!


clappa:eyes123:
amen
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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One of my dreams is to live in a cashless city. All working for the benefits of all. It could be a small village with a few families to farm and build and just live without the control imposed on us.
 Quoting: Passive Resistance


A smooth working money system of a dependable design is possible.

The present system uses some mix and match economic arguments and justifications that are not completely valid.

It is conceived in shortage because some of the arguments and justifications come from using precious metals (shortage) as the basis for money.

However, the hypothecated debt model is not based on precious metals; it is instead a mutual credit model - but the bankers are stealing the seignorage (seigniorage is the spelling I prefer). This theft of seignorage contributes to the shortage memeplex and enables the enrichment of the elite few.

A model for money as a method of communicating distribution and ownership is a model based on a conceptual model of an open-ended and highly productive social structure.

To get a better handle on these concepts, start with "environmentally green money system" found on page 32: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 32)

After that, read: "Little Rooster on The Monkey Trap" which is found midway down page 14: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 14)
 Quoting: Levi Philos


we have many visionaries here - can you imagine if all of us could get together in a coherent group?

WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD!!!!!


clappa:eyes123:
amen
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wonder
'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

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Great thread....thanks

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if you don't have an add to favorites link under your avatar, just bookmark it or save it under your favorites in your browser.hf

i have it saved under my personal pins. i'm still watching all the great videos that astrochik has provided us with.ohyeah
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the response to this thread has really made my day/week/month!!!

smile_kissdrunkcharlieflowerratdancerastabananurawavepump2heartsohyeahy_happy

red_heart

thanks!!
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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500 showers heated from one small compost pile how to tutorial



People are just all kinds of clever!!!afro
 Quoting: Astrochik


An idea closely related to this (search string: "straw bale" + "manure tea" + greenhouse heat): [link to www.google.com]

Not only does the composting process of the strawbales provide heat, but you can plant stuff directly into the strawbales.

Here is one hit: [link to www.gardenguides.com] but use the google search to gain more like that.
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wow...sad, but there is hope...

We Are All Workers: Episode 1 - The Seeds of Change



i just wish they did not move their manufacturing out of the country - we need it back - esp. levis - it's an american icon...
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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Great thread....thanks

Can someone tell me the best way to "save" this thread. It's so rich with info, websites, videos. Is there some way I can put in a file or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1100144


if you don't have an add to favorites link under your avatar, just bookmark it or save it under your favorites in your browser.hf

i have it saved under my personal pins. i'm still watching all the great videos that astrochik has provided us with.ohyeah
 Quoting: tinygreen


the response to this thread has really made my day/week/month!!!

smile_kissdrunkcharlieflowerratdancerastabananurawavepump2heartsohyeahy_happy

red_heart

thanks!!
 Quoting: Astrochik


bumphug crowdsurf

4ballz

cutiebump

and i'm smoking one with you in my mind.oldherb

for the nonsmokers..6pack

or..tripacid
'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

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People are just all kinds of clever!!!afro
 Quoting: Astrochik


An idea closely related to this (search string: "straw bale" + "manure tea" + greenhouse heat): [link to www.google.com]

Not only does the composting process of the strawbales provide heat, but you can plant stuff directly into the strawbales.

Here is one hit: [link to www.gardenguides.com] but use the google search to gain more like that.
 Quoting: Levi Philos


COOL - GOTTA TRY THIS!!

How to Grow Vegetables in Straw Bales

Vegetable gardening in hay bales is similar to gardening in raised beds in that it is a convenient way to garden for those who have restricted mobility or limited space. The hay bales usually will last about two seasons. As a bonus, over time the hay decomposes and the interior of the hay bale becomes composted material, which adds nutrients for the growing plants.

[link to www.gardenguides.com]

thanks!!hf
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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Great thread....thanks

Can someone tell me the best way to "save" this thread. It's so rich with info, websites, videos. Is there some way I can put in a file or something?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1100144


if you don't have an add to favorites link under your avatar, just bookmark it or save it under your favorites in your browser.hf

i have it saved under my personal pins. i'm still watching all the great videos that astrochik has provided us with.ohyeah
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the response to this thread has really made my day/week/month!!!

smile_kissdrunkcharlieflowerratdancerastabananurawavepump2heartsohyeahy_happy

red_heart

thanks!!
 Quoting: Astrochik


bumphug crowdsurf

4ballz


cutiebump

and i'm smoking one with you in my mind.oldherb

for the nonsmokers..6pack

or..tripacid
 Quoting: tinygreen


where are you tinygreen? Might have to do that in person!hf
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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if you don't have an add to favorites link under your avatar, just bookmark it or save it under your favorites in your browser.hf

i have it saved under my personal pins. i'm still watching all the great videos that astrochik has provided us with.ohyeah
 Quoting: tinygreen


the response to this thread has really made my day/week/month!!!

smile_kissdrunkcharlieflowerratdancerastabananurawavepump2heartsohyeahy_happy

red_heart

thanks!!
 Quoting: Astrochik


bumphug crowdsurf

4ballz


cutiebump

and i'm smoking one with you in my mind.oldherb

for the nonsmokers..6pack

or..tripacid
 Quoting: tinygreen


where are you tinygreen? Might have to do that in person!hf
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michigan, where are you?
'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

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Great thread OP!!
Thanks!
hf
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michigan, where are you?
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CA - but I was born in Michigan...

are you planning on staying in Michigan for the long term?

I don't know if I can stay in CA or the US for that matter...
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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Great thread OP!!
Thanks!
hf
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Thanks for your support and appreciation!!afro
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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And Making a Difference!



EDIT - LET'S GO FOR A RE-PIN...

Epic story of about 20 families that uprooted from suburbia and made their homes for good in one of the most blighted neighborhoods in the U.S.

Lykins Neighborhood 64127 Inner City KCMO.

And the game is changing!

Together as Lykins Neighborhood we believe there is hope.

Crime is dropping! 21% over the last 2 years and the adventure continues.

Follow the story at [link to TheUrbanFarmingGuys.com]

Featuring Aquaponics, Neighborhood Transformation, Permaculture, Urban Farming and lots of fun taking back the neighborhood. Come join the conversation on Facebook : [link to tiny.ly] and the Blog at

[link to TheUrbanFarmingGuys.com]
 Quoting: Astrochik


WOW! This is just wonderful. I'd move there if I didn't have a family to care for (can't uproot right now). I'm going to feature them on my website. Thanks OP for posting this. This is what we, as American citizens, SHOULD be doing to rebuild our nation and our communities.

I'm going to let my teenager watch this and get some inspiration and ideas because my kid is always talking about stuff like this. I think I'll use our sunroom in our home and plant some stuff--TRY and plant something (although it will probably die because of my not-so-green thumb).
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And Making a Difference!



EDIT - LET'S GO FOR A RE-PIN...

Epic story of about 20 families that uprooted from suburbia and made their homes for good in one of the most blighted neighborhoods in the U.S.

Lykins Neighborhood 64127 Inner City KCMO.

And the game is changing!

Together as Lykins Neighborhood we believe there is hope.

Crime is dropping! 21% over the last 2 years and the adventure continues.

Follow the story at [link to TheUrbanFarmingGuys.com]

Featuring Aquaponics, Neighborhood Transformation, Permaculture, Urban Farming and lots of fun taking back the neighborhood. Come join the conversation on Facebook : [link to tiny.ly] and the Blog at

[link to TheUrbanFarmingGuys.com]
 Quoting: Astrochik


WOW! This is just wonderful. I'd move there if I didn't have a family to care for (can't uproot right now). I'm going to feature them on my website. Thanks OP for posting this. This is what we, as American citizens, SHOULD be doing to rebuild our nation and our communities.

I'm going to let my teenager watch this and get some inspiration and ideas because my kid is always talking about stuff like this. I think I'll use our sunroom in our home and plant some stuff--TRY and plant something (although it will probably die because of my not-so-green thumb).
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if you plant it, it will grow!!

where there is a will and positive intention, universe will reward...afro
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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michigan, where are you?
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CA - but I was born in Michigan...

are you planning on staying in Michigan for the long term?

I don't know if I can stay in CA or the US for that matter...
 Quoting: Astrochik


yeah, staying here. i have inherited the family farm. altogether with my parent house, we have 10 acres of land left. our farm used to have 2000, but after grandpa got sick he sold most of it. then, after he died, my mom sold all but 5 acres for the taxes and to buy out her siblings.

great land, good for growing. i'm older, 51, so the radiation will not affect me as much. i'd be worried if i were a young person though.

to be perfectly honest, the entire world is in trouble. i'm going to sit it out here, i'm in the country and i am getting prepared for when shtf. i plan on taking people in if something happens. many hands can get the work done and keep people safe.
'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

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I live in central Illinois. I've been trying to do this for three years. I got a 40 x 60 greenhouse two story tank room designed for solar panels for electricity. Got a 5000 gallon tank, a 1000 gallon tank, a dozen 250 gallon tanks, and several 55 gallon aquariums for breeding my tilapia. Native blue tilapia - no hormones. Over 300ft of hydro channels; over 2000 tilapia. Some koi, chickens and worms; working on rabbits & growing duckweed. But I do it alone and can't do all the work that needs to be done I also want to grow edible and medicinal mushrooms and herbs, but labor is my issue. Living in my small town I have few visionaries let alone some one that realizes the benefits of labor exchange. So the dream is slow to become fully functional.

Volunteers, backers, partner, & benefactor needed.
 Quoting: ROADKYLL


<made some corrections to spelling and sentence structure>

Congratulations on thinking somewhat larger than normal. One step larger and some specialization and you can go commercial.

A smooth working monetary system of low extractive cost (money will never be "free") is a significant part of the whole picture.

See this thread; plow through it to gain different perspectives; links and discussion in depth: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments

Koi are cold hardy, but tilapia will die if water temperatures drop below (?) ~60 degrees F. You might look into different species of fish so as to not lose and entire fish harvest. The guys in Milwaukee are growing yellow perch.
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One of my dreams is to live in a cashless city. All working for the benefits of all. It could be a small village with a few families to farm and build and just live without the control imposed on us.
 Quoting: Passive Resistance


A smooth working money system of a dependable design is possible.

The present system uses some mix and match economic arguments and justifications that are not completely valid.

It is conceived in shortage because some of the arguments and justifications come from using precious metals (shortage) as the basis for money.

However, the hypothecated debt model is not based on precious metals; it is instead a mutual credit model - but the bankers are stealing the seignorage (seigniorage is the spelling I prefer). This theft of seignorage contributes to the shortage memeplex and enables the enrichment of the elite few.

A model for money as a method of communicating distribution and ownership is a model based on a conceptual model of an open-ended and highly productive social structure.

To get a better handle on these concepts, start with "environmentally green money system" found on page 32: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 32)

After that, read: "Little Rooster on The Monkey Trap" which is found midway down page 14: Thread: Get rid of the money system, then get rid of goverrments (Page 14)
 Quoting: Levi Philos


we have many visionaries here - can you imagine if all of us could get together in a coherent group?

WE WILL CHANGE THE WORLD!!!!!


clappa:eyes123:
:amen:
 Quoting: Astrochik


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michigan, where are you?
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CA - but I was born in Michigan...

are you planning on staying in Michigan for the long term?

I don't know if I can stay in CA or the US for that matter...
 Quoting: Astrochik


yeah, staying here. i have inherited the family farm. altogether with my parent house, we have 10 acres of land left. our farm used to have 2000, but after grandpa got sick he sold most of it. then, after he died, my mom sold all but 5 acres for the taxes and to buy out her siblings.

great land, good for growing. i'm older, 51, so the radiation will not affect me as much. i'd be worried if i were a young person though.

to be perfectly honest, the entire world is in trouble. i'm going to sit it out here, i'm in the country and i am getting prepared for when shtf. i plan on taking people in if something happens. many hands can get the work done and keep people safe.
 Quoting: tinygreen


nama

i have a young daughter and am concerned for her of course - family scattered...it's difficult to consider all this!!

best wishes to you and your family there!!

red_heart
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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thank you AC - very good advice - courage and integrity are called for in difficult times especially...

nama

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26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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DIY Laundry Soap 20 cents a gallon!



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Awesome gonna get the wife right on this.
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michigan, where are you?
 Quoting: tinygreen


CA - but I was born in Michigan...

are you planning on staying in Michigan for the long term?

I don't know if I can stay in CA or the US for that matter...
 Quoting: Astrochik


yeah, staying here. i have inherited the family farm. altogether with my parent house, we have 10 acres of land left. our farm used to have 2000, but after grandpa got sick he sold most of it. then, after he died, my mom sold all but 5 acres for the taxes and to buy out her siblings.

great land, good for growing. i'm older, 51, so the radiation will not affect me as much. i'd be worried if i were a young person though.

to be perfectly honest, the entire world is in trouble. i'm going to sit it out here, i'm in the country and i am getting prepared for when shtf. i plan on taking people in if something happens. many hands can get the work done and keep people safe.
 Quoting: tinygreen


nama

i have a young daughter and am concerned for her of course - family scattered...it's difficult to consider all this!!

best wishes to you and your family there!!

red_heart
 Quoting: Astrochik


if you are considering leaving cali, let me know. do you visit michigan at all?
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I have extensive files and many many links on the topic of aquaponics. For the present, I must get outside and get some work done.

Here are two related links: [link to www.aquaranch.com] Aquaponics operation in Illinois

Fabrene Corporation of Canada can furnish hoop structure covers in very large sizes: [link to www.fabrene.com]

... back later ...
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DIY Laundry Soap 20 cents a gallon!



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Awesome gonna get the wife right on this.
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i have to try it myself!!afro
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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I have extensive files and many many links on the topic of aquaponics. For the present, I must get outside and get some work done.

Here are two related links: [link to www.aquaranch.com] Aquaponics operation in Illinois

Fabrene Corporation of Canada can furnish hoop structure covers in very large sizes: [link to www.fabrene.com]

... back later ...
 Quoting: Levi Philos


now i feel guilty staying on here so long...just enjoying my best thread ever...so far...

please come back and post your links when you can!!hf
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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Well since were talking shtf, here is a laundry soap recipe that will save you money. This is a copy/paste of the recipe I use. I got it off the web last year but have no idea where or who to give credit to. This recipe and others like it have been posted here but until now I hadn't taken the time to break it down and determine how much I need of each ingredient. The calculations are listed at the bottom.

The Soap: The most typical type of soap to use is Fels Naptha. It is an old-fashioned type of soap usually found in the laundry aisle. The other options for soap are Ivory or another brand called, Zote. Any of these will work. If you use Ivory or your own homemade soap you will need to use the whole bar.

Washing Soda: This is not to be confused with baking soda. They are not the same thing. Washing soda is sodium carbonate or soda ash (baking soda is sodium bicarbonate). It is a white powder. Its purpose is to help remove dirt and orders. The brand to look for is Arm & Hammer Washing Soda. I find it in the laundry section of my grocery store. Many people have a hard time finding this locally. I know you can purchase it on-line, even through Amazon.com. I would also suggest asking your grocery store manager if it would be possible for the store to get it for you.

Borax: Borax is a naturally occurring mineral: Sodium Borate. It is a white powder. Itís purpose is as a laundry whitener and deodorizer. The brand to look for is 20 Mule Team. It comes in a 76 oz. box. You should be able to locate this in the laundry detergent aisle. Again as with the washing soda, if you cannot find it ask you store manager or look online.
USE THIS RECIPE
Homemade Laundry Soap
1/3 bar Fels Naptha or other type of soap, as listed above
½ cup washing soda
½ cup borax powder
~You will also need a small bucket, about 2 gallon size~

Grate the soap and put it in a sauce pan. Add 6 cups water and heat it until the soap melts. Add the washing soda and the borax and stir until it is dissolved. Remove from heat. Pour 4 cups hot water into the bucket. Now add your soap mixture and stir. Now add 1 gallon plus 6 cups of water and stir. Let the soap sit for about 24 hours and it will gel. You use ½ cup per load.


The finished soap will not be a solid gel. It will be more of a watery gel that has been accurately described as an "egg drop soup" look.

The soap is a low sudsing soap. So if you donít see suds, that is ok. Suds are not what does the cleaning, it is the ingredients in the soap.


If you want your soap to have some sort of scent you can scent this with ½ to 1 oz. of essential oil or fragrance oil of your choice.

Calculations:
THIS IS HOW MANY BATCHES YOU CAN MAKE
Washing Soda - 55 ounce box
1/2 Cup = 5 ounces
Each box has 11 "servings"

Borax - 76 ounce box
1/2 Cup = 3 ounces
Each box has 25 "servings"

Fels Naptha
Each bar has 3 "servings"

You'll need:
2 boxes of Washing Soda (22 full recipes)
1 box of Borax (22 full recipes + 3 extra servings)
8 bars of Fels Naptha (22 full recipes +2 extra servings)
I keep it in an old bleach bottle and put it into an old laundry detergent bottle for daily use. Shake it up each time before putting in wash, just one or two shakes, nothing major, and give a good shake to the bleach jug when refilling your laundry jug.
Saves you a fortune. I have 7 in the family so needless to say I use alot of laundry soap. I bought the stuff, which cost me about thr price of a large bottle of tide, (about 15 bucks) and I will have laundry soap for probably about a year! The washing soda is 5 bucks, the borax is 4 or 5 bucks, and the bar soap fels naptha is a buck ( I bought 5) I also went to the dollar store and bought a 4 oz bottle of fragrance they have sitting near the incense and use about a third of a bottle in each batch. My hubby and teens love the smell. Between walmart and ace hardware you can find everything you need to make this stuff. It is also better for septic tanks cause its non sudsing.
 Quoting: flavapor


oh, hell, yes!! i have been looking at soap recepies and haven't seen one yet as good as yours. and you use it so i know it's good. i understand about the nonsuds part. i used to by french shampoo that didn't suds. now i use VO5. 99cents a bottle. love it.

I have a big ass bag of the a&h washing soda on the dryer right now. 20 mule team borax also. i'm almost set to make soap!!!

i'll mos def be trying this. hugs
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DIY Laundry Soap 20 cents a gallon!



 Quoting: Astrochik


Awesome gonna get the wife right on this.
 Quoting: Dark Age


i have to try it myself!!afro
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smaller batch - afro

great thread!!

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Last Edited by Astrochik on 09/03/2011 02:58 PM
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit
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i live in central illinois.i've been trying to do this for three years.i got a 40 x 60 greenhouse two stry tank room designed for solar panels for electricity .got a 5000 gallon tank a 1000 gallon tank and a dozen 250 gallon tanks several 55 gallon aqauriums for breeding my tilapia.native blue tilapia no hormones.over 300ft of hydro channels,over 2000 tilapia.some koi.chickens and worms working on rabbits growing duckweed .but i do it alone and can't do all the work that needs to be done i also want to grow edible and medicinal mushrooms and herbs.but labor is my issue.living in my small town i have few visionaries let alone some one that realizes the benifits of labor exchange .so the dream is slow to become fully functional.volunteers,backers,partner,benefactor needed.
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Where are you roadkyll?
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i live in central illinois.i've been trying to do this for three years.i got a 40 x 60 greenhouse two stry tank room designed for solar panels for electricity .got a 5000 gallon tank a 1000 gallon tank and a dozen 250 gallon tanks several 55 gallon aqauriums for breeding my tilapia.native blue tilapia no hormones.over 300ft of hydro channels,over 2000 tilapia.some koi.chickens and worms working on rabbits growing duckweed .but i do it alone and can't do all the work that needs to be done i also want to grow edible and medicinal mushrooms and herbs.but labor is my issue.living in my small town i have few visionaries let alone some one that realizes the benifits of labor exchange .so the dream is slow to become fully functional.volunteers,backers,partner,benefactor needed.
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Where are you roadkyll?
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i want a glp convention so we can all meet!!

i know...dream on...afro
26 Qualities That Make Man God-Like:

1: Fearlessness 2: purity of heart 3: Steadfastness 4: Almsgiving 5: Self-restraint 6: Religious rites 7: Right study of the scriptures 8: Self discipline 9: Straightforwardness 10: Noninjury 11: Truth 12: Absense of wrath 13: Renunciation 14: Peace 15: Absence of fault-finding and calumny 16: Compassion toward all beings 17: Noncovetousness, absence of greed 18: Gentleness 19: Modesty 20: Absence of restlessness 21: Radiance of character 22: Forgiveness 23: Patience or fortitude 24: Cleanness of body and purity of mind 25: Nonhatred 26: Lack of conceit





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