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The truth about HIV/AIDS PIN!! this can help save lives!!!

 
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this was interesting.

i still don't recommend prostitutes.
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This thread is absolute bullshit, and dangerous bullshit at that.

Viral RNA from an HIV positive patient can be extracted from their blood and amplified via PCR to estimate the concentration on HIV (the viral load) in the bloodstream. There is a high (though imperfect) correlation between viral load and the rate at which CD4 immune cell populations decline, and when CD4 cell populations fall below a certain level, that is when opportunistic infections (AIDS defining illnesses) are more likely to cause illness and eventually death for the patient.

The early attempts at drug treatment drugs were unsuccessful because single drugs were applied at high(and toxic) levels, thought to give the best chance of success in extremely ill patients, and it was not appreciated how quickly resistance could develop in the rapidly mutating HIV virus, with resistant populations quickly rendering the drugs useless. This is why so many people involved in these early trials became more ill from the drugs and eventually died from opportunist infections or other complications caused directly by the HIV virus, cardiomyopathy being one well known example.

During the mid 90s, as more was learnt about the lifecycle of the virus, several classes of drugs were created that attacked various points in this lifecycle and it was correctly reasoned and later became clear from trials that applying different classes of drugs in combination could effectively eliminate the risk of resistance, as a population of HIV that developed mutations conferring resistance to one of the drugs would be unlikely to simultaneously develop a resistance to any of the others and would be wiped out by them, keeping individual resistant strains fully under control.

Further research on the level of these drugs required to prevent resistance over the time between taking the pills has allowed the quantity of these drugs to be fine tuned to the point where side-effects for most patients are extremely well tolerated (if existent at all), and the regimes can be simplified to the point of taking a single pill (containing three or more drugs) once a day.

This has proven to be a very effective form of treatment and is why many people diagnosed HIV positive early enough who regularly take these drug combinations are at very low risk of progressing to full-blown AIDS, possibly indefinitely.

While there are resistant strains of HIV circulating in the population, patients embarking on a regime of drugs are routinely tested for these strains before starting treatment and assuming there is sufficient sensitivity to a few classes of drugs can have their treatment tailored to their needs. Furthermore the range of drugs available continues to be expanded, providing additional options over time for individuals infected by strains of HIV resistant to one or more of the existing drug classes.


So to summarize, HIV infection in most people will eventually lead to immune system damage and death through opportunistic infections or other direct complications. Tolerable treatment regimes can be found for many/most individuals that halt and reverse the CD4 cell destruction, halting the progression to AIDS while they continue to be taken on a regular basis.

The above is why the OPs post is "dangerous bullshit". Anyone who is diagnosed HIV positive who accepts the disproved claims of the OP is likely to die an extremely unpleasant death by rejecting the drugs that will likely save their life. They are also more likely to pass on this devastating illness to others through unprotected sex (accidental or otherwise) because of the high levels of virus that are likely to be circulating in their blood without effective treatment.

If you made it all the way through this long post, I hope it was useful to you and that you have a clearer understanding of the issues involved.
 Quoting: salamanderuk


Thanks,sounds like the typical government BS... would you care to discuss statistics, seems the numbers have always been a thorny issue for the hiv causes Aids crowd.
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This thread is absolute bullshit, and dangerous bullshit at that.

Viral RNA from an HIV positive patient can be extracted from their blood and amplified via PCR to estimate the concentration on HIV (the viral load) in the bloodstream. There is a high (though imperfect) correlation between viral load and the rate at which CD4 immune cell populations decline, and when CD4 cell populations fall below a certain level, that is when opportunistic infections (AIDS defining illnesses) are more likely to cause illness and eventually death for the patient.

The early attempts at drug treatment drugs were unsuccessful because single drugs were applied at high(and toxic) levels, thought to give the best chance of success in extremely ill patients, and it was not appreciated how quickly resistance could develop in the rapidly mutating HIV virus, with resistant populations quickly rendering the drugs useless. This is why so many people involved in these early trials became more ill from the drugs and eventually died from opportunist infections or other complications caused directly by the HIV virus, cardiomyopathy being one well known example.

During the mid 90s, as more was learnt about the lifecycle of the virus, several classes of drugs were created that attacked various points in this lifecycle and it was correctly reasoned and later became clear from trials that applying different classes of drugs in combination could effectively eliminate the risk of resistance, as a population of HIV that developed mutations conferring resistance to one of the drugs would be unlikely to simultaneously develop a resistance to any of the others and would be wiped out by them, keeping individual resistant strains fully under control.

Further research on the level of these drugs required to prevent resistance over the time between taking the pills has allowed the quantity of these drugs to be fine tuned to the point where side-effects for most patients are extremely well tolerated (if existent at all), and the regimes can be simplified to the point of taking a single pill (containing three or more drugs) once a day.

This has proven to be a very effective form of treatment and is why many people diagnosed HIV positive early enough who regularly take these drug combinations are at very low risk of progressing to full-blown AIDS, possibly indefinitely.

While there are resistant strains of HIV circulating in the population, patients embarking on a regime of drugs are routinely tested for these strains before starting treatment and assuming there is sufficient sensitivity to a few classes of drugs can have their treatment tailored to their needs. Furthermore the range of drugs available continues to be expanded, providing additional options over time for individuals infected by strains of HIV resistant to one or more of the existing drug classes.


So to summarize, HIV infection in most people will eventually lead to immune system damage and death through opportunistic infections or other direct complications. Tolerable treatment regimes can be found for many/most individuals that halt and reverse the CD4 cell destruction, halting the progression to AIDS while they continue to be taken on a regular basis.

The above is why the OPs post is "dangerous bullshit". Anyone who is diagnosed HIV positive who accepts the disproved claims of the OP is likely to die an extremely unpleasant death by rejecting the drugs that will likely save their life. They are also more likely to pass on this devastating illness to others through unprotected sex (accidental or otherwise) because of the high levels of virus that are likely to be circulating in their blood without effective treatment.

If you made it all the way through this long post, I hope it was useful to you and that you have a clearer understanding of the issues involved.
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TALKING POINTS.
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Nasty dick + butt hole equals aids.

Dirty needle + your arm equals aids.

Don't do it!
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AIDS is a simain disease, you can see it in monkeys and primates.

Africans test highest in AIDS
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I'd bump this thread, but I'm afraid I'll get AIDS.
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OP, that is all bullshit what you wrote. HIV/AIDS was killing a lot of people before they came out with the HIV/AIDS drugs! Don't be stupid. HIV is deadly if left totally unchecked.
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It was killing people because of the poppers they were taking. These people, mostly gay men, were taking poppers which was a new drug and it wreaks havoc on the respiratory system. It's not a coincidence that in the beginning they were all dying of what appeared to be extreme cases of pneumonia.
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The real sad part about all this is. The Elite sell the drugs, We buy their poison, get arrested and imprisoned for using the poison the ruler's sold.

The poison the elites sell creates a mystery illnesses which is diagnosed by a government paid doctor that prescribe's government made poison which causes the intial poison to kick in until it kills us.

I played their game for years. Not HIV but other things that almost killed me because I believed the lies. NO MORE.

Everything I use is natural. I feel so much better.

Peace.
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HIV is a retro virus.

AIDS is when the retro virus ruins your immune system.
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Quit posting this irresponsible crap. You will end up killing the paranoid that are infected.

You are shameful. Not a doctor or scientist. You are pathetic.
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What is termed AIDS is a blood borne cancer
and the initial site is often the colon
Surgery carried out to remove
the bowel cancer can result in the cancer
cells spreading to the liver and from
there to the lungs and in the
final stages to the brain.
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Nasty dick + butt hole equals aids.

Dirty needle + your arm equals aids.

Don't do it!
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+1
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I agree!
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Thanks,sounds like the typical government BS... would you care to discuss statistics, seems the numbers have always been a thorny issue for the hiv causes Aids crowd.
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Think what you like. I've made it my business to keep up to date with knowledge of this disease. I've got nothing to prove to you or anyone else. I'm merely stating the truth as I understand it based on what I have learnt, and continue to learn, about this disease over the years.
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Think what you like. I've made it my business to keep up to date with knowledge of this disease. I've got nothing to prove to you or anyone else. I'm merely stating the truth as I understand it based on what I have learnt, and continue to learn, about this disease over the years.
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Your business? I see, so you make money from the AIDS scam.
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The only ones that I knew personally who died were on the meds.

I don't know of anyone with 'aids' who was not on the meds.

They got the test and did what the doctor said.

This is interesting. I need to research it.
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I can't believe some people still fall for the "HIV doesn't cause aids" bullshit. I have worked with HIV Positive people for 15 years, and before the triple drug cocktails people died like flies. Now they are worried about social security and retirement like everybody else. It is now a treatable disease. I have watched the nuts who don't believe in the drugs get sick and eventually get well taking the drugs. Before you make your mind up do some real research. Recent studies show that with the triple drug treatment people have the same life expectancy as people without HIV.
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Someone really close to me was recently diagnosed with HIV.

I still wish it was me & not him, as I would have no problems dealing with it. For him it is like a death sentence. He is finding it hard to deal with. He doesnt need the medications yet. He was told by his specialist that his levels (or whatever they use to determine the severity of the virus) were the best that she had ever seen so there was no cause for alarm.

I am seriously considering contracting the virus myself, just to prove that we are being mislead, misinformed & played for fools.

How could I go about exposing this fraud once I (supposably contract the virus). It is not something that I will just jump into, but I am seriously considering it.
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Finished up the first video.. Ughh, longer than anticipated. Although I'll not be taking unnecessary risks, I'll be definitely looking deeper into the subject. When someone gets lied to enough and forgets to question.. well, shows how brainwashed we can be =0\

So considering the HIV virus can be a few different things, and considering they may or may not be related to one another.. and considering AIDS itself can be anything.. well, wtf?

I think, irregardless of the cause of AIDS itself, popers or something else.. if there isn't a concrete definition.. how the hell is a "cure" supposed to ever come to be?

So, AIDS as far as I'm concerned can be caused by:

1: Drug use.
2: Toxicities, in food and environment.
3: Starvation and malnutrition.
4: Insert random thing that could be AIDS here or some random virus you make in photoshop.

The first one I listed because it could be true. Homosexual lifestyles in those times (maybe not all of the time) were high risk behavior. Seamin makes sen

Basically, if it causes cancer it could cause AIDS?

My solution would be to focus on the immune system itself. Diet and nutrition and avoidance of a poor lifestyle.

Still, we have a virus(es) that is thought to cause AIDS, even though "thought to cause" isn't ever going to be conclusive. The testing alone makes it impossible to know if someone was cured or not ... so the statistics (deaths) can't ever be considered accurate.

I'm not taking these videos as "gospel" but I'm defiantly going to dig around. I'm entertained by "conspiracies" that can be quantified anyway.

This isn't a passenger on the doom train but interesting anyway. I doubt any sane human being will be risking their lives due to a few videos and some facts that they would have to verify on their own, so posts indicating that a person is unable to discern what is right for themselves are kinda useless outside of being a gentle reminder.

Thanks again OP!
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Someone really close to me was recently diagnosed with HIV.

I still wish it was me & not him, as I would have no problems dealing with it. For him it is like a death sentence. He is finding it hard to deal with. He doesnt need the medications yet. He was told by his specialist that his levels (or whatever they use to determine the severity of the virus) were the best that she had ever seen so there was no cause for alarm.

I am seriously considering contracting the virus myself, just to prove that we are being mislead, misinformed & played for fools.

How could I go about exposing this fraud once I (supposably contract the virus). It is not something that I will just jump into, but I am seriously considering it.
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I don't think it would be wise to take action like that. Even if the virus itself isn't the only factor.. There is still something killing folks!
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When you test positive for HIV, you are put on medication like AZT, DDI and DDC. Those prescription drugs are called black label drugs and should be banned by the FDA but they are not. They are toxic and cause your immune system to weaken by harming your liver. So as you take these drugs, your body breaks down and you end up with the condition they call AIDS. AIDS is not a disease, it's a condition.

(snip)

As you get sick from the drugs, the Dr tells you that you are getting weaker because the HIV is turning into AIDS. It is a hoax.

(snip)

Only way to test positive for HIV and actually die is to take the toxic drugs. But on the HIV test result sheet, it states in fine print that the test result is not to be used in a diagnosis of HIV.

 Quoting: Illuminist


What about people like Greg Louganis - he's been HIV positive for over 22 years now - and he takes his meds, but the meds haven't make him sick (they claim the meds, along with with his healthy living and attitude, etc., help him stave off the virus).

Are you saying he's lying? Or he's being lied to?
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When you test positive for HIV, you are put on medication like AZT, DDI and DDC. Those prescription drugs are called black label drugs and should be banned by the FDA but they are not. They are toxic and cause your immune system to weaken by harming your liver. So as you take these drugs, your body breaks down and you end up with the condition they call AIDS. AIDS is not a disease, it's a condition.

(snip)

As you get sick from the drugs, the Dr tells you that you are getting weaker because the HIV is turning into AIDS. It is a hoax.

(snip)

Only way to test positive for HIV and actually die is to take the toxic drugs. But on the HIV test result sheet, it states in fine print that the test result is not to be used in a diagnosis of HIV.

 Quoting: Illuminist


What about people like Greg Louganis - he's been HIV positive for over 22 years now - and he takes his meds, but the meds haven't make him sick (they claim the meds, along with with his healthy living and attitude, etc., help him stave off the virus).

Are you saying he's lying? Or he's being lied to?
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Or does he even have the virus in the first place?
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And those in africa with aids and no medication are dying of...what?
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Your business? I see, so you make money from the AIDS scam.
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No. I was diagnosed HIV positive in 1994. My "business" is a personal matter of life and death.

I don't have statistics to hand but I can provide a personal case study that illustrates many of the points in my post.

At diagnosis in 1994 my CD4 count was 950-ish and viral load 85000-ish. Over the next nine years my viral load increased and CD4 count gradually and steadily declined.

When I was first diagnosed, there were few treatment options available but by the time I started treatment in 2004 with a CD4 count of 250 there were numerous options available that were literally bringing people back from death's door at the clinic I attend

After about 4 months my viral load became (and remains) undetectable. My CD4 count has risen slowly but steadily and is now back at around the 550 mark, well within the range of a "normal" immune system.

I hope that goes some way to answering your questions.

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Nasty dick + butt hole equals aids.

Dirty needle + your arm equals aids.

Don't do it!
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You apparently have no clue. Nearly most cases of AIDS or HIV are heterosexually transmitted worldwide. Get out of your trailer and learn some real statistics.
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And those in africa with aids and no medication are dying of...what?
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Bad water, malnutrition to a point where the immune system gets overwhelmed. [link to www.youtube.com]

Remember AIDS is not a virus but Auto Immuno Deficiency Syndrome, when you hear AIDS virus the ignorant are pulling it out of their brainwashed ass.
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Your business? I see, so you make money from the AIDS scam.
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No. I was diagnosed HIV positive in 1994. My "business" is a personal matter of life and death.

I don't have statistics to hand but I can provide a personal case study that illustrates many of the points in my post.

At diagnosis in 1994 my CD4 count was 950-ish and viral load 85000-ish. Over the next nine years my viral load increased and CD4 count gradually and steadily declined.

When I was first diagnosed, there were few treatment options available but by the time I started treatment in 2004 with a CD4 count of 250 there were numerous options available that were literally bringing people back from death's door at the clinic I attend

After about 4 months my viral load became (and remains) undetectable. My CD4 count has risen slowly but steadily and is now back at around the 550 mark, well within the range of a "normal" immune system.

I hope that goes some way to answering your questions.
 Quoting: salamanderuk

I've read others with similar studies - and good for you!!! ;-)hf

I was just reading an article that compared those living with HIV to diabetes - how it has been transformed from a rapidly fatal disease to one with death rates more like diabetes - in other words, manageable with a combination of meds and healthy living!
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Your business? I see, so you make money from the AIDS scam.
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No. I was diagnosed HIV positive in 1994. My "business" is a personal matter of life and death.

I don't have statistics to hand but I can provide a personal case study that illustrates many of the points in my post.

At diagnosis in 1994 my CD4 count was 950-ish and viral load 85000-ish. Over the next nine years my viral load increased and CD4 count gradually and steadily declined.

When I was first diagnosed, there were few treatment options available but by the time I started treatment in 2003 with a CD4 count of 250 there were numerous options available that were literally bringing people back from death's door at the clinic I attend

After about 4 months my viral load became (and remains) undetectable. My CD4 levels have risen slowly but steadily and and is now back at around the 550 mark, well within the range of a "normal" immune system.

I hope that goes some way to answering your questions.
 Quoting: salamanderuk


Well stated and adds balance to the discussion. I'm still going to be digging around though.

Cancer is a pandemic [too] and never seems to scare as many (or even have the same stigmata) which I wan't to dig into as well. Down Syndrome is another one... a crisis of the human body seems to be taking place and it thus far appears to me that the HIV/AIDS issue is a forshock.
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Someone really close to me was recently diagnosed with HIV.

I still wish it was me & not him, as I would have no problems dealing with it. For him it is like a death sentence. He is finding it hard to deal with. He doesnt need the medications yet. He was told by his specialist that his levels (or whatever they use to determine the severity of the virus) were the best that she had ever seen so there was no cause for alarm.

I am seriously considering contracting the virus myself, just to prove that we are being mislead, misinformed & played for fools.

How could I go about exposing this fraud once I (supposably contract the virus). It is not something that I will just jump into, but I am seriously considering it.
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That's called a Bug Catcher or Bug Chaser

[link to www.urbandictionary.com]

Bug Catcher:

The original aim was to intentionally contract the HIV virus by exposing oneself to a carrier, ensuring death one the virus took hold (many likened this to a form of suicide).

Normally, the more extreme Bug chasers or bug catchers care little for their well being are mentally disturbed and unstable. Most are sexually free and there may even be some that enjoy giving their 'gifts' to unaware sexual partners.
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Someone really close to me was recently diagnosed with HIV.

I still wish it was me & not him, as I would have no problems dealing with it. For him it is like a death sentence. He is finding it hard to deal with. He doesnt need the medications yet. He was told by his specialist that his levels (or whatever they use to determine the severity of the virus) were the best that she had ever seen so there was no cause for alarm.

I am seriously considering contracting the virus myself, just to prove that we are being mislead, misinformed & played for fools.

How could I go about exposing this fraud once I (supposably contract the virus). It is not something that I will just jump into, but I am seriously considering it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1557358


I'm sorry for the situation you and your friend find yourselves in. There is no fraud to expose (see posts from myself and AC 1473455) so please don't do anything stupid.

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I've read others with similar studies - and good for you!!! ;-)hf

I was just reading an article that compared those living with HIV to diabetes - how it has been transformed from a rapidly fatal disease to one with death rates more like diabetes - in other words, manageable with a combination of meds and healthy living!
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Thanks, and I agree strongly with the diabetes analogy!
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For a conspiracy site, I figured the majority of you would already know the truth about HIV/AIDS, yet I see so many threads acting as if it is real.

First things first. HIV is not deadly. It is a retro virus that has been in humans for a very long time. To be more specific, to this day they can't isolate the virus to prove you are positive for it. All they can do is test you for anti-bodies that may, or may not be reacting.

When you test positive for HIV, you are put on medication like AZT, DDI and DDC. Those prescription drugs are called black label drugs and should be banned by the FDA but they are not. They are toxic and cause your immune system to weaken by harming your liver. So as you take these drugs, your body breaks down and you end up with the condition they call AIDS. AIDS is not a disease, it's a condition.

This is what your loving Dr. prescribes you when he tells you that you are HIV positive:

[link to www.healtoronto.com]

As you get sick from the drugs, the Dr tells you that you are getting weaker because the HIV is turning into AIDS. It is a hoax.

If HIV was legit, the testing for HIV would be the same in every country on the planet. They do rapid tests in Africa but in the US rapid tests aren't done because they are inaccurate. You can test positive for HIV in America and go to Canada and test negative because of the different criteria.

Only way to test positive for HIV and actually die is to take the toxic drugs. But on the HIV test result sheet, it states in fine print that the test result is not to be used in a diagnosis of HIV.

It is a money making industry and as long as people believe in it, the racket continues.

That is why it is still to this day called the HIV hypothesis. Because they sold you on the conclusion and changed variables in the procedure to get there.

The following clip is a Dr that took the blood from an HIV positive person and gave it to himself. He did this to try and prove that HIV is not contracted through blood. He continued to test negative until the time of his death.




These are some documentaries about HIV/AIDS:





 Quoting: Illuminist


can you post the links to those vids?it won't let me link to them.





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