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Why doctors in Fukushima won't help children

 
anonymous321

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does anyone know what they are doing to solve this problem? Are they gonna cement it? Would that even help? They just gonna stand around and look at it and hope it gets better? We hear a lot about what is going on (online) but never about what they are doing to fix it?? Anyone??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384367


Its simple.There is really nothing to do.The scope of this disaster is beyond human help.This is one of those things that nature takes it course.Why do you think there are no updates or concerns here in the US.It cant be fixed.
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Here's the reason they are not telling us. They feel the psychological effects will be harmful.

August 30th, 2011 at 06:32 PM

“We’ve got to stop these sorts of reports coming out” — Int’l conference warns that media talk of Fukushima health effects “may be harmful”

[link to enenews.com]

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does anyone know what they are doing to solve this problem? Are they gonna cement it? Would that even help? They just gonna stand around and look at it and hope it gets better? We hear a lot about what is going on (online) but never about what they are doing to fix it?? Anyone??
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1384367


There is nothing they can do.

Two of the reactors already went into total melt-through into several weeks ago. There are two radioactive globs of liquid hot 'corium' burning through the ground underneath the plants, which weighs many tons.

At best it will out-gas quantities of radioactive isotopes deadly to anyone nearby, for thousands of years.

At worst it will hit water and produce a much more polluting radioactive geyser for hundreds or thousands of years.


One single melt through from one of any of the hundreds of Fukushima style nuclear plants that blanket the US, and much of the world, could destroy agriculture over an entire continent, if it creates a perpetual nuclear geyser. This would produce much more radiation than all-out nuclear war.

For decades now much safer, logical and sustainable designs for nuclear plants have been developed, such as Thorium reactors and Pebble reactors. Wiki them if you get a chance. There is ten times much Thorium as there is Uranium available, but you can't make bombs from it. These are designs that one can walk away from and they can't melt down. There is also a processing method to where the radiation is reduced to such low levels that it can be reintroduced to the original mines less radioactive than when it was removed.

The western nuclear industry rejected the thorium and pebble options, possibly because of the outputs of those options as compared to their footprint area on the land and income gain over the following decade, in terms of return on investment.
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Please note this is in Japanese with subtitles. They are not perfect as the author is Japanese. This stuff is shocking especially as we are talking about children. It looks like an official interviews as their a camera flashes why Mr Nakate speaks. He has a high profile within Japan. Form your own opinion.


[link to australiancannonball.com]
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Please note this is in Japanese with subtitles. They are not perfect as the author is Japanese. This stuff is shocking especially as we are talking about children. It looks like an official interviews as their a camera flashes why Mr Nakate speaks. He has a high profile within Japan. Form your own opinion.


[link to australiancannonball.com]
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this is just atrocious. lies upon lies upon lies. and when someone tells the truth, that person is laughed at and ridiculed. too many people's heads stuck firmly in the sand.



 Quoting: tinygreen


Well tinygreen the horror of this is that it has global impact. Prior to Fukushima Ive read that cancer rates were twice as high in the Northern hemisphere than the Southern hemisphere. Correlates well to twice as high radioactive readings in the Northern hemisphere. I'm afraid that Fukushima has increased that by many fold. Its a total criminal act by governments world wide not to alert people and to take action.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788992


yes, i understand the ramifications to the rest of the world. i've been talking about this for quite some time.

many countries have been guilty of polluting the world with the byproducts of nuclear testing and warfare. we are guilty here in the US of this. so are many other countries.

none of them have warned anyone of what it will do to the world because 'it will alarm the public.' fucking bullshit.

have you seen the video from last night that shows another explosion at the fukushima reactor I? there was an explosion there. here it is...



 Quoting: tinygreen


I only see fog and a light. I didn't see any explosion... sorry but I guess I'm missing it???
I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief...
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Lies lies and lies in Japan. The Japanese governments untruthfulness is killing the Japanese people.

How are they covering up all the deaths, deformed babys, sick ppl ++??
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oh wow, please do inform us oh informed one.Especially about all the deformed babys.
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'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

(sapp vs tallahassee)
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sorry, i think i grabbed the wrong time frame. here's the correct one...



well, shit, it's been removed. now you know it was a fucked up mess.
'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

(sapp vs tallahassee)
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"d'oh!, it was 10microsievert instead of 100microsievert that was dangerous."
this would be a lawsuit if it was the US. But it seems like there is a much bigger power at hand here. Perhaps we should ask the Bilderberg what's going on.
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"d'oh!, it was 10microsievert instead of 100microsievert that was dangerous."
this would be a lawsuit if it was the US. But it seems like there is a much bigger power at hand here. Perhaps we should ask the Bilderberg what's going on.
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i wonder if the doctor and homer simpson are brothers from another mother.

Last Edited by Tiny Green on 09/05/2011 03:46 PM
'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

(sapp vs tallahassee)
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If it is exploding so, as we can see it on that video from the last night - so the hell is on Earth! - and we are all in for ever!
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this is from Thread: Fukushima - Livecam - STRANGE FLASH

soul breaking video posted by ac 1534640 who is the op of the above thread.


'it is not the duty of the police to protect you. their job is to protect THE CORPORATION and arrest code breakers.'

(sapp vs tallahassee)
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verysad My dad died at 94... he always said "what you don't know can't hurt you". Now I know that what you don't know can kill you.
In my opinion its their plan to depopulate the earth, and it don't matter to the elite how it is done.
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When an elite would be an elite, it would not do such things! Because, when you are elite, you cannot be a retarded person. So, I do not think, that this is a dead of a Bilderberger or other club of maniacs.
It is not possible, to be not logical, when you are an elitist.
You are not elite, when you are only cruel!

This is only the hell, which was prepared in the system itself. Everybody knew it, and so it began. Starting projects with nuclear power is known since the beginning as as a deadly game. That, what we can see now, is only a sequence of the starting process.

I think, that maybe the process of melting into the ground, into the Earth, maybe can start some process of destroying the Earth from inside. That is only an idea....that cannot be the goal of an elite!
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Terrible thing to happen, but tell me this how are children being born deformed when this only happned a few months ago?. I would have thought it would have taken a few months from conception to birth and i am sure this would have taken months from conception to birth, might be wrong but if i am sorry just wondering .
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I agree. Mothers in their first trimester will give birth in December, January, and February. If radiation is harmful to the fetus, I would think the most damage would occur during the first trimester.
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Sort of. Radiation exposure during the first trimester might result in a stillborn or seriously deformed child. While radiation in the 2nd and 3rd trimester might simply cause a huge tumor in the child. It's still a hideous prognosis no matter what, IMHO.
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maybe these are premature births?
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The doctors can not treat babies for nuke damage so they can't help...simple, plain and straight forward.

It's not going to be just the Japanese children, it's going to be American children too.

You just can't tell the public all this as depressed people can't get out of bed much less go to work and it would finish off the economy.
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What LIES? I dont see any lies now....they did at first but what is true is freaking obvious. The doctors have said the kids are cactus...not right away but eventually....so there is no point in helping them. The doctor he speaks of has seen it before in Nagasaki/Hiroshima and know the outcome.

They didnt have the huge bombings but know what the amount of radiation does. They know that moving the people of Fukushima will effect others coming into contact with them...so they are sort of in quarantine....but arent actually...they are quarantining themselves by not moving but it would be enforced if they all wanted out.

IF those people are so full of radiation...do YOU think they should be relocated to effect others? Their lives are worth a lot, so much....but arent those people less effected also worth something too? Its like saying HIV/AIDS people should go amongst those not effected, with reckless abandon. Cant cure em....dont want the disease....but let them all mingle with people that dont have it just to see if can be cured.
 Quoting: Tracy


I think you may not understand radiation and radioactivity correctly.

Fukushima contains a lot of radioactivity. This radioactive material continuously emits radiation, and that radiation can cause mutations.

If you take a person from Fukushima, fly him 1000 miles away, give him a thorough shower and new clothes, he will basically be free of radioactivity. However his cells and his genes may have mutated, and he may be unable to have normal children.

The only threat he poses then is if he marries someone from another area, who could have had normal children, but who does not because of the mutated sperm (or egg) of the partner who had been in Fukushima.
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The doctors can not treat babies for nuke damage so they can't help...simple, plain and straight forward.

It's not going to be just the Japanese children, it's going to be American children too.

You just can't tell the public all this as depressed people can't get out of bed much less go to work and it would finish off the economy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 747029


But they could have done evacuations and warnings to prevent the accumulation of radiation damage. This would have been more effective the earlier it was done.

But, just as with the US and European banking crises, the Financial System comes before anything else. It wasn't always this way. It wasn't, as far as I can tell, in the 1930's or Glass Steagall would not have been passed. But it's that way now.

Frog's at least simmering.
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So the answer to the question in the thread's title, literally, is:

(1) immediately after the incident, they lied to the doctors so the doctors themselves would not flee and would stay and help the people. (what an insult to the doctors, and the greatest help to the people would probably have been to get them away from radiation poisoning, rather than providing other medical services on site while radiation poisoning continued)

(2) implicitly now, it's too late, so no point in saying anything. This Yamashita fellow just tries to keep things calm, and he's in charge of the medical establishment, so the doctors don't dare say anything.
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This is crazy.....

verysad
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Good to see a fellow Aussie on here. I`m in Brisbane and have work tomorrow so off to bed for me. I think this is mainly a US site so you guys have a good day.
 Quoting: AustralianCannonball 1533390


Im on the Goldy mate! There's plenty of cool Aussies on here. I'm sure you'll come across the usual suspects soon enough!
hf
Another public service announcement from the Southern Hemisphere Information Leveraging Locus.
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This is crazy.....

verysad
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Good to see a fellow Aussie on here. I`m in Brisbane and have work tomorrow so off to bed for me. I think this is mainly a US site so you guys have a good day.
 Quoting: AustralianCannonball 1533390


Im on the Goldy mate! There's plenty of cool Aussies on here. I'm sure you'll come across the usual suspects soon enough!
hf
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yes, there are many extremely cool aussies on this site. gotta love'em.heartballons
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most pregnant when this happened will miscarry or deliver stillborn

I would not be surprised to find a high spike in pregnancies that end badly at this time




bump for all the men, women, and children still on the island that need to evacuate ASAP
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Well tinygreen the horror of this is that it has global impact. Prior to Fukushima Ive read that cancer rates were twice as high in the Northern hemisphere than the Southern hemisphere. Correlates well to twice as high radioactive readings in the Northern hemisphere. I'm afraid that Fukushima has increased that by many fold. Its a total criminal act by governments world wide not to alert people and to take action.
 Quoting: tinygreen


Well, the Southern Hemi has an entirely different lifestyle and their consumption of poisonous foods/environment is waaaaaay lower as well. Just saying.
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Well tinygreen the horror of this is that it has global impact. Prior to Fukushima Ive read that cancer rates were twice as high in the Northern hemisphere than the Southern hemisphere. Correlates well to twice as high radioactive readings in the Northern hemisphere. I'm afraid that Fukushima has increased that by many fold. Its a total criminal act by governments world wide not to alert people and to take action.
 Quoting: tinygreen


Well, the Southern Hemi has an entirely different lifestyle and their consumption of poisonous foods/environment is waaaaaay lower as well. Just saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 788992


We're fat as fuck. Dunno where you are getting your stats from. afro

The only thing saving us is that there is 10% of the industrial pollution down here compared to up there since we only have a fraction of the pop.
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