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Why Not Redistribute Wealth?

 
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Three quarters — 74 percent — of voters throughout the country believe that businesses and consumers are over-regulated, according to a Public Notice poll released today. And they strongly suspect that much of that over-regulation has been implemented recently: 67 percent believe that regulations have increased over the past few years.

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You must educate people to believe as you do, that we need more regulations to keep things fair. The majority of Americans do not feel as you do
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you really mean taking/stealing from some to give to others..it's evil at the core that's why.
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OK, RL, everything is fine and dandy, and is as it should be.

The priorities of The Powers That Be are correctly directed, the obscenely rich deserve all the economic and political power that they have taken for themselves and they carry no economic responsibilities towards their fellow human beings, as long as they maximize profits for their shareholders.

The poor and middle class are where they are because they are either lazy, stupid, or both. They, too, could become rich if they only worked harder and made better decisions. The rich are that way because they are smart and work hard. No one who is rich should be asked or expected to share any of their booty with those below them. It is, more or less: I have mine, leave it alone, get your own. The attainment, accumulation, and hoarding of wealth as an end in itself is a worthy goal for anyone.

Gotta love the uber-capitalist ethic. Just full of love, empathy and compassion for their fellow human beings.

The system is working fine the way it is, I guess.

Never mind.

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Redistributing wealth is moving it from one to another.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing

Based on what legal standing? Are you just too retarded to understand this question?
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Tax codes, tax brackets, tax breaks, tax loopholes, tax shelters, tax subsidies, off-shore accounts, bank bailouts, QE, no-bid government contracts, fox-guarding-the-hen-house regulatory agencies, cronyism, and on and on . . .

Or are you just too retarded to notice all the corruption and bribery going on around you?
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing

This is not evidence, that you have a legal right, to the property of other people. So far, you're failing in simple law. You have not proven any legal standing to the property of other people, nor have you proved, that anyone who claims to represent you lawfully represent anyone with standing. Your problem, is the law does not support your greed and property theft.
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Redistributing wealth is moving it from one to another.
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Based on what legal standing? Are you just too retarded to understand this question?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 596828


Tax codes, tax brackets, tax breaks, tax loopholes, tax shelters, tax subsidies, off-shore accounts, bank bailouts, QE, no-bid government contracts, fox-guarding-the-hen-house regulatory agencies, cronyism, and on and on . . .

Or are you just too retarded to notice all the corruption and bribery going on around you?
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing

This is not evidence, that you have a legal right, to the property of other people. So far, you're failing in simple law. You have not proven any legal standing to the property of other people, nor have you proved, that anyone who claims to represent you lawfully represent anyone with standing. Your problem, is the law does not support your greed and property theft.
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So, the concept of sharing wealth is greedy, but the concept of accumulating and hoarding it is not.

Gee, how could I have missed that?
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Great idea - let's start with YOURS
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Based on what legal standing? Are you just too retarded to understand this question?
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Tax codes, tax brackets, tax breaks, tax loopholes, tax shelters, tax subsidies, off-shore accounts, bank bailouts, QE, no-bid government contracts, fox-guarding-the-hen-house regulatory agencies, cronyism, and on and on . . .

Or are you just too retarded to notice all the corruption and bribery going on around you?
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing

This is not evidence, that you have a legal right, to the property of other people. So far, you're failing in simple law. You have not proven any legal standing to the property of other people, nor have you proved, that anyone who claims to represent you lawfully represent anyone with standing. Your problem, is the law does not support your greed and property theft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 437828


So, the concept of sharing wealth is greedy, but the concept of accumulating and hoarding it is not.

Gee, how could I have missed that?
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


it's not your business,what other people do with what belongs to them. What do you do with what you have? give it all away to the poor? I doubt that, you're consumed with envy of others, which happens to be the core root of all sin and evil.
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Tax codes, tax brackets, tax breaks, tax loopholes, tax shelters, tax subsidies, off-shore accounts, bank bailouts, QE, no-bid government contracts, fox-guarding-the-hen-house regulatory agencies, cronyism, and on and on . . .

Or are you just too retarded to notice all the corruption and bribery going on around you?
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing

This is not evidence, that you have a legal right, to the property of other people. So far, you're failing in simple law. You have not proven any legal standing to the property of other people, nor have you proved, that anyone who claims to represent you lawfully represent anyone with standing. Your problem, is the law does not support your greed and property theft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 437828


So, the concept of sharing wealth is greedy, but the concept of accumulating and hoarding it is not.

Gee, how could I have missed that?
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


it's not your business,what other people do with what belongs to them. What do you do with what you have? give it all away to the poor? I doubt that, you're consumed with envy of others, which happens to be the core root of all sin and evil.
 Quoting: ceawaves


I have enough (barely) to take care of my family. I work hard, I take no handouts. I am right at the median income, so I'm as financially and economically average as they go. I make my yearly compulsory donation to TPTB, pay a good portion of my income towards support of another household where two of my kids live half the time. So basically, I'm on the same treadmill as a hundred million other people in this country. What comes in, goes right back out in the process of living in this system. I am more fortunate than many others, and thankful for that. I am not "consumed" by envy of anyone. This isn't about me. I have enough. Don't have more than enough. Just have enough, and that's better than not having enough.

I'm looking at the big picture here and I see lots that is just plain wrong. I see millions of people who don't have enough, who are struggling with day-to-existence, who don't have a place to live, who don't have enough to eat, and I wonder how this could happen in a world with so much wealth. There is enough wealth in the world many times over to ensure that everyone's basic necessities are taken care of. And yet we still have homelessness and starvation because there is not an equitable distribution of wealth. Many of those who have the wealth are hoarding it, live ostentatious lifestyles, and are, in a word, greedy. We as a society have spent and wasted trillions on tools and methods of great destruction, while a good portion of the world lives in poverty. But that has become the American Way, I guess.

This is mine, leave it alone, get your own. And it is passed off as some sort of high ideal.
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Maybe instead of taking money away from rich people. Why not hit the world bank in the nuts? They created all this debt out of thin air. Do a all debt canceled thing. Goverments. Loans all canceled. Think of that instead of a few people with more money than you. Fuck the world bank!
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Maybe instead of taking money away from rich people. Why not hit the world bank in the nuts? They created all this debt out of thin air. Do a all debt canceled thing. Goverments. Loans all canceled. Think of that instead of a few people with more money than you. Fuck the world bank!
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Agree. That gang of thieves who run the World Bank, IMF, BIS, FRS, ECB, Wall Street, and that whole cartel, are precisely the people of whom I speak.

And yes, a worldwide jubilee would go a long way towards rebalancing everything. That alone would be taking money from the richest people. Just bulldoze the whole financial system and start again. We either do it by choice in an orderly manner, or nature will take it's course in a chaotic collapse.

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yeah we should start with Bill Cosby's and Oprah's.. then move on to all the rappers, they surely don't need all that money..
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Even when the OP puts up a serious post, there are still foolish trolls running amuck...

Get a life AC. Try love, compassion, respect, honor. Or continue to work against your brothers and sisters to YOUR OWN DEMISE.
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This is not evidence, that you have a legal right, to the property of other people. So far, you're failing in simple law. You have not proven any legal standing to the property of other people, nor have you proved, that anyone who claims to represent you lawfully represent anyone with standing. Your problem, is the law does not support your greed and property theft.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 437828


So, the concept of sharing wealth is greedy, but the concept of accumulating and hoarding it is not.

Gee, how could I have missed that?
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


it's not your business,what other people do with what belongs to them. What do you do with what you have? give it all away to the poor? I doubt that, you're consumed with envy of others, which happens to be the core root of all sin and evil.
 Quoting: ceawaves


I have enough (barely) to take care of my family. I work hard, I take no handouts. I am right at the median income, so I'm as financially and economically average as they go. I make my yearly compulsory donation to TPTB, pay a good portion of my income towards support of another household where two of my kids live half the time. So basically, I'm on the same treadmill as a hundred million other people in this country. What comes in, goes right back out in the process of living in this system. I am more fortunate than many others, and thankful for that. I am not "consumed" by envy of anyone. This isn't about me. I have enough. Don't have more than enough. Just have enough, and that's better than not having enough.

I'm looking at the big picture here and I see lots that is just plain wrong. I see millions of people who don't have enough, who are struggling with day-to-existence, who don't have a place to live, who don't have enough to eat, and I wonder how this could happen in a world with so much wealth. There is enough wealth in the world many times over to ensure that everyone's basic necessities are taken care of. And yet we still have homelessness and starvation because there is not an equitable distribution of wealth. Many of those who have the wealth are hoarding it, live ostentatious lifestyles, and are, in a word, greedy. We as a society have spent and wasted trillions on tools and methods of great destruction, while a good portion of the world lives in poverty. But that has become the American Way, I guess.

This is mine, leave it alone, get your own. And it is passed off as some sort of high ideal.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


So you just have enough huh? who's to judge that? as you clearly stated you have more than some.. why should you have more than the ones who have nothing? What makes you better? or makes you think you should have more than those who are starving and homeless?
It's thinking like yours that will leave only to groups of people.. the very rich elitists and the very poor and starving, the poor will be trapped in world of misery with no hope of ever getting out.
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Redistribute your own damn wealth. You ain't getting mine!
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So, the concept of sharing wealth is greedy, but the concept of accumulating and hoarding it is not.

Gee, how could I have missed that?
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


it's not your business,what other people do with what belongs to them. What do you do with what you have? give it all away to the poor? I doubt that, you're consumed with envy of others, which happens to be the core root of all sin and evil.
 Quoting: ceawaves


I have enough (barely) to take care of my family. I work hard, I take no handouts. I am right at the median income, so I'm as financially and economically average as they go. I make my yearly compulsory donation to TPTB, pay a good portion of my income towards support of another household where two of my kids live half the time. So basically, I'm on the same treadmill as a hundred million other people in this country. What comes in, goes right back out in the process of living in this system. I am more fortunate than many others, and thankful for that. I am not "consumed" by envy of anyone. This isn't about me. I have enough. Don't have more than enough. Just have enough, and that's better than not having enough.

I'm looking at the big picture here and I see lots that is just plain wrong. I see millions of people who don't have enough, who are struggling with day-to-existence, who don't have a place to live, who don't have enough to eat, and I wonder how this could happen in a world with so much wealth. There is enough wealth in the world many times over to ensure that everyone's basic necessities are taken care of. And yet we still have homelessness and starvation because there is not an equitable distribution of wealth. Many of those who have the wealth are hoarding it, live ostentatious lifestyles, and are, in a word, greedy. We as a society have spent and wasted trillions on tools and methods of great destruction, while a good portion of the world lives in poverty. But that has become the American Way, I guess.

This is mine, leave it alone, get your own. And it is passed off as some sort of high ideal.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


So you just have enough huh? who's to judge that? as you clearly stated you have more than some.. why should you have more than the ones who have nothing? What makes you better? or makes you think you should have more than those who are starving and homeless?
It's thinking like yours that will leave only to groups of people.. the very rich elitists and the very poor and starving, the poor will be trapped in world of misery with no hope of ever getting out.
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You make no sense.
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it's not your business,what other people do with what belongs to them. What do you do with what you have? give it all away to the poor? I doubt that, you're consumed with envy of others, which happens to be the core root of all sin and evil.
 Quoting: ceawaves


I have enough (barely) to take care of my family. I work hard, I take no handouts. I am right at the median income, so I'm as financially and economically average as they go. I make my yearly compulsory donation to TPTB, pay a good portion of my income towards support of another household where two of my kids live half the time. So basically, I'm on the same treadmill as a hundred million other people in this country. What comes in, goes right back out in the process of living in this system. I am more fortunate than many others, and thankful for that. I am not "consumed" by envy of anyone. This isn't about me. I have enough. Don't have more than enough. Just have enough, and that's better than not having enough.

I'm looking at the big picture here and I see lots that is just plain wrong. I see millions of people who don't have enough, who are struggling with day-to-existence, who don't have a place to live, who don't have enough to eat, and I wonder how this could happen in a world with so much wealth. There is enough wealth in the world many times over to ensure that everyone's basic necessities are taken care of. And yet we still have homelessness and starvation because there is not an equitable distribution of wealth. Many of those who have the wealth are hoarding it, live ostentatious lifestyles, and are, in a word, greedy. We as a society have spent and wasted trillions on tools and methods of great destruction, while a good portion of the world lives in poverty. But that has become the American Way, I guess.

This is mine, leave it alone, get your own. And it is passed off as some sort of high ideal.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


So you just have enough huh? who's to judge that? as you clearly stated you have more than some.. why should you have more than the ones who have nothing? What makes you better? or makes you think you should have more than those who are starving and homeless?
It's thinking like yours that will leave only to groups of people.. the very rich elitists and the very poor and starving, the poor will be trapped in world of misery with no hope of ever getting out.
 Quoting: ceawaves


You make no sense.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


He makes perfect sense, he just misused the word 'to' when he meant 'two'

You are splitting semantic hairs again.

He make perfect sense and he is right. For global equality to occur, (whole problem with the global economy from your OP), every person in the 'modern world' woulf have to have their standard of living cut to about 1/2 of the middle class standard is now. But that is not what you speal of, right? You only want the rich brought down to your present level so you might feel you are their equal.

Clothes don't make the man. Wealth does not make you equal to the real producers.

Sorry charlie, you lose
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I have enough (barely) to take care of my family. I work hard, I take no handouts. I am right at the median income, so I'm as financially and economically average as they go. I make my yearly compulsory donation to TPTB, pay a good portion of my income towards support of another household where two of my kids live half the time. So basically, I'm on the same treadmill as a hundred million other people in this country. What comes in, goes right back out in the process of living in this system. I am more fortunate than many others, and thankful for that. I am not "consumed" by envy of anyone. This isn't about me. I have enough. Don't have more than enough. Just have enough, and that's better than not having enough.

I'm looking at the big picture here and I see lots that is just plain wrong. I see millions of people who don't have enough, who are struggling with day-to-existence, who don't have a place to live, who don't have enough to eat, and I wonder how this could happen in a world with so much wealth. There is enough wealth in the world many times over to ensure that everyone's basic necessities are taken care of. And yet we still have homelessness and starvation because there is not an equitable distribution of wealth. Many of those who have the wealth are hoarding it, live ostentatious lifestyles, and are, in a word, greedy. We as a society have spent and wasted trillions on tools and methods of great destruction, while a good portion of the world lives in poverty. But that has become the American Way, I guess.

This is mine, leave it alone, get your own. And it is passed off as some sort of high ideal.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


So you just have enough huh? who's to judge that? as you clearly stated you have more than some.. why should you have more than the ones who have nothing? What makes you better? or makes you think you should have more than those who are starving and homeless?
It's thinking like yours that will leave only to groups of people.. the very rich elitists and the very poor and starving, the poor will be trapped in world of misery with no hope of ever getting out.
 Quoting: ceawaves


You make no sense.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


He makes perfect sense, he just misused the word 'to' when he meant 'two'

You are splitting semantic hairs again.

He make perfect sense and he is right. For global equality to occur, (whole problem with the global economy from your OP), every person in the 'modern world' woulf have to have their standard of living cut to about 1/2 of the middle class standard is now. But that is not what you speal of, right? You only want the rich brought down to your present level so you might feel you are their equal.

Clothes don't make the man. Wealth does not make you equal to the real producers.

Sorry charlie, you lose
 Quoting: Real list


Yeah, I caught that and transposed "two" but still makes no sense.

You and people who think like you, are obsessed with the attainment, accumulation, and hoarding of wealth. That is the precise definition of greed. And selfishness, too. I have mine, leave it alone, get your own. Good parents correct their kindergarteners for such attitudes. Yet you cling to it as some sort of virtue. And most of the problems in the world today can be traced back to that same prevailing attitude.

There are people in the world, probably the silent majority, who have matured beyond such obsessions with wealth and material possessions, and conduct their lives from a higher perspective that involves generosity, selflessness, altruism, and true concern for their fellow human beings. They are giving, kind, and helpful. Their wealth is of the soul. Their treasures are inside of them. They are the true "producers" and "winners" and the only glue holding this evil world together right now.

And if we would devise an economy based on those higher principles, we would enter a Golden Age.

Sorry, Charlie. Look at where your type of thinking has brought us: to the edge of a chasm.

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So, the concept of sharing wealth is greedy, but the concept of accumulating and hoarding it is not.

Gee, how could I have missed that?
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Damn right it is, when you have absolutely no legal claim of standing to any of other peoples property. Your just a common thief, accepting something from people who stole it from your neighbors?.
What other people legally earn and own, is none of your business.
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So, the concept of sharing wealth is greedy, but the concept of accumulating and hoarding it is not.

Gee, how could I have missed that?
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Damn right it is, when you have absolutely no legal claim of standing to any of other peoples property. Your just a common thief, accepting something from people who stole it from your neighbors?.
What other people legally earn and own, is none of your business.
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Ah, more "This-is-mine, leave-it-alone, get-your-own" kindergarten thinking. No wonder the world is such a pathetic mess.
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So you just have enough huh? who's to judge that? as you clearly stated you have more than some.. why should you have more than the ones who have nothing? What makes you better? or makes you think you should have more than those who are starving and homeless?
It's thinking like yours that will leave only to groups of people.. the very rich elitists and the very poor and starving, the poor will be trapped in world of misery with no hope of ever getting out.
 Quoting: ceawaves


You make no sense.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


He makes perfect sense, he just misused the word 'to' when he meant 'two'

You are splitting semantic hairs again.

He make perfect sense and he is right. For global equality to occur, (whole problem with the global economy from your OP), every person in the 'modern world' woulf have to have their standard of living cut to about 1/2 of the middle class standard is now. But that is not what you speal of, right? You only want the rich brought down to your present level so you might feel you are their equal.

Clothes don't make the man. Wealth does not make you equal to the real producers.

Sorry charlie, you lose
 Quoting: Real list


Yeah, I caught that and transposed "two" but still makes no sense.

You and people who think like you, are obsessed with the attainment, accumulation, and holding of wealth. That is the precise definition of greed. And selfishness, too. I have mine, leave it alone, get your own. Good parents correct their kindergarteners for such attitudes. Yet you cling to it as some sort of virtue. And most of the problems in the world today can be traced back to that same prevailing attitude.

There are people in the world, probably the silent majority, who have matured beyond such obsessions with wealth and material possessions, and conduct their lives from a higher perspective that involves generosity, selflessness, altruism, and true concern for their fellow human beings. They are giving, kind, and helpful. Their wealth is of the soul. Their treasures are inside of them. They are the true "producers" and "winners" and the only glue holding this evil world together right now.

And if we would devise an economy based on those principles, we would enter a Golden Age.

Sorry, Charlie. Look at where your type of thinking has brought us: to the edge of a chasm.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


Why don't you just tell everyone you're a communist trying to come in though "giving, kind, and helpful,treasures inside" door? but you really could care less about any poor down trotted people. that's nothing but propaganda for your communist brain washing..
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You make no sense.
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He makes perfect sense, he just misused the word 'to' when he meant 'two'

You are splitting semantic hairs again.

He make perfect sense and he is right. For global equality to occur, (whole problem with the global economy from your OP), every person in the 'modern world' woulf have to have their standard of living cut to about 1/2 of the middle class standard is now. But that is not what you speal of, right? You only want the rich brought down to your present level so you might feel you are their equal.

Clothes don't make the man. Wealth does not make you equal to the real producers.

Sorry charlie, you lose
 Quoting: Real list


Yeah, I caught that and transposed "two" but still makes no sense.

You and people who think like you, are obsessed with the attainment, accumulation, and holding of wealth. That is the precise definition of greed. And selfishness, too. I have mine, leave it alone, get your own. Good parents correct their kindergarteners for such attitudes. Yet you cling to it as some sort of virtue. And most of the problems in the world today can be traced back to that same prevailing attitude.

There are people in the world, probably the silent majority, who have matured beyond such obsessions with wealth and material possessions, and conduct their lives from a higher perspective that involves generosity, selflessness, altruism, and true concern for their fellow human beings. They are giving, kind, and helpful. Their wealth is of the soul. Their treasures are inside of them. They are the true "producers" and "winners" and the only glue holding this evil world together right now.

And if we would devise an economy based on those principles, we would enter a Golden Age.

Sorry, Charlie. Look at where your type of thinking has brought us: to the edge of a chasm.
 Quoting: TheTymeBeing


Why don't you just tell everyone you're a communist trying to come in though "giving, kind, and helpful,treasures inside" door? but you really could care less about any poor down trotted people. that's nothing but propaganda for your communist brain washing..
 Quoting: ceawaves


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Re: Why Not Redistribute Wealth?
natural selection, social darwinism.


none of it changed. We just exchanged bashing someone over the head with a rock to economic oppression.

governments redistribute wealth already. it goes to the top, and the send a little back down.

If you hate the mad wealthy, hate the government. No one gets mad wealthy without government intervention allowing it. That is why they have any tax, the government wants their cut of helping the person become bad wealthy. Which requires security, population brainwashing, legal manipulation and a infrastructure all very adept at sending money up the chain. so govt. gets it cut, sends a little back down.

The state is your problem. you think those food stamps are free? you paid for them three times over and dont even know it.


But it cannot be escaped. so quit whining. This is still your natural habitat. No one every escaped it. And if you are on here typing the social darwinism didnt get you yet so cheer up.

HELLO? HELLO?

hold hands and we just give everything to the poor? That is what voluntary charity is for. YOU SEE, i am typing on a laptop and in some country someone is starving to death. This is how it is supposed to be. They call in NATURAL SELECTION. Get with the program, come on people. If a lion is starving in a drought does one come from another country to give it food? YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT. Dont let the surroundings fool you, the same concept of nature, applies to you.
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Re: Why Not Redistribute Wealth?
OP, If you want to redistribute your own wealth, that's fine with me.

I don't have a problem with anyone, untill they try to steal my money to redistribute it to themselves!
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Re: Why Not Redistribute Wealth?
natural selection, social darwinism.


none of it changed. We just exchanged bashing someone over the head with a rock to economic oppression.

governments redistribute wealth already. it goes to the top, and the send a little back down.

If you hate the mad wealthy, hate the government. No one gets mad wealthy without government intervention allowing it. That is why they have any tax, the government wants their cut of helping the person become bad wealthy. Which requires security, population brainwashing, legal manipulation and a infrastructure all very adept at sending money up the chain. so govt. gets it cut, sends a little back down.

The state is your problem. you think those food stamps are free? you paid for them three times over and dont even know it.


But it cannot be escaped. so quit whining. This is still your natural habitat. No one every escaped it. And if you are on here typing the social darwinism didnt get you yet so cheer up.

HELLO? HELLO?

hold hands and we just give everything to the poor? That is what voluntary charity is for. YOU SEE, i am typing on a laptop and in some country someone is starving to death. This is how it is supposed to be. They call in NATURAL SELECTION. Get with the program, come on people. If a lion is starving in a drought does one come from another country to give it food? YOU ARE NO DIFFERENT. Dont let the surroundings fool you, the same concept of nature, applies to you.
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Well, yeah, humans ARE different, but . . .

You describe the current and historical situation well. The government has been bought and paid for by the greed faction, and it has become even worse over the past 3-4 generations. The result is that we have created a top-heavy economy and anything that is top-heavy is by definition unstable, unbalanced and prone to collapse. That is precisely where we are right now. The collapse is inevitable. The PTB can kick the can down the road all they want with their frantic interventions and manipulations but they are only delaying the inevitable and making the severity of the eventual (imminent?) collapse even worse.

The good news is that the greed and evil will destroy itself. The current inequitable system will implode by its own flawed principles and western civilization will collapse just like every other civilization before it. The bad news is the collateral damage to the rest of us and a dark period of transition.

But something new, something better will be rebuilt from the rubble if we can manage to learn from our mistakes and rebuild based on sustainable resources and benevolent principles.

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Ah, more "This-is-mine, leave-it-alone, get-your-own" kindergarten thinking. No wonder the world is such a pathetic mess.
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So respecting other people and their property rights, is kindergarten thinking to you? Are you really that envious and greedy?
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Ah, more "This-is-mine, leave-it-alone, get-your-own" kindergarten thinking. No wonder the world is such a pathetic mess.
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So respecting other people and their property rights, is kindergarten thinking to you? Are you really that envious and greedy?
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[sigh]
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Wednesday, September 14, 2011

A recent study by the Williams Group, a family wealth consulting company, underscores the problem: As many as 70% of wealthy families actually lose control of their wealth by the end of the second generation, and 90% by the end of the third. It's an alarming statistic that unfortunately bears out the adage, "From shirtsleeves to shirtsleeves in three generations."


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I am able to infer that well over half of family wealth is earned. It is a result of somebody's efforts. Yet you feel that others who have put forth less effort, or who happened to have different life circumstances are entitled to the fruits of the efforts of the wealthy person.

Let's try this experiment and tell us what you think the outcome would be.

A group of ten men go on an extended hunting trip. One (10% of the group) guy is very good at meal prep, so the other nine vote he should make all the meals. The same guy is also very good at scouting hunting spots, gathering wood and keeping the cabin warm and cleaning/laundry/water hauling. So the nine vote that he do all these chores too. It is only fair, since the one guy is fit enough and smart enough and in all ways able to do these things, much more able than the others.

Question:

How long will Mr perfect continue to do all the chores

Will Mr perfect come on another hunt?

If you display a modicom of comon sense you will agree that this model does not work. Yet you expect the top 10% of wealthy carry the rest of the world.

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Ah, more "This-is-mine, leave-it-alone, get-your-own" kindergarten thinking. No wonder the world is such a pathetic mess.
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So respecting other people and their property rights, is kindergarten thinking to you? Are you really that envious and greedy?
 Quoting: Clownkiller


[sigh]
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Yep, it is exasperating. Can you believe a kindergarten teacher telling little Johnny to return Billy's pencil? Of course not. She tell's Johnny to take Gloria's candy bar and Jimmy's jacket too.

Some people (eye roll)
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There are people in the world, probably the silent majority, who have matured beyond such obsessions with wealth and material possessions, and conduct their lives from a higher perspective that involves generosity, selflessness, altruism, and true concern for their fellow human beings. They are giving, kind, and helpful. Their wealth is of the soul. Their treasures are inside of them. They are the true "producers" and "winners" and the only glue holding this evil world together right now.

And if we would devise an economy based on those higher principles, we would enter a Golden Age.

Sorry, Charlie. Look at where your type of thinking has brought us: to the edge of a chasm.
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If, as you claim, a majority of people are generous and selfless, why can't they provide food to starving people? 3 billion can't feed to other 3 billion? Some people can produce 10-20-30 times more wealth than average, yet your majority can't produce double their needs and share 1/2? That's all it would take.

The system based on free market capitalism provided the GLUT of goods and services we enjoy today. 300 years ago Europe was in the dark ages compared to the standards enjoyed by the every-man today. Where did that wealth come from? Lincoln read by the light of an oil-lamp. We flip a switch and light the night, indoors and out if we want.

I think you are either

spouting your socialist/communist beliefs

or

trying to debate from an untenable position as a mental exercise

but you are not researching for a book

you are way too opinionated, arrogant and closed minded, you are not discussing, you are lecturing

so

you are a liar

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Re: Why Not Redistribute Wealth?
Ah, more "This-is-mine, leave-it-alone, get-your-own" kindergarten thinking. No wonder the world is such a pathetic mess.
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So respecting other people and their property rights, is kindergarten thinking to you? Are you really that envious and greedy?
 Quoting: Clownkiller


[sigh]
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it's quite evident, that OP does not respect other people nor their property rights. Of course, if Op does not believe in property rights, then nothing he has was ever earned by him, and does not belong to him. Without property rights, then your labor and the product of your labor does not belong to you. Nothing OP has belongs to him, and is all free for the taking.
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There are people in the world, probably the silent majority, who have matured beyond such obsessions with wealth and material possessions, and conduct their lives from a higher perspective that involves generosity, selflessness, altruism, and true concern for their fellow human beings. They are giving, kind, and helpful. Their wealth is of the soul. Their treasures are inside of them. They are the true "producers" and "winners" and the only glue holding this evil world together right now.

And if we would devise an economy based on those higher principles, we would enter a Golden Age.

Sorry, Charlie. Look at where your type of thinking has brought us: to the edge of a chasm.
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If, as you claim, a majority of people are generous and selfless, why can't they provide food to starving people? 3 billion can't feed to other 3 billion? Some people can produce 10-20-30 times more wealth than average, yet your majority can't produce double their needs and share 1/2? That's all it would take.

The system based on free market capitalism provided the GLUT of goods and services we enjoy today. 300 years ago Europe was in the dark ages compared to the standards enjoyed by the every-man today. Where did that wealth come from? Lincoln read by the light of an oil-lamp. We flip a switch and light the night, indoors and out if we want.

I think you are either

spouting your socialist/communist beliefs

or

trying to debate from an untenable position as a mental exercise

but you are not researching for a book

you are way to opinionated, arrogant and closed minded, you are not discussing, you are lecturing

so

you are a liar
 Quoting: Real list


Your thinking is stuck inside a little box reflecting the system you grew up in. Understandable. But step out of that box and free your mind and look around you. It should be obvious that the current system is not working and is about to implode for reasons I have stated numerous times here.

Not saying that some form of "smart" capitalism should not be a part of the new paradigm, but the "dumb" version that has developed so far is about to implode on itself from the top because of the mine-mine-mine-more-more-more thinking that has prevailed through the modern age.

There is a better way to live. This is certainly not the penultimate system and it's flaws are bringing it down as we speak.

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