The sun is right where it should be in the sky!

Suntards are the most delusional tards of all.

How would you compare it to the sun's position 500 years ago ?.

These people LIVE by the sun, the stars and nature. It appears they disagree with you. No offence, but I am more inclined to believe them.

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Nope the sun sits farther south than it should. I dont care what you say dont matter. I have been working my garden for over 8 years and the fence on the south side never once cast a shadow on my garden. It is now casting four feet onto my garden. This has never happened. I dont have a telescope or anything to position but i can honestly say that the sun is sitting in the sky a little farther south than it should.

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I slept outside all last night under a full moon and this thread is complete fucking bullshit.

Are you saying that they see an illusion ? A bit like the so called "moon illusion ".

Who would you trust?

A random guy posting on the internet, or a bunch of descendants from an ancient civilization?

I'd actually trust neither, considering the latter is on copious amounts of peyote.

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No offense, but I know astronomy better than they do and I know for a fact, based on my own measurements which are far more accurate than theirs, that their conclusions are all wrong.

As an Inuit, I find your comment disgusting. Do you even know what "Eskimo" means? And yeah, sure, we are all drunks...

How would you like it if i said "Oh look, another racist American". The board mods should ban you for comments like that....

Exactly. I'm no scientist, so maybe its different down south, but the elders here have been saying this for about 3 years now. Seeing the amount of change in the high arctic, I'm more inclined to listen to them.

I'm sorry, but direct measurement proves you wrong. You may have not noticed your anecdotal circumstance before, but that is not nearly as high a standard of evidence as the direct measurement presented here.

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Wow, so we should totally ignore people that depend on the moon and sun to hunt and fish, and listen to a guy that claims to be an astronomy master on GLP? Pfft....

sun? huh ? what is sun? I havent seen sun since 2000 , we dont have sun in turkey

lol. go look at spiral rock and its clearly obvious that the earth and or the sun is off balance and harmony.

What year are you comparing your results to ?. Or does it not function that way ?.

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You may need a telescope but the rest of the world only needs eyes to see that things are not right. No one is going to trust your "measurements" (based on government provided data, no doubt) to their own experiences and what they have personally witnessed with their own eyes.

And if you think you know astronomy better because you have a telescope and government provided astronomical data over these natives who have lived their lives by the sun, moon and stars for GENERATIONS, then you are ignorant and full of pride...which I believe comes "before the fall"! Good luck with that!

My measurements speak for themselves. You can play the "appeal to inuit authority" card all you want, it's still a logical fallacy and is disproven by high resolution measurements such as this. They think they see something strange in the sun's position when it rises, good for them, but they clearly haven't even done anything to rule out atmospheric refractive effects. This method does just that and shows the sun to be exactly where it should be with an angular resolution many times greater than that of the human eye.

It doesn't work that way.

All data for measurements provided by government funded programs, no doubt. Astromut is their mouthpiece.

So an entire nation of people in the cirum-polar region are just "lying" or all mistaken? Explain to me why thousands of Inuit are reporting this then?

Wrong. Oh, and the telescope is a tool, not a crutch; you could do this with a regular SLR camera, mylar filter, and tripod if you wanted, it just wouldn't have nearly as much angular resolution.

so why did the sun come up 2 days early in Greenland...professor?

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That is NOT the sun in the first picture ! It's the top of a light bulb ! Who do you think your kidding with this fake crap ?

And, the stars 'moving' are close ups of fly crap ON that light bulb !

If you can't make better fake pictures than that, I would stop this nonsense !

You SHOULD move OUT OF your mom's basement, and STOP watching porn all night. Then get a job, IF anyone will hire the 'mentally challenged' !

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Sometimes I wonder if people understand why we have seasons...

You have to go outside your bunker to see the sun.