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samanthasunflower User ID: 1485390 United States 09/10/2011 11:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1312616 Spain 09/10/2011 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just looked outside. The sun isn't in the sky, it's all dark. We are all doooooooooooooooooooooooomed!!!!\ Quoting: samanthasunflower I just looked outside. The sun isn't in the sky, it's all dark. We are all doooooooooooooooooooooooomed!!!!\ Quoting: samanthasunflower 3 days of darkness, It has begun folks! |
Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 09/10/2011 11:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The beauty of this technique is anyone can do it using just a telescope, a safe full aperture solar filter, a camera that can hook up to the telescope, and a clock. You don't even need a tracking system, let alone a GOTO system. It's extremely easy to duplicate, and I'll be able to repeat this test later on as well when we enter the next season of "the sun is too far south." |
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HilosPP User ID: 1543904 United States 09/11/2011 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just looked outside. The sun isn't in the sky, it's all dark. We are all doooooooooooooooooooooooomed!!!!\ Quoting: samanthasunflower I just looked outside. The sun isn't in the sky, it's all dark. We are all doooooooooooooooooooooooomed!!!!\ Quoting: samanthasunflower 3 days of darkness, It has begun folks! Haha, no pics no proof, its night time where I'm at so of course its dark. The Silver Singing Saiyan; Israel's Redeemer. Justice found Equals Satan Usurped Shamelessly It's not me, I am not Him Freedom From Fear The Key To Troublesome Peace |
antikythera User ID: 1030102 United States 09/11/2011 12:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just looked outside. The sun isn't in the sky, it's all dark. We are all doooooooooooooooooooooooomed!!!!\ Quoting: samanthasunflower Oh noooooo, same here. The wolves among you will devour the sheep. :orbsig: :ninjalapirate: Art Homepage, [link to pondcypress.deviantart.com] Hand carved skull and cross available for purchase, [link to www.artfire.com] |
ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 1151764 United States 09/11/2011 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just looked outside. The sun isn't in the sky, it's all dark. We are all doooooooooooooooooooooooomed!!!!\ Quoting: samanthasunflower Oh noooooo, same here. +3 I see no sun outside! I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
2Crazy4U User ID: 1528294 Venezuela 09/11/2011 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I just looked outside. The sun isn't in the sky, it's all dark. We are all doooooooooooooooooooooooomed!!!!\ Quoting: samanthasunflower Oh noooooo, same here. +3 I see no sun outside! +4 Its very dark down here Last Edited by 2Crazy4U on 09/11/2011 12:22 AM Life its not measure by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. |
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BoxerLvr User ID: 859551 Puerto Rico 09/11/2011 12:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This year has produced more reports of the sun being in the "wrong place" in the sky than I can remember from previous years, so I wanted to develop a simple technique for accurately and objectively measuring the sun's position in the sky to a much greater resolution than is possible with the human eye, without even having to rely on my telescope's built-in permanently-encoded computer. To that end, this afternoon I setup my telescope to view the sun and measure its position with astrometric precision without even using GOTO technology. Quoting: Astromut Of course, you can't see background stars with the sun in the same field of view, so how do you perform astrometry of the sun itself? Simple, let the earth's rotation do the work. I simply pointed the telescope at the setting sun (with a safe full-aperture solar filter attached, of course) and started recording video. Moments later, right as a tree top started encroaching on the view, I disengaged the tracking system altogether and noted the time, so at this point the telescope was motionless and the sun started moving out of the field of view as the earth rotated. Then it was just a matter of waiting. Waiting 2 hours 37 minutes, as a matter of fact. I had disengaged the tracking at 6:41:45 PM eastern time, and this was the corresponding frame of the video, showing the limb of the sun that would later be used to determine its exact position: [link to i319.photobucket.com] After the sun set enough that it was safe, I removed the solar filter and waited. At 9:19:21 PM eastern time, a series of fairly bright stars streaked into the field of view, producing this image: [link to i319.photobucket.com] Directly merging the two images with 50% opacity allows me to determine with exact precision whether or not the sun was where it should have been in the sky. Overlaying the merged image onto Stellarium set to the exact same points in time at my location shows definitively that the sun was exactly where it should have been, at RA: 11h 15m 24s DEC: +4d 47' 26". [link to i319.photobucket.com] The full 2+ hour video from sunset to the above star streak image will be uploaded in a little while, as soon as the video file is done compressing to a reasonable size from the 2+ Gigabyte original file. Last Edited by BoxerLvr on 09/11/2011 02:49 PM It is precisely because it is fashionable for Americans to know no science, even though they may be well educated otherwise, that they so easily fall prey to nonsense. They thus become part of the armies of the night, the purveyors of nitwittery, the retailers of intellectual junk food, the feeders on mental cardboard, for their ignorance keeps them from distinguishing nectar from sewage. — Isaac Asimov |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1543097 United States 09/11/2011 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This year has produced more reports of the sun being in the "wrong place" in the sky than I can remember from previous years, so I wanted to develop a simple technique for accurately and objectively measuring the sun's position in the sky to a much greater resolution than is possible with the human eye, without even having to rely on my telescope's built-in permanently-encoded computer. To that end, this afternoon I setup my telescope to view the sun and measure its position with astrometric precision without even using GOTO technology. Quoting: Astromut Of course, you can't see background stars with the sun in the same field of view, so how do you perform astrometry of the sun itself? Simple, let the earth's rotation do the work. I simply pointed the telescope at the setting sun (with a safe full-aperture solar filter attached, of course) and started recording video. Moments later, right as a tree top started encroaching on the view, I disengaged the tracking system altogether and noted the time, so at this point the telescope was motionless and the sun started moving out of the field of view as the earth rotated. Then it was just a matter of waiting. Waiting 2 hours 37 minutes, as a matter of fact. I had disengaged the tracking at 6:41:45 PM eastern time, and this was the corresponding frame of the video, showing the limb of the sun that would later be used to determine its exact position: [link to i319.photobucket.com] After the sun set enough that it was safe, I removed the solar filter and waited. At 9:19:21 PM eastern time, a series of fairly bright stars streaked into the field of view, producing this image: [link to i319.photobucket.com] Directly merging the two images with 50% opacity allows me to determine with exact precision whether or not the sun was where it should have been in the sky. Overlaying the merged image onto Stellarium set to the exact same points in time at my location shows definitively that the sun was exactly where it should have been, at RA: 11h 15m 24s DEC: +4d 47' 26". [link to i319.photobucket.com] The full 2+ hour video from sunset to the above star streak image will be uploaded in a little while, as soon as the video file is done compressing to a reasonable size from the 2+ Gigabyte original file. I would just kindly like you to know that maybe where you are from it hasn't move but up her in alaska, not just my opinion youtube Inuits warn of changing sun. I live in an ALaskan valley in which there is no horizon so the sun rise besides moutain peaks and set besides moutn peaks at the same place every year at the same time. I have pay attention to this, one main thing is the sun use to shine on my side of the mountain where my house is located about 1 hour longer than the rest of the town. IT NO LONGER DOES, then sun sets behind a earlier peak in the sky, the sun also rises in a diffrent postion |
Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 09/11/2011 12:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would just kindly like you to know that maybe where you are from it hasn't move but up her in alaska, not just my opinion youtube Inuits warn of changing sun. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1543097 Well, the Inuits are wrong, the sun is not changing (they claim it's due to a change in our axial tilt, I have already shown that is not the case here Thread: There is no physical "pole shift." (Update: There is still no physical "pole shift.") ). Now, you may be seeing some kind of localized change in atmospheric refraction resulting in what would look like odd rise/set times/locations for the sun; Novaya Zemlya has even been documented as early as 400 years ago as causing the sun to appear two weeks early in the arctic. The sun's true position in the sky, however, is exactly where it should be. |
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2Crazy4U User ID: 1528294 Venezuela 09/11/2011 01:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Man... i don't have anything personal against you, and i am not the kind of coward to write Sh*/4 in the karma system. But WHY you always have to take the fun out of things that otherwise will be fun.. (Geesus i know that the truth goes first, but again DANG boy, you always kill the party) Life its not measure by the number of breath you take, but by the moments that take your breath away. |
antikythera User ID: 1030102 United States 09/11/2011 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The wolves among you will devour the sheep. :orbsig: :ninjalapirate: Art Homepage, [link to pondcypress.deviantart.com] Hand carved skull and cross available for purchase, [link to www.artfire.com] |
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Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 09/11/2011 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well, whenever youtube's done processing it, the original raw video footage will be here: [link to www.youtube.com] It's heavily compressed, but prior to upload the stars I used to measure the sun's position were still easily visible. |
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Astromut (OP) Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 922113 United States 09/11/2011 03:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The sun rose and set 15 degrees to far north around the solstice, after some wobbling the earths tilt settled back into it's normal rotine. The sun sets right were it should now. Nibiru, the ribbon, I don't know... But I know what I observed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1544474 No, what you saw was normal seasonal variation, the earth's tilt has been just fine. Thread: There is no physical "pole shift." (Update: There is still no physical "pole shift.") [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] Don't worry, I can and will repeat this method for measuring the sun's position during future suntard seasons as well. Last Edited by Astromut on 09/11/2011 03:10 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1360216 United States 09/11/2011 03:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I laugh at the "sun is in the wrong" place crowd. Year in, year out, Stonehenge is the same at every equinox and how old is it? 5,6,7 thousand years old? It's pretty sad that ancient man, looks leap and bounds smarter than modern man...when it comes to natural surroundings. |
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