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The God of Jacob in Obama's Speech...Here is what the quran says about him!!! | |
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| Samuel Adams (OP) User ID: 1545497 United States09/11/2011 07:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To me it makes me wonder who he was speaking to. The American People or the Muslims.  "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
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| TXGal4Truth User ID: 1013398 United States09/11/2011 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To me it makes me wonder who he was speaking to. The American People or the Muslims. Quoting: Samuel Adams yes it's so obvious! somebody is speaking to muslims because they quoted from the Christian bible! you have to be stupid not to see that! Symbolism. Those with ears shall hear and those with eyes shall see. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
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| TXGal4Truth User ID: 1013398 United States09/11/2011 08:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This was the one thing that bothered me about O's speech today. Quoting: Miggy The fact that he kept mentioning only Jacob and not the traditional Abraham, Issac and Jacob (he did it at LEAST 3 times) made me cringe.  So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 498151 United States09/11/2011 08:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1275414 United States09/11/2011 08:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, did he say he was reading from Psalm 46 before he read it? Did the audience know this was from the Bible is my question I suppose. I'm sure he did announce it, but I do raise my brow to the fact he chose that passage, out of ALL the passages in the Bible.. If you're going to call yourself God, what a better passage to choose? Act like your quoting scripture, yet your subtly claiming your God, saying you will be exalted above all, just as the AntiChrist is going to do.. This is just the BEST passage the AntiChrist/Satan could choose to say he is God without everyone going into full rage mode.. Well, all I can say is we shall soon see & time will tell.. I know the Muslims consider him as the 12th Imam whom is the Christian AntiChrist, and I've met a few people who really hear from the Lord, and they said he was the one who the Lord revealed to them as the AntiChrist.. Not really sure what to believe myself about that, but I do know we should be keeping a close eye on Obama, he obviously isnt for us, he is against us, hope youve realized that much.. Peace be with you all in Christ Jesus. |
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| TXGal4Truth User ID: 1013398 United States09/11/2011 08:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 498151 FOR HE SHALL EXALT HIMSELF ABOVE THEM ALL. Sounds about right. So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
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| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1545497 United States09/11/2011 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, did he say he was reading from Psalm 46 before he read it? Did the audience know this was from the Bible is my question I suppose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275414 I'm sure he did announce it, but I do raise my brow to the fact he chose that passage, out of ALL the passages in the Bible.. If you're going to call yourself God, what a better passage to choose? Act like your quoting scripture, yet your subtly claiming your God, saying you will be exalted above all, just as the AntiChrist is going to do.. This is just the BEST passage the AntiChrist/Satan could choose to say he is God without everyone going into full rage mode.. Well, all I can say is we shall soon see & time will tell.. I know the Muslims consider him as the 12th Imam whom is the Christian AntiChrist, and I've met a few people who really hear from the Lord, and they said he was the one who the Lord revealed to them as the AntiChrist.. Not really sure what to believe myself about that, but I do know we should be keeping a close eye on Obama, he obviously isnt for us, he is against us, hope youve realized that much.. Peace be with you all in Christ Jesus. I did not hear him say it was from the Bible. I walked into the room as it started. The speech stopped me I my tracks! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1389309 United States09/11/2011 08:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, did he say he was reading from Psalm 46 before he read it? Did the audience know this was from the Bible is my question I suppose. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1275414 I'm sure he did announce it, but I do raise my brow to the fact he chose that passage, out of ALL the passages in the Bible.. If you're going to call yourself God, what a better passage to choose? Act like your quoting scripture, yet your subtly claiming your God, saying you will be exalted above all, just as the AntiChrist is going to do.. This is just the BEST passage the AntiChrist/Satan could choose to say he is God without everyone going into full rage mode.. Well, all I can say is we shall soon see & time will tell.. I know the Muslims consider him as the 12th Imam whom is the Christian AntiChrist, and I've met a few people who really hear from the Lord, and they said he was the one who the Lord revealed to them as the AntiChrist.. Not really sure what to believe myself about that, but I do know we should be keeping a close eye on Obama, he obviously isnt for us, he is against us, hope youve realized that much.. Peace be with you all in Christ Jesus. obummer did NOT say he was reading from the Bible nor credit it - he got up - read - finished and walked away |
| Samuel Adams (OP) User ID: 1545497 United States09/11/2011 08:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish a true biblical scholar would look into this. A Christian with a knowledge of islam......Yes I did not capitalize islam..... "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
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| Samuel Adams (OP) User ID: 1545497 United States09/11/2011 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin |
| TXGal4Truth User ID: 1013398 United States09/11/2011 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I wish a true biblical scholar would look into this. A Christian with a knowledge of islam......Yes I did not capitalize islam..... Quoting: Samuel Adams Posted this on another thread OP. Makes you go hmmmmm.... So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1275414 United States09/11/2011 08:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did not hear him say it was from the Bible. I walked into the room as it started. The speech stopped me I my tracks! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545497 obummer did NOT say he was reading from the Bible nor credit it - he got up - read - finished and walked away Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1389309 Thank you both.. If this is true, that is very, very, very astonishing.. Very well could be calling himself God if he didnt even let everyone know it was psalm 46 he was about to read.. Its very interesting he would choose that passage out of ALL the passages... |
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| GeekOfTheWeek User ID: 1383040 United States09/11/2011 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 498151 Heavy... I love physics. It bonds us eternally, it's what makes our computers work, it's what's in my morning cup of coffee, it's the thing that keeps the universe from vanishing due to lack of belief... |
| TXGal4Truth User ID: 1013398 United States09/11/2011 08:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then the king shall do according to his own will: he shall exalt and magnify himself above every god, shall speak blasphemies against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the wrath has been accomplished; for what has been determined shall be done. He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all. But in their place he shall honor a god of fortresses; and a god which his fathers did not know he shall honor with gold and silver, with precious stones and pleasant things. Thus he shall act against the strongest fortresses with a foreign god, which he shall acknowledge, and advance its glory; and he shall cause them to rule over many, and divide the land for gain. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 498151 Heavy... VERY So have I now become your enemy for telling you the TRUTH? Galatians 4:16 *********************************** You call me paranoid. I call you uninformed. :tgdmwt: |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 498151 United States09/11/2011 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Chew on this: Neither shall he regard the god of his fathers (v. 37). Since Scripture often speaks of the jewish people as descended from their "fathers" and particularly from their fathers Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, many commentators view the phrase "god of his fathers" as evidence that the Antichrist will be a jewish. They are seeking support for an idea that can be traced back to the early centuries of the church. But this old idea has no foundation elsewhere in Scripture, and the only foundation here depends on a strained reading of the text. When seen in a proper light, the reference to the Antichrist's fathers provides no clue as to his race or religion. The angel delivering this message compares Antiochus with his "fathers," using this very word, although he was a non-jewish (v. 24). The true meaning of the prophecy in question is the exact opposite of the meaning usually drawn from it. When examined in context, the statement that the Antichrist will not revere the god of his fathers reveals that he will not be a jewish. The prophecy gives us a list of deities that the Antichrist will refuse to recognize. It says that he will recognize neither the God of gods, the god of his fathers, the desire of women, nor any other god. The list clearly treats the god of his fathers as different from the God of gods. If his father's god was not the true God, his background will not be either Jewish or Christian. What possibility is left? If he comes from northern Iraq, he will probably be a Muslim. Someone might object, "Do not Muslims worship the same God we do, although in an improper way?" No, the being they worship is the same as ours in name only. Both are known as God. But in their character and in their dealings with man, they show themselves to be different. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1439733 United States09/11/2011 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I did not hear him say it was from the Bible. I walked into the room as it started. The speech stopped me I my tracks! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545497 obummer did NOT say he was reading from the Bible nor credit it - he got up - read - finished and walked away Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1389309 Thank you both.. If this is true, that is very, very, very astonishing.. Very well could be calling himself God if he didnt even let everyone know it was psalm 46 he was about to read.. Its very interesting he would choose that passage out of ALL the passages... How many people really knew he was reading from the bible, especially people of other faiths ? How many of his minions will now take it as gospel that he "is god" and are now empowered to do things in his name. And in the eyes of islam, did he just declare himself the 12 mahdi ? |
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