Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin | |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1551222 United States 09/16/2011 12:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And who are the ones that belittle and impugn Ron Paul? Evangelical Christians. Why? Because he tells the truth about America’s foreign policy being responsible for much of the hatred and bitterness erupting in foreign countries against us. I guarantee you that many of the “conservative” Republicans who booed Dr. Paul’s comments to this regard at the GOP Presidential debate this week would identify themselves as evangelical Christians. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1551222 United States 09/16/2011 01:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [thanks W] So, what has happened to turn the most peace-loving institution the world has ever known (the New Testament church) into the biggest cheerleaders for war? I’m talking about un-provoked, illegal, unconstitutional, unbiblical--even secret--wars of aggression. The biggest cheerleaders for the unprovoked, unconstitutional, pre-emptive attack and invasion of Iraq were evangelical Christians. Ditto for the war in Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya, the attacks in Yemen, etc. Who is calling for the bombing of Iran? Evangelical Christians. Who cheers for sending more and more troops all over the world to maim and kill more and more people (including innocents)? Evangelical Christians. Shoot (pun intended)! Most evangelical Christians didn’t even bat an eye when the federal government sent military and police personnel to murder American citizens, including old men, women, and children--Christian old men, women, and children, no less--outside Waco, Texas. And where are today’s evangelical Christians giving a second thought regarding their fellow Christian brothers and sisters in many of these Middle Eastern countries that are being persecuted, imprisoned, tortured, and killed by the puppet regimes being put in power by the US government--at US taxpayer (including Christian taxpayer) expense? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but more Christians have been persecuted under the US-imposed regime in Iraq than were ever persecuted when Saddam Hussein was in power. Oh! And don’t forget that it was the US government that was responsible for putting Saddam Hussein in power to begin with. The US government set up Osama bin Laden, too. But I digress. [more at link] |
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Brie217 User ID: 1462880 United States 09/16/2011 02:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow thanx for the i figured this was dead and buried. the killer kristians here certainly don't wanna hear about it. Chuck Baldwin is a Christian and he wrote the article. There are a few of us who know what is going on! But, we are a very small minority..it's lonely at the top :) |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1551222 United States 09/16/2011 02:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The disciples of our Lord were called “Christians” first by the Gentiles of Antioch, because of the manner in which the disciples reminded them of Christ’s nature and teachings. I never thought I would hear myself say what I’m about to say, but the truth is, the term “Christian” today means anything but Christ-like. To many people today, “Christian” refers to some warmongering, mean-spirited, throw-anyone-to-the-wolves-who-crosses-them person, who then has the audacity to look down their nose in contempt against anyone who disagrees with them for even the smallest reason. And the word “church” has the stigma of being simply an enclave of warmongers to many people today. And that, my friends, is one reason so many people are so turned off with today’s Christianity. And I can’t say that I blame them. I’m turned off too! |
Brie217 User ID: 1462880 United States 09/16/2011 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The disciples of our Lord were called “Christians” first by the Gentiles of Antioch, because of the manner in which the disciples reminded them of Christ’s nature and teachings. I never thought I would hear myself say what I’m about to say, but the truth is, the term “Christian” today means anything but Christ-like. To many people today, “Christian” refers to some warmongering, mean-spirited, throw-anyone-to-the-wolves-who-crosses-them person, who then has the audacity to look down their nose in contempt against anyone who disagrees with them for even the smallest reason. And the word “church” has the stigma of being simply an enclave of warmongers to many people today. And that, my friends, is one reason so many people are so turned off with today’s Christianity. And I can’t say that I blame them. I’m turned off too! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222 It's true..or they shun you. I told my pastor about the Bohemian Grove and he just ignored me. I mean here he is and other are supporting Bush when he is attending a Satanic ceremony! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1551222 United States 09/17/2011 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow thanx for the i figured this was dead and buried. the killer kristians here certainly don't wanna hear about it. This is a very sad thing to me as these Christians do not or will not realize that they are being used by Satan. they all pay to be here. same posts every time. you wanna be a genocidal paychopath OK. but to shove it under the cross of Christ makes me upset. and then they pretend to not understand why people hate them. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1551222 United States 09/17/2011 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I dare say that the modern Warfare State would grind to a screeching halt tomorrow if evangelical Christians would simply stop supporting it! And the thing that most evangelical Christians fail to realize is that the Warfare State is one of the primary tools that the evil one is using to usher in his devilish New World Order that even babes in Christ know to be of Satan. Hence, Christians are helping to promote the very thing that Satan, himself, is using to enslave them. Yes, I’ve been an evangelical Christian for most of my life and an evangelical pastor for all of my adult life. And if we Christians do not quickly repent of this bloodlust that seems to dominate evangelical Christianity today (spiritually and militarily), the word that was first used by un-churched Gentiles to describe Christ’s followers will be used as a curse-word to describe those who facilitated the ruination of our country. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1499877 United States 09/17/2011 01:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [thanks W] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222 So, what has happened to turn the most peace-loving institution the world has ever known (the New Testament church) into the biggest cheerleaders for war? I’m talking about un-provoked, illegal, unconstitutional, unbiblical--even secret--wars of aggression. I can't think of a time in the entire history of Christianity when it was NOT involved with war and supporting war. That early church, the New Testament Church, was tiny and was destroyed by the Romans. Christianity as we know it, with all its violence and cruelty, actually started in 325 A.D. approximately. |
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SiFu Serpentined User ID: 1468339 United States 09/17/2011 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? YES! ______ ___________ ...REVOLUTION... RE- EVOLUTION.... ....THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT BEFORE IT STARTS ALL OVER AGAIN! _____________ Do you actually KNOW how batshit crazy you are, or do you think that this is all real? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1536856 Billions of People Believe some Snake, told some Chic, to Eat an Apple. Now Females Bleed Every Month... and some Psychotic god Kills his Son, because Thousands of Years Later, he is Still Pissed Off! But wait! His Zombie son will Return to Kill Everyone with Eternal Pain/Fire because We Refuse to Believe in these Nonsensical, Plagiarized Myths! But, These Same People: *Run the World, & *are Doctors, *Scientists, *Lawyers, *Presidents and *World Leaders... *They make your Food and *Write your Laws... *They hold Guns, *Explore outer space and *Bomb other countries! ---WANT TO TELL ME AGAIN HOW BATSHIT CRAZY I AM? Quoting: SiFu Serpentined _____________ kundaliniactivated@yahoo ___________ ______ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1554200 United Kingdom 09/17/2011 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "The term "evangelical" comes from the Greek word that means "good news." Evangelism is sharing the good news of the salvation that is available through Jesus Christ. An evangelical, then, is a person dedicated to promoting the good news about Jesus Christ. Combined, the description "evangelical Christian" is intended to indicate a believer in Jesus Christ who is faithful in sharing and promoting the good news." So, yet another thread that takes a broad paintbrush to try and cast a blot against all Christians. Your post should be about EVERYONE who supports war mongering! I'll give you kudos for one thing however. It helps to serve notice to many Christians that they are following Satan infiltrated churches! Thanks! |
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Brie217 User ID: 1462880 United States 09/17/2011 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wow thanx for the i figured this was dead and buried. the killer kristians here certainly don't wanna hear about it. This is a very sad thing to me as these Christians do not or will not realize that they are being used by Satan. they all pay to be here. same posts every time. you wanna be a genocidal paychopath OK. but to shove it under the cross of Christ makes me upset. and then they pretend to not understand why people hate them. Not every Christian does this, I don't. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1315033 United States 09/19/2011 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I believe he died on the cross for my sins and rose again. And, I agree with EVERYTHING Chuck Baldwin just said. The average Christian is so wrapped up in the flag and false patriotism that it is a form of idolatry. They are being played by TPTB and don't even know it. For crying outloud. GWB wasn't a Christian. It was a planned hoax to get dupe gullible Christians. All he had to do was make a couple statements about Jesus and claim to be against abortion and the Church ate it up. Christians should know better. America, with their help, is the biggest source of evil on the planet right now. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1541705 United States 09/19/2011 01:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to chuckbaldwinlive.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222 SNIP Posted on Sep 15, 2011 I’ve been an evangelical Christian since I was a child. I’ve been in the Gospel ministry all of my adult life. I attended two evangelical Christian colleges, received honorary degrees from two others, and taught and preached in several others. I’ve attended many of the largest evangelical pastors’ gatherings and have been privileged to speak at Christian gatherings--large and small--all over America. I have been part of the inner workings of evangelical ministry for nearly 40 years. I think I learned a thing or two about evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity in America. And I’m here to tell you: I don’t like what I see happening these days! Let’s get this straight right out of the gate: nothing touched by man can be perfect, because none of us is perfect. There is no perfect church, perfect school, perfect mission board, perfect Sunday School class, perfect pastor, perfect deacon, or perfect Christian. Until the afterlife, we are all yet encased in Adamic flesh, complete with human weaknesses and imperfections. And only the Pharisaical among us are too proud to admit it. Chuck is writing total nonsense. If true, we can't know God's plan and there is no grace...God's presence in this life. Jesus established one Church which He promised Satan would not take down (Matthew 16:18). He also named Peter, Jesus made Peter head of His Church in that verse. One Lord, one faith, one baptism (Eph 4:5) says Scripture so there is need of only one Church. Jesus established the Roman Catholic Church, the Remnant is Roman Catholic. Give your "yes" to God. He's going to show you personally. He loves us all this much. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1541705 United States 09/19/2011 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Because of private interpretation of Scripture which is heresy Evangelicals think the Temple is going to be rebuilt and such nonsense. Maybe, the reason Evangelicals push war? In the New Covenant, the "temple" is Christ's Church, the Roman Catholic Church. There is the fullness of grace, no where else. Heresy = division and error. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1551222 United States 09/19/2011 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I believe he died on the cross for my sins and rose again. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1315033 And, I agree with EVERYTHING Chuck Baldwin just said. The average Christian is so wrapped up in the flag and false patriotism that it is a form of idolatry. They are being played by TPTB and don't even know it. For crying outloud. GWB wasn't a Christian. It was a planned hoax to get dupe gullible Christians. All he had to do was make a couple statements about Jesus and claim to be against abortion and the Church ate it up. Christians should know better. America, with their help, is the biggest source of evil on the planet right now. i'm deathly afraid of these so-called christians. they're death on a fascist flag waving cross. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1541705 United States 09/19/2011 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atheism never made any atheist happy. "The way of faith gives us more than the way of philosophical thought: it gives us God, near to us as a person, who loves us and deals with us mercifully, giving us that security which human knowledge cannot give. But the way of faith is dark" Edith Stein means by "dark" we have to trust, not seeing always...the true meaning of faith. |