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Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin

 
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Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
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Posted on Sep 15, 2011

I’ve been an evangelical Christian since I was a child. I’ve been
in the Gospel ministry all of my adult life. I attended two
evangelical Christian colleges, received honorary degrees from two
others, and taught and preached in several others. I’ve attended
many of the largest evangelical pastors’ gatherings and have been
privileged to speak at Christian gatherings--large and small--all over
America. I have been part of the inner workings of evangelical
ministry for nearly 40 years. I think I learned a thing or two about
evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity in America. And I’m here to
tell you: I don’t like what I see happening these days!

Let’s get this straight right out of the gate: nothing touched by
man can be perfect, because none of us is perfect. There is no perfect
church, perfect school, perfect mission board, perfect Sunday School
class, perfect pastor, perfect deacon, or perfect Christian. Until the
afterlife, we are all yet encased in Adamic flesh, complete with human
weaknesses and imperfections. And only the Pharisaical among us are
too proud to admit it.



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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
And who are the ones that belittle and impugn Ron Paul? Evangelical
Christians. Why? Because he tells the truth about America’s foreign
policy being responsible for much of the hatred and bitterness
erupting in foreign countries against us. I guarantee you that many of
the “conservative” Republicans who booed Dr. Paul’s comments to
this regard at the GOP Presidential debate this week would identify
themselves as evangelical Christians.
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bumpsomeone pulled their post but couldn't pull their 5 star.. lmao
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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
[thanks W]

So, what has happened to turn the most peace-loving institution the
world has ever known (the New Testament church) into the biggest
cheerleaders for war? I’m talking about un-provoked, illegal,
unconstitutional, unbiblical--even secret--wars of aggression. The
biggest cheerleaders for the unprovoked, unconstitutional, pre-emptive
attack and invasion of Iraq were evangelical Christians. Ditto for the
war in Afghanistan, the bombing of Libya, the attacks in Yemen, etc.
Who is calling for the bombing of Iran? Evangelical Christians. Who
cheers for sending more and more troops all over the world to maim and
kill more and more people (including innocents)? Evangelical
Christians. Shoot (pun intended)! Most evangelical Christians didn’t
even bat an eye when the federal government sent military and police
personnel to murder American citizens, including old men, women, and
children--Christian old men, women, and children, no less--outside
Waco, Texas.

And where are today’s evangelical Christians giving a second
thought regarding their fellow Christian brothers and sisters in many
of these Middle Eastern countries that are being persecuted,
imprisoned, tortured, and killed by the puppet regimes being put in
power by the US government--at US taxpayer (including Christian
taxpayer) expense? I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but more
Christians have been persecuted under the US-imposed regime in Iraq
than were ever persecuted when Saddam Hussein was in power. Oh! And
don’t forget that it was the US government that was responsible for
putting Saddam Hussein in power to begin with. The US government set
up Osama bin Laden, too. But I digress.

[more at link]
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I agree and I AM AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN!
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I agree and I AM AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN!
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wow thanx for thebump

i figured this was dead and buried.

the killer kristians here certainly don't wanna hear about it.
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I agree and I AM AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN!
 Quoting: Brie217


wow thanx for thebump

i figured this was dead and buried.

the killer kristians here certainly don't wanna hear about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222


Chuck Baldwin is a Christian and he wrote the article. There are a few of us who know what is going on! But, we are a very small minority..it's lonely at the top :)
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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
The disciples of our Lord were called “Christians” first by the Gentiles of Antioch, because of the manner in which the disciples reminded them of Christ’s nature and teachings. I never thought I would hear myself say what I’m about to say, but the truth is, the term “Christian” today means anything but Christ-like. To many people today, “Christian” refers to some warmongering, mean-spirited, throw-anyone-to-the-wolves-who-crosses-them person, who then has the audacity to look down their nose in contempt against anyone who disagrees with them for even the smallest reason. And the word “church” has the stigma of being simply an enclave of warmongers to many people today. And that, my friends, is one reason so many people are so turned off with today’s Christianity. And I can’t say that I blame them. I’m turned off too!
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The disciples of our Lord were called “Christians” first by the Gentiles of Antioch, because of the manner in which the disciples reminded them of Christ’s nature and teachings. I never thought I would hear myself say what I’m about to say, but the truth is, the term “Christian” today means anything but Christ-like. To many people today, “Christian” refers to some warmongering, mean-spirited, throw-anyone-to-the-wolves-who-crosses-them person, who then has the audacity to look down their nose in contempt against anyone who disagrees with them for even the smallest reason. And the word “church” has the stigma of being simply an enclave of warmongers to many people today. And that, my friends, is one reason so many people are so turned off with today’s Christianity. And I can’t say that I blame them. I’m turned off too!
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It's true..or they shun you. I told my pastor about the Bohemian Grove and he just ignored me. I mean here he is and other are supporting Bush when he is attending a Satanic ceremony!
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I agree and I AM AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN!
 Quoting: Brie217


wow thanx for thebump

i figured this was dead and buried.

the killer kristians here certainly don't wanna hear about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222


This is a very sad thing to me as these Christians do not or will not realize that they are being used by Satan.
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I agree and I AM AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN!
 Quoting: Brie217


wow thanx for thebump

i figured this was dead and buried.

the killer kristians here certainly don't wanna hear about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222


This is a very sad thing to me as these Christians do not or will not realize that they are being used by Satan.
 Quoting: Brie217


they all pay to be here. same posts every time.

you wanna be a genocidal paychopath OK. but to shove it under the cross of Christ makes me upset. and then they pretend to not understand why people hate them.
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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
I dare say that the modern Warfare State would grind to a screeching halt tomorrow if evangelical Christians would simply stop supporting it! And the thing that most evangelical Christians fail to realize is that the Warfare State is one of the primary tools that the evil one is using to usher in his devilish New World Order that even babes in Christ know to be of Satan. Hence, Christians are helping to promote the very thing that Satan, himself, is using to enslave them.

Yes, I’ve been an evangelical Christian for most of my life and an evangelical pastor for all of my adult life. And if we Christians do not quickly repent of this bloodlust that seems to dominate evangelical Christianity today (spiritually and militarily), the word that was first used by un-churched Gentiles to describe Christ’s followers will be used as a curse-word to describe those who facilitated the ruination of our country.
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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
[thanks W]

So, what has happened to turn the most peace-loving institution the
world has ever known (the New Testament church) into the biggest
cheerleaders for war? I’m talking about un-provoked, illegal,
unconstitutional, unbiblical--even secret--wars of aggression.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222


I can't think of a time in the entire history of Christianity when it was NOT involved with war and supporting war. That early church, the New Testament Church, was tiny and was destroyed by the Romans. Christianity as we know it, with all its violence and cruelty, actually started in 325 A.D. approximately.
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bumpfor Killer Krusader Kristianity under cristus vicarius.
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Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? YES!
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...REVOLUTION...

RE- EVOLUTION....

....THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS RIGHT BEFORE IT STARTS ALL OVER AGAIN!

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Do you actually KNOW how batshit crazy you are, or do you think that this is all real?
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Billions of People Believe some Snake, told some Chic, to Eat an Apple.
Now Females Bleed Every Month... and some Psychotic god Kills his Son, because Thousands of Years Later, he is Still Pissed Off!

But wait!

His Zombie son will Return to Kill Everyone with Eternal Pain/Fire because We Refuse to Believe in these Nonsensical, Plagiarized Myths!

But, These Same People:
*Run the World, & *are Doctors, *Scientists, *Lawyers, *Presidents and *World Leaders... *They make your Food and *Write your Laws... *They hold Guns, *Explore outer space and *Bomb other countries!

---WANT TO TELL ME AGAIN HOW BATSHIT CRAZY I AM?
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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
"The term "evangelical" comes from the Greek word that means "good news." Evangelism is sharing the good news of the salvation that is available through Jesus Christ. An evangelical, then, is a person dedicated to promoting the good news about Jesus Christ. Combined, the description "evangelical Christian" is intended to indicate a believer in Jesus Christ who is faithful in sharing and promoting the good news."

So, yet another thread that takes a broad paintbrush to try and cast a blot against all Christians.

Your post should be about EVERYONE who supports war mongering!

I'll give you kudos for one thing however. It helps to serve notice to many Christians that they are following Satan infiltrated churches!
Thanks!
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where in the fuck is the je sus ah ?????
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I agree and I AM AN EVANGELICAL CHRISTIAN!
 Quoting: Brie217


wow thanx for thebump

i figured this was dead and buried.

the killer kristians here certainly don't wanna hear about it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222


This is a very sad thing to me as these Christians do not or will not realize that they are being used by Satan.
 Quoting: Brie217


they all pay to be here. same posts every time.

you wanna be a genocidal paychopath OK. but to shove it under the cross of Christ makes me upset. and then they pretend to not understand why people hate them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1551222


Not every Christian does this, I don't.
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As much as I agree, his name is Chuck.

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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I believe he died on the cross for my sins and rose again.

And, I agree with EVERYTHING Chuck Baldwin just said. The average Christian is so wrapped up in the flag and false patriotism that it is a form of idolatry.

They are being played by TPTB and don't even know it.

For crying outloud. GWB wasn't a Christian. It was a planned hoax to get dupe gullible Christians. All he had to do was make a couple statements about Jesus and claim to be against abortion and the Church ate it up.

Christians should know better. America, with their help, is the biggest source of evil on the planet right now.
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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
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Posted on Sep 15, 2011

I’ve been an evangelical Christian since I was a child. I’ve been
in the Gospel ministry all of my adult life. I attended two
evangelical Christian colleges, received honorary degrees from two
others, and taught and preached in several others. I’ve attended
many of the largest evangelical pastors’ gatherings and have been
privileged to speak at Christian gatherings--large and small--all over
America. I have been part of the inner workings of evangelical
ministry for nearly 40 years. I think I learned a thing or two about
evangelical/fundamentalist Christianity in America. And I’m here to
tell you: I don’t like what I see happening these days!

Let’s get this straight right out of the gate: nothing touched by
man can be perfect, because none of us is perfect. There is no perfect
church, perfect school, perfect mission board, perfect Sunday School
class, perfect pastor, perfect deacon, or perfect Christian. Until the
afterlife, we are all yet encased in Adamic flesh, complete with human
weaknesses and imperfections. And only the Pharisaical among us are
too proud to admit it.


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Chuck is writing total nonsense. If true, we can't know God's plan and there is no grace...God's presence in this life.

Jesus established one Church which He promised Satan would
not take down (Matthew 16:18). He also named Peter, Jesus made Peter head of His Church in that verse.

One Lord, one faith, one baptism (Eph 4:5) says Scripture so there is need of only one Church. Jesus established the Roman Catholic Church, the Remnant is Roman Catholic.

Give your "yes" to God. He's going to show you personally. He loves us all this much.
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JOHN 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
Because of private interpretation of Scripture which is heresy
Evangelicals think the Temple is going to be rebuilt and such
nonsense. Maybe, the reason Evangelicals push war?

In the New Covenant, the "temple" is Christ's Church, the
Roman Catholic Church. There is the fullness of grace, no
where else.

Heresy = division and error.ohyeah
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Fucking A they are.
It is time for the utter and complete destruction of TeaBaggery and Conservatism.
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Re: Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers? by Chuck Baldwin
Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior. I believe he died on the cross for my sins and rose again.

And, I agree with EVERYTHING Chuck Baldwin just said. The average Christian is so wrapped up in the flag and false patriotism that it is a form of idolatry.

They are being played by TPTB and don't even know it.

For crying outloud. GWB wasn't a Christian. It was a planned hoax to get dupe gullible Christians. All he had to do was make a couple statements about Jesus and claim to be against abortion and the Church ate it up.

Christians should know better. America, with their help, is the biggest source of evil on the planet right now.
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i'm deathly afraid of these so-called christians.

they're death on a fascist flag waving cross.

flag waver
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:pin:
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Atheism never made any atheist happy.

"The way of faith gives us more than the way of philosophical thought: it gives us God, near to us as a person, who loves us and deals with us mercifully, giving us that security which human knowledge cannot give. But the way of faith is dark"

Edith Stein means by "dark" we have to trust, not seeing
always...the true meaning of faith. rose





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