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Has not watching tv changed you?

 
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2011 08:16 AM
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Re: Has not watching tv changed you?
Exactly.

The "no TV-tards" just switched to the internet. Same thing.

I have TV, internet, Ham radio, CB, walkie-talkies, etc etc.

The more ways of getting info and being able to communicate when the need arises, the better.

Not having a tv is not enlightening you in anyway. You are either awake, or you are not.

Shit, you could say the same thing about books. "Programming". But I am not tossing out my library, either.

Just my 2cents.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554363


Nonsense.

Comparing TV with reading does not even rise to the level of apples and oranges.

They are not even remotely similar.

You are just justifying your inability to stop watching TV.

Quit making excuses and give it up.

It won't take long for the benefits to become clear.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1541888


Sorry, but I have done without tv for over a year at a time. No benefit.

There is a huge difference between 'done without it for a year at a time' and 'giving it up'. Being busy at work and not having spare time is not the same as recognizing it as the evil it is and finding better things to do with your spare time.

No desire to get rid of it. I enjoy it. I get 900 channels from all over the world. It's interesting to see what other countries have on

Addicts enjoy heroin, too. They really enjoy shooting up. No surprises here; of course you enjoy it; if nobody enjoyed it they couldn't use it to numb your mind and brainwash you. And yes, anyone defending this garbage is brainwashed.Naturally you will insist you are not, yet you cannot stop watching it.

Not giving it up, or my radios or telephone. No desire to live like Little House on the Prairie. Or my books.

No one is suggesting you give up your radio and telephone, or live like Little House on the Prairie. This remark is akin to me urging you to quit smoiking, and you saying, "Nope, no desire to quit. Not gonna quit trimming my fingernails or using a microwave, either."

What you do is up to you, though.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554363


And what you do is also up to you. But millions of hypnotized Mind Slaves glued to their Idiot Boxes must and will have an affect on the planet I am forced to share with them.

And so I am reduced to trying to help them see how harmful this media is to their minds and their spirits.

Ubsurprisingly, this is a daunting and thankless task.

People just love their opiate so much!
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09/18/2011 09:19 AM
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Re: Has not watching tv changed you?
I'm a father of 7

Nobody cared or even knew who Oprah was or what she did or where she went as a example in my household.

Completely oblivious !

Change.. heck yes !

Amen !

P.S. I have a 50" with Cerwin Vega/ JVC surround sound sys in the living room too. DVD night is becoming passe we tend to mock movies before we even watch them wondering how crappy this movie will be and end up watching old classics like Shawn of the Dead, V and the likes.

Sadly in my area in the last 5 or 6 years since we dumped cable then the rabbit ears I think I might have come across one other person(family) who turned off the tube. In my line of work I speak to people daily.


Cheers!
IRQ_1

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09/18/2011 09:50 AM
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Interesting point RE: 'no TV-tards'.

I still like to know what's going on in the world but find myself taking more and more breaks from any communication with the outside world on current events - and not missing it. If something goes on, I'll hear about it at work or when I have time to visit GLP.

As a family who is not spread out all over the country with no real need to communicate with the world, we rely more on each other. We know that there is radiation in the air. We know earthquakes, tsunamis, hurricanes, floods and volcanos are striking. We know our water, food and air is poisoned. We know the economy is in the toilet, etc. We have decided to fear not, prep physically, mentally and spiritually; we'll take what is handed us in stride and live to the fullest while we can be it a day or a century. We love and respect each other more, take charge of our responsibilities, ie, health, integrity, finance, etc, and we play harder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1510904


I worked for years doing shifts, going around the clock. I never watched any tv as I was either working or sleeping or getting myself some food.

Now, I take it easy, watch what I want, when I want. Can always find something interesting with 900 + channels. If not, I can get on my Ham radio or CB and have some fun there.

But just try getting a "no tv-tard" off the computer. You can't. And they think they freed themselves. It's funny.

It's like an alcoholic trading in whiskey for beer, and telling everyone they are off the sauce; and then looking down on whiskey drinkers.

Can't make this shit up. Delusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1554363


There is a pretty big difference between sitting on a couch having programming shoved AT YOU as opposed to sitting on a computer SEEKING INFORMATION FOR YOU.

The main difference is rather or not the person is seeking information. Most tv-tards are not, most internet-tards are not. When one is seeking truth the internet is obviously a much better source for info in that it doesn't PUSH to you but you choose what to consume.

Does that which they consume equal truth? Not my place to say. But I know they have a better chance of finding truth online then pre-programmed TV.
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Re: Has not watching tv changed you?
There is a pretty big difference between sitting on a couch having programming shoved AT YOU as opposed to sitting on a computer SEEKING INFORMATION FOR YOU.

The main difference is rather or not the person is seeking information. Most tv-tards are not, most internet-tards are not. When one is seeking truth the internet is obviously a much better source for info in that it doesn't PUSH to you but you choose what to consume.

Does that which they consume equal truth? Not my place to say. But I know they have a better chance of finding truth online then pre-programmed TV.
 Quoting: IRQ_1


The bolded part above makes all the difference.

People watching TV are not using their minds; TV is a mean of achieving the direct opposite: turning their minds off. Numbing themselves with pre-digested ideas and mindless entertainment.

That is its primary evil. It literally puts you into a hypnotic state. There is a mountain of evidence that this is so; it is beyond dispute that TV changes your brainwave pattern.

Now, who do you think is very eager to have you in this hypnotic state? Could it be the same government who gave people money so they could buy themselves a digital TV?

Even if that point of view is just alarmist (after all, we are on a conspiracy website!) the inescapable fact remains that TV affects the minds of those who watch it in ways that radio or print media do not.

The main difference is that reading forces the reader to use his own mind. His mind must work to decipher the written language into meaningful concepts. When this process is going on, he will be actively evaluating the ideas being presented, rather than turning into a slack-jawed, drooling receptacle for whatever information the programmer chooses to deliver.

Which is likelier to occur: A man who is reading/processing abstractions will read a lie or an attempt at propaganda and reject it? Or the man hypnotically watching TV will have that same lie presented on a 'news channel' and reject it?

And for those who will say, "TV can't affect me because I'm 'awake'!", you overlook a rather glaring fact.

You don't live in a vacuum. For every person who can conceivably watch TV without harm there are literally millions who cannot.

I'm willing to do without it entirely if it means that my less aware neighbors will no longer have their minds destroyed by it.

Aren't you?
IRQ_1

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09/18/2011 10:40 AM
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Re: Has not watching tv changed you?
There is a pretty big difference between sitting on a couch having programming shoved AT YOU as opposed to sitting on a computer SEEKING INFORMATION FOR YOU.

The main difference is rather or not the person is seeking information. Most tv-tards are not, most internet-tards are not. When one is seeking truth the internet is obviously a much better source for info in that it doesn't PUSH to you but you choose what to consume.

Does that which they consume equal truth? Not my place to say. But I know they have a better chance of finding truth online then pre-programmed TV.
 Quoting: IRQ_1


The bolded part above makes all the difference.

People watching TV are not using their minds; TV is a mean of achieving the direct opposite: turning their minds off. Numbing themselves with pre-digested ideas and mindless entertainment.

That is its primary evil. It literally puts you into a hypnotic state. There is a mountain of evidence that this is so; it is beyond dispute that TV changes your brainwave pattern.

Now, who do you think is very eager to have you in this hypnotic state? Could it be the same government who gave people money so they could buy themselves a digital TV?

Even if that point of view is just alarmist (after all, we are on a conspiracy website!) the inescapable fact remains that TV affects the minds of those who watch it in ways that radio or print media do not.

The main difference is that reading forces the reader to use his own mind. His mind must work to decipher the written language into meaningful concepts. When this process is going on, he will be actively evaluating the ideas being presented, rather than turning into a slack-jawed, drooling receptacle for whatever information the programmer chooses to deliver.

Which is likelier to occur: A man who is reading/processing abstractions will read a lie or an attempt at propaganda and reject it? Or the man hypnotically watching TV will have that same lie presented on a 'news channel' and reject it?

And for those who will say, "TV can't affect me because I'm 'awake'!", you overlook a rather glaring fact.

You don't live in a vacuum. For every person who can conceivably watch TV without harm there are literally millions who cannot.

I'm willing to do without it entirely if it means that my less aware neighbors will no longer have their minds destroyed by it.

Aren't you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1541888




My point was to counter AC1554363's argument that there is no difference between TV watchers and Internet users. With the exception of the Facebook crowd there is one hell of a difference.

Your post points that out quite nicely.

Agreed. The hypnotic and subliminal effects of all television viewing is a thread in itself.

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Last Edited by IRQ_1 on 09/18/2011 10:41 AM
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