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No religion has any right to dictate public policy. Until you can prove that your god exists, religious beliefs are irrelevant to this discussion. Discrimination is wrong and must not be enshrined in law.
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God created Adam and Eve, NOT ADAM and ADAM or EVE and EVE. The One Main Reason for this is because you need both sexes to PRODUCE. Two men cannot produce?? Two women cannot produce?? This is just common sense. Also in order for a little boy to become a REAL MAN, he must have a MALE FATHER in the home to help raise him, the same goes for a Proper little girl, a FEMALE MOTHER figure. Now don't throw in marriage issues in this topic, these are just the facts. A child who is blessed to be raised by TWO PARENTS OF OPPOSITE SEX IN THE HOUSE HOLD, will grow up PROPERALLY. Ex: My nephew's father took off when he was a baby. (didn't want to deal with being a dad), so my nephew grew up 18 years in an ALL WOMAN HOUSEHOLD. Now he is Feminane and just announced he's gay???? There are always problems when Both parents of the opposite sex don't step up to the plate to raise the children. Sorry for my spelling, it's early.
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I can't wait for gay marriage, being a divorce lawyer, and knowing that gays are much more promiscuous/unfaithful than straights--businss will be good dividing queers assets in infidelity-based divorce proceedings.
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I see your point but if you made divorce illegal, I think there would be a lot more "accidental" deaths. I mean if you don't leave people any other way out...
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well that's the bitch of it my friend... an oath under god in front of witnesses. Give marriage meaning if you want to deny others.
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I can't wait for gay marriage, being a divorce lawyer, and knowing that gays are much more promiscuous/unfaithful than straights--businss will be good dividing queers assets in infidelity-based divorce proceedings.
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omg... and lesbians.. the second date involves a moving truck.
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I wonder what will follow if they legalize same sex marriage. Human animal marriage?
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What a stupid thing to say. Marriage is a contract and only human adults can enter into contract. Animals and children cannot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


Marriage
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

You forgot part of the definition, only a huiman man and woman can enter into a marriage contract.

But if first we omit the man/woman part

what to stop us from omitting the human part?

then the adult part?

What about plants..can I marry a tomato? Or a rock? Some weirdos have been buried with their cars, were that married to it?

Once we start down the slippery slope we lose control. Where will we stop?
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No religion has any right to dictate public policy. Until you can prove that your god exists, religious beliefs are irrelevant to this discussion. Discrimination is wrong and must not be enshrined in law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


God created Adam and Eve, NOT ADAM and ADAM or EVE and EVE. The One Main Reason for this is because you need both sexes to PRODUCE. Two men cannot produce?? Two women cannot produce?? This is just common sense. Also in order for a little boy to become a REAL MAN, he must have a MALE FATHER in the home to help raise him, the same goes for a Proper little girl, a FEMALE MOTHER figure. Now don't throw in marriage issues in this topic, these are just the facts. A child who is blessed to be raised by TWO PARENTS OF OPPOSITE SEX IN THE HOUSE HOLD, will grow up PROPERALLY. Ex: My nephew's father took off when he was a baby. (didn't want to deal with being a dad), so my nephew grew up 18 years in an ALL WOMAN HOUSEHOLD. Now he is Feminane and just announced he's gay???? There are always problems when Both parents of the opposite sex don't step up to the plate to raise the children. Sorry for my spelling, it's early.
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It takes love to raise a child and a village, not a penis and vagina.
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It takes love to raise a child and a village, not a penis and vagina.
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We don't have single faceted education, we don't teach kids only math or only spelling, we provide a balanced education for them.

The other aspects of child rearing, the social aspects need to have balance too. That is one of the huge pitfalls of single parent families, whether through divorce or choice of an unwed motherhood. But a child in a single parent family has 1/2 of the balance, a child with 2 moms or 2 dads gets a double dose of one side, twice as unballanced. Well, not exaclty because one partner might have normal traits for his gender while the other has opposite traits. But I still see it as more unballanced than a mom/dad/child relationship
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No religion has any right to dictate public policy. Until you can prove that your god exists, religious beliefs are irrelevant to this discussion. Discrimination is wrong and must not be enshrined in law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


God created Adam and Eve, NOT ADAM and ADAM or EVE and EVE. The One Main Reason for this is because you need both sexes to PRODUCE. Two men cannot produce?? Two women cannot produce?? This is just common sense. Also in order for a little boy to become a REAL MAN, he must have a MALE FATHER in the home to help raise him, the same goes for a Proper little girl, a FEMALE MOTHER figure. Now don't throw in marriage issues in this topic, these are just the facts. A child who is blessed to be raised by TWO PARENTS OF OPPOSITE SEX IN THE HOUSE HOLD, will grow up PROPERALLY. Ex: My nephew's father took off when he was a baby. (didn't want to deal with being a dad), so my nephew grew up 18 years in an ALL WOMAN HOUSEHOLD. Now he is Feminane and just announced he's gay???? There are always problems when Both parents of the opposite sex don't step up to the plate to raise the children. Sorry for my spelling, it's early.
 Quoting: JenJen


The Bible is merely ancient mythology and is irrelevant to modern public policy discussions. If you don't like gay marriage then don't marry one.
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I wonder what will follow if they legalize same sex marriage. Human animal marriage?
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What a stupid thing to say. Marriage is a contract and only human adults can enter into contract. Animals and children cannot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


Marriage
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

You forgot part of the definition, only a huiman man and woman can enter into a marriage contract.

But if first we omit the man/woman part

what to stop us from omitting the human part?

then the adult part?

What about plants..can I marry a tomato? Or a rock? Some weirdos have been buried with their cars, were that married to it?

Once we start down the slippery slope we lose control. Where will we stop?
 Quoting: Real list


Pardon my french, but are you a fucking idiot... A rock.. wtf.. LOL.. get over yourself... why don't you spend a little bit more time worrying about your own life, then trying to control mine.
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I wonder what will follow if they legalize same sex marriage. Human animal marriage?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555184


What a stupid thing to say. Marriage is a contract and only human adults can enter into contract. Animals and children cannot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


Marriage
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

You forgot part of the definition, only a huiman man and woman can enter into a marriage contract.

But if first we omit the man/woman part

what to stop us from omitting the human part?

then the adult part?

What about plants..can I marry a tomato? Or a rock? Some weirdos have been buried with their cars, were that married to it?

Once we start down the slippery slope we lose control. Where will we stop?
 Quoting: Real list


There is no slippery slope. Only adult humans may enter into legal contract, and marriage is a legal contract. You do realize the "slippery slope" argument is a logical fallacy, don't you?
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It takes love to raise a child and a village, not a penis and vagina.
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We don't have single faceted education, we don't teach kids only math or only spelling, we provide a balanced education for them.

The other aspects of child rearing, the social aspects need to have balance too. That is one of the huge pitfalls of single parent families, whether through divorce or choice of an unwed motherhood. But a child in a single parent family has 1/2 of the balance, a child with 2 moms or 2 dads gets a double dose of one side, twice as unballanced. Well, not exaclty because one partner might have normal traits for his gender while the other has opposite traits. But I still see it as more unballanced than a mom/dad/child relationship
 Quoting: Real list


That is not true at all. One in either sex is more masculine and one more fem. Mom/Dad/Child Relationship sure, in a perfect world, but this is far from perfect. Everyone needs to be loved. It does not matter if its a single mom, a single dad, a violent straight couple, two men, two women, or a grandmother. Teach children love, respect, and compassion and this world would be far better than it is today.

God does not care, he teaches love, so you claim. Not hate and bigotry.
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government has no business acknowledging marriage - it is an issue of separation of church and state

it is a religious sacrament and should be treated as such

we should have a official contract two people can enter to combine their affairs - including a delusional clause that will eliminate divorce court
explaining supply & demand to a socialist is like explaining gravity to a rock.
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government has no business acknowledging marriage - it is an issue of separation of church and state

it is a religious sacrament and should be treated as such

we should have a official contract two people can enter to combine their affairs - including a delusional clause that will eliminate divorce court
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sounds good to me.
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I wonder what will follow if they legalize same sex marriage. Human animal marriage?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555184


What a stupid thing to say. Marriage is a contract and only human adults can enter into contract. Animals and children cannot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


Marriage
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

You forgot part of the definition, only a huiman man and woman can enter into a marriage contract.

But if first we omit the man/woman part

what to stop us from omitting the human part?

then the adult part?

What about plants..can I marry a tomato? Or a rock? Some weirdos have been buried with their cars, were that married to it?

Once we start down the slippery slope we lose control. Where will we stop?
 Quoting: Real list


Pardon my french, but are you a fucking idiot... A rock.. wtf.. LOL.. get over yourself... why don't you spend a little bit more time worrying about your own life, then trying to control mine.
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Uwe Mitzscherlich, a 39-year-old postman who lives in Germany, has married his cat, whose name is Cecilia and is 15 years old. This is probably the weirdest marriage Iíve heard of since the guy married the pillow. Or the woman married the Eiffel Tower. Apparently, if it exists, people will marry it. [link to www.thefrisky.com]

Am I the fucking idiot, or am I the only sane person left in the world?

The things I allude to are already happening. Close your eyes if you like, but that will not u-ring the bell.

They are already happening, the quest now is to legalize and 'accept' it.
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How will society benefit if gay marriage is allowed?
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What a stupid thing to say. Marriage is a contract and only human adults can enter into contract. Animals and children cannot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


Marriage
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

You forgot part of the definition, only a huiman man and woman can enter into a marriage contract.

But if first we omit the man/woman part

what to stop us from omitting the human part?

then the adult part?

What about plants..can I marry a tomato? Or a rock? Some weirdos have been buried with their cars, were that married to it?

Once we start down the slippery slope we lose control. Where will we stop?
 Quoting: Real list


Pardon my french, but are you a fucking idiot... A rock.. wtf.. LOL.. get over yourself... why don't you spend a little bit more time worrying about your own life, then trying to control mine.
 Quoting: Lecaro


Uwe Mitzscherlich, a 39-year-old postman who lives in Germany, has married his cat, whose name is Cecilia and is 15 years old. This is probably the weirdest marriage Iíve heard of since the guy married the pillow. Or the woman married the Eiffel Tower. Apparently, if it exists, people will marry it. [link to www.thefrisky.com]

Am I the fucking idiot, or am I the only sane person left in the world?

The things I allude to are already happening. Close your eyes if you like, but that will not u-ring the bell.

They are already happening, the quest now is to legalize and 'accept' it.
 Quoting: Real list


well in the words of Sheryl

Do you really want to rain on some lonely persons parade who felt so alone, they needed to marry a tower? Thats mean.
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How will society benefit if gay marriage is allowed?
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the bitching stops.
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I wonder what will follow if they legalize same sex marriage. Human animal marriage?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555184


What a stupid thing to say. Marriage is a contract and only human adults can enter into contract. Animals and children cannot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


Marriage
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

You forgot part of the definition, only a huiman man and woman can enter into a marriage contract.

But if first we omit the man/woman part

what to stop us from omitting the human part?

then the adult part?

What about plants..can I marry a tomato? Or a rock? Some weirdos have been buried with their cars, were that married to it?

Once we start down the slippery slope we lose control. Where will we stop?
 Quoting: Real list


There is no slippery slope. Only adult humans may enter into legal contract, and marriage is a legal contract. You do realize the "slippery slope" argument is a logical fallacy, don't you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


A 'slippery slope' arguement can ba a falacy or legitimate depending on how extreme the examples offered. I said marry a rock, a tad extreme considering one man married his pillow.

You use the slippery slope arguement when you decide to not give to a panhandler and encourage him to repeat his behavior, you believe he will return later to ask for more money.

Any form of debate can be made false by taking it to ridiculous extremes.

I apologize for having done that in my post
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How will society benefit if gay marriage is allowed?
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upswing in retail from gift registry... all those cousins weddings that were attended and gifts bestowed, now its time to celebrate our life. HEHEHHE
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Marriage
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

You forgot part of the definition, only a huiman man and woman can enter into a marriage contract.

But if first we omit the man/woman part

what to stop us from omitting the human part?

then the adult part?

What about plants..can I marry a tomato? Or a rock? Some weirdos have been buried with their cars, were that married to it?

Once we start down the slippery slope we lose control. Where will we stop?
 Quoting: Real list


Pardon my french, but are you a fucking idiot... A rock.. wtf.. LOL.. get over yourself... why don't you spend a little bit more time worrying about your own life, then trying to control mine.
 Quoting: Lecaro


Uwe Mitzscherlich, a 39-year-old postman who lives in Germany, has married his cat, whose name is Cecilia and is 15 years old. This is probably the weirdest marriage Iíve heard of since the guy married the pillow. Or the woman married the Eiffel Tower. Apparently, if it exists, people will marry it. [link to www.thefrisky.com]

Am I the fucking idiot, or am I the only sane person left in the world?

The things I allude to are already happening. Close your eyes if you like, but that will not u-ring the bell.

They are already happening, the quest now is to legalize and 'accept' it.
 Quoting: Real list


well in the words of Sheryl

Do you really want to rain on some lonely persons parade who felt so alone, they needed to marry a tower? Thats mean.
 Quoting: Lecaro


I assume you change to arguement to...if if makes a person happy they should be allowed to...what? Anything they want?

Another slippery slope
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Pardon my french, but are you a fucking idiot... A rock.. wtf.. LOL.. get over yourself... why don't you spend a little bit more time worrying about your own life, then trying to control mine.
 Quoting: Lecaro


Uwe Mitzscherlich, a 39-year-old postman who lives in Germany, has married his cat, whose name is Cecilia and is 15 years old. This is probably the weirdest marriage Iíve heard of since the guy married the pillow. Or the woman married the Eiffel Tower. Apparently, if it exists, people will marry it. [link to www.thefrisky.com]

Am I the fucking idiot, or am I the only sane person left in the world?

The things I allude to are already happening. Close your eyes if you like, but that will not u-ring the bell.

They are already happening, the quest now is to legalize and 'accept' it.
 Quoting: Real list


well in the words of Sheryl

Do you really want to rain on some lonely persons parade who felt so alone, they needed to marry a tower? Thats mean.
 Quoting: Lecaro


I assume you change to arguement to...if if makes a person happy they should be allowed to...what? Anything they want?

Another slippery slope
 Quoting: Real list


Allowing one religion to define our country that is the land of many... now there is some lubed up cucumber. or a slippery slope.
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No religion has any right to dictate public policy. Until you can prove that your god exists, religious beliefs are irrelevant to this discussion. Discrimination is wrong and must not be enshrined in law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


It takes love to raise a child and a village, not a penis and vagina.
 Quoting: JenJen


This kind of thinking is what is turning American males into limp wristed metrosexuals. They need balance. Love AND discipline which comes from a strong male role model. They need to be allowed to fail and pick themselves up. To get bumps and bruises. To be shown that hard work is good and rewarding. And to have a spine and be self sufficient.

Realizing this is a "gay marriage" thread, it has been brought out elsewhere here that a male role model is imperative for a childís success and development. Society has made it too easy and convenient for the fathers to bail or mother to walk away because of whatever selfish reason. And it has made it practically criminal for a child to experience any ills in this world.

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BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It is time for the utter and complete destruction of TeaBaggery and Conservatism.
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Uwe Mitzscherlich, a 39-year-old postman who lives in Germany, has married his cat, whose name is Cecilia and is 15 years old. This is probably the weirdest marriage Iíve heard of since the guy married the pillow. Or the woman married the Eiffel Tower. Apparently, if it exists, people will marry it. [link to www.thefrisky.com]

Am I the fucking idiot, or am I the only sane person left in the world?

The things I allude to are already happening. Close your eyes if you like, but that will not u-ring the bell.

They are already happening, the quest now is to legalize and 'accept' it.
 Quoting: Real list


well in the words of Sheryl

Do you really want to rain on some lonely persons parade who felt so alone, they needed to marry a tower? Thats mean.
 Quoting: Lecaro


I assume you change to arguement to...if if makes a person happy they should be allowed to...what? Anything they want?

Another slippery slope
 Quoting: Real list


Allowing one religion to define our country that is the land of many... now there is some lubed up cucumber. or a slippery slope.
 Quoting: Lecaro


I did not cite religion, it is not necessary for this topic.

marriage is a specialzed legal contract with defined terms, as is a business partnership

[link to legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com]
Partnership

An association of two or more persons engaged in a business enterprise in which the profits and losses are shared proportionally. The legal definition of a partnership is generally stated as "an association of two or more persons to carry on as co-owners a business for profit" (Revised Uniform Partnership Act § 101 [1994]).

Marriage

The legal status, condition, or relationship that results from a contract by which one man and one woman, who have the capacity to enter into such an agreement, mutually promise to live together in the relationship of Husband and Wife in law for life, or until the legal termination of the relationship

BTW, many people today 'write' their own vows, whch may or may not include the phrase 'til death do we part'

Many people today have terms spelling out a divorce stlllement in advance.. pre-nups.

Neither of these conditions changes the basic contract of two people, a man and a woman by definition, living and doing business as a single entity.
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"I believe gay marriage should be between a man and a women."

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Let GAYS float... Or change GRAVITY!
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No religion has any right to dictate public policy. Until you can prove that your god exists, religious beliefs are irrelevant to this discussion. Discrimination is wrong and must not be enshrined in law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


It takes love to raise a child and a village, not a penis and vagina.
 Quoting: JenJen


This kind of thinking is what is turning American males into limp wristed metrosexuals. They need balance. Love AND discipline which comes from a strong male role model. They need to be allowed to fail and pick themselves up. To get bumps and bruises. To be shown that hard work is good and rewarding. And to have a spine and be self sufficient.

Realizing this is a "gay marriage" thread, it has been brought out elsewhere here that a male role model is imperative for a childís success and development. Society has made it too easy and convenient for the fathers to bail or mother to walk away because of whatever selfish reason. And it has made it practically criminal for a child to experience any ills in this world.

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 Quoting: Lecaro


YES

When our kids were young my wife and I argued heatedly about discipline and appropriate rules for them. A counselor told us that is was good for the kids to 'play' us, to go to the one they thought suited their immediate needs better. Maybe I would let them visit friends and she would give them snacks. Whatever. Anyway she said the kids learned a lesson on how to get what they need, a talent that would serve them in adulthood.

I didn't completely agree, but it is a point that illustrates balance.

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No religion has any right to dictate public policy. Until you can prove that your god exists, religious beliefs are irrelevant to this discussion. Discrimination is wrong and must not be enshrined in law.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1138061


It takes love to raise a child and a village, not a penis and vagina.
 Quoting: JenJen


This kind of thinking is what is turning American males into limp wristed metrosexuals. They need balance. Love AND discipline which comes from a strong male role model. They need to be allowed to fail and pick themselves up. To get bumps and bruises. To be shown that hard work is good and rewarding. And to have a spine and be self sufficient.

Realizing this is a "gay marriage" thread, it has been brought out elsewhere here that a male role model is imperative for a childís success and development. Society has made it too easy and convenient for the fathers to bail or mother to walk away because of whatever selfish reason. And it has made it practically criminal for a child to experience any ills in this world.

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Ill agree with the you cannot ill a child and that fathers can walk out... but your limp wristed comment is well... telling... hehehe.. taboo for you ?
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well in the words of Sheryl

Do you really want to rain on some lonely persons parade who felt so alone, they needed to marry a tower? Thats mean.
 Quoting: Lecaro


I assume you change to arguement to...if if makes a person happy they should be allowed to...what? Anything they want?

Another slippery slope
 Quoting: Real list


Allowing one religion to define our country that is the land of many... now there is some lubed up cucumber. or a slippery slope.
 Quoting: Lecaro


I did not cite religion, it is not necessary for this topic.

marriage is a specialzed legal contract with defined terms, as is a business partnership

[link to legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com]
Partnership

An association of two or more persons engaged in a business enterprise in which the profits and losses are shared proportionally. The legal definition of a partnership is generally stated as "an association of two or more persons to carry on as co-owners a business for profit" (Revised Uniform Partnership Act § 101 [1994]).

Marriage

The legal status, condition, or relationship that results from a contract by which one man and one woman, who have the capacity to enter into such an agreement, mutually promise to live together in the relationship of Husband and Wife in law for life, or until the legal termination of the relationship

BTW, many people today 'write' their own vows, whch may or may not include the phrase 'til death do we part'

Many people today have terms spelling out a divorce stlllement in advance.. pre-nups.

Neither of these conditions changes the basic contract of two people, a man and a woman by definition, living and doing business as a single entity.
 Quoting: Real list


pre-nups --- lol my point exactly.. its not taken seriously... there ya go... the bail out clause for when the shit gets to thick its easier to let go... how convenient.. cake and eat it too...
hatakah

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09/18/2011 11:31 AM
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Re: *****LET GAYS MARRY or CHANGE Marriage***********
government has no business acknowledging marriage - it is an issue of separation of church and state

it is a religious sacrament and should be treated as such

we should have a official contract two people can enter to combine their affairs - including a delusional clause that will eliminate divorce court
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


sounds good to me.
 Quoting: Lecaro


^THIS^

Let's add polygamy and polyamory while we're at it.
Keep personal commitments personal and legal/financial commitments separate,

Last Edited by hatakah on 09/18/2011 11:34 AM





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