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*****LET GAYS MARRY or CHANGE Marriage***********

 
Anonymous Coward
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09/18/2011 07:39 PM
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I fully agree that marriage should be a "holy union" and treated as such. As many so-called "Christians" as non-believers make up the percentage of divorces in this country and that is shameful.

However, to the degree that gays should be allowed to marry...read your history. The fall of EVERY great nation from Babylon to Rome has shortly been preceded by the resounding acceptance of homosexuality in their society and the sacrifice of children (abortion, as it is called today). America is already treading dangerously on thin ice, that would be the nail in the coffin, if you ask me.

We need to return marriage to the sanctity intended for it and not completely throw what's left of it under the bus by sanctioning the unnatural act of homosexuality as a qualifier.

hf
 Quoting: ^Watcher^

You need to have a bible shoved up your ass and a splintery cross up your snatch, closet-dyke.
Sol-Magmatard 26

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09/18/2011 09:19 PM
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Re: *****LET GAYS MARRY or CHANGE Marriage***********
ok I wade into this issue.

First let's get some premises out of the way.

1) I am gay
2) I am Chrisitan
3) I am fiscally conservative
4) I am a constitutionalist.
5) I am a reformist.

Ok that said.

I Think that the 2 aspects of Marriage need to be properly separated into religious and social aspects.

Marriage should remain a religious institution and abide by the historic meaning of marriage (1 man / 1 woman)

Civil Unions should be the social institution and should be for any 1 person to enter into with another person (not people)

Gov't should stay out of Marriage, likewise religious institutions should stay out of Civil Unions.
 Quoting: Sol-Magmatard 26


A rational, thoughful post

Refreshing...thanks.

The civil union aspect should be well defined as to

eligible participants (you say 2 adults, fine)

Participants status in regard to blood family
(do they take precidence over parents and sibs as in conventionial marriage?)

Maybe designate one as 'head of household'

Other details, but all manageable.

Do you think Sol-Magmatard, that a rational approach will satisfy all in the homosexual commumity? I personally belive that for many this is a matter of forcing acceptance for the lifestyle on the larger society. You know morality and attitudes cannot be legislated or mandated.
 Quoting: Real list


Nothing will ever satisfy all of the Gay community, as the old adage goes so can please some of the people some of the time but not all of the people all of the time, but I do believe it would appease most.
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Lecaro  (OP)

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09/19/2011 06:11 AM
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Re: *****LET GAYS MARRY or CHANGE Marriage***********
One option not covered is (slightly in jest)

Let homosexuals marry

AND

Make divorce illegal

We all should SUFFER equally..lol
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HEHHEHE
Mindlouka
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09/19/2011 07:14 AM
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Re: *****LET GAYS MARRY or CHANGE Marriage***********
I fully agree that marriage should be a "holy union" and treated as such. As many so-called "Christians" as non-believers make up the percentage of divorces in this country and that is shameful.

However, to the degree that gays should be allowed to marry...read your history. The fall of EVERY great nation from Babylon to Rome has shortly been preceded by the resounding acceptance of homosexuality in their society and the sacrifice of children (abortion, as it is called today). America is already treading dangerously on thin ice, that would be the nail in the coffin, if you ask me.

We need to return marriage to the sanctity intended for it and not completely throw what's left of it under the bus by sanctioning the unnatural act of homosexuality as a qualifier.

hf
 Quoting: ^Watcher^

Then make divorce ILLEGAL.. CAKE and eat it too...
 Quoting: Lecaro


I agree...then people might put a little more thought into their choice for a marriage partner if they know they are "stuck" with them for life. But going to the extreme and saying gay marriage should be allowed because of the state marriages are in today is going too far.

Just as going to church no more makes you a "Christian" than standing in a garage makes you a car, the same is true for gay marriage. Even if it is allowed, that doesn't make homosexuality an acceptable union in the eyes of The Only One who matters, God Himself.
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


Oh GOd...Your alien implants are still on... Marriage = Prison!!!!
What about FREEDOM people??? It's not because you are married,that will stop your partner from leaving you or cheating on you! Is that fair? Just to keep up appearences?!?!
I don't believe in marriage for all life. I believe in LOVE FOR ALL LIFE.That's wayyyy different.
Lecaro  (OP)

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09/19/2011 07:45 AM
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As OP, I am signing off... You Christian's really disappoint me with your views. You claim to spread love and acceptance yet, hate and fear seems to be more true. I hope you all get cancer.

I am finished with this post. When you are all looking up at us one day. I am going to piss on the ground. Good day.
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09/19/2011 11:19 PM
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So gays are as bad as sacrificing children... OMG what god do you serve? C _ R _ A _ Z _ omg.
 Quoting: Lecaro


One sin is no worse than the other, even down to what we might consider small sins like gossip. All need the forgiveness provided through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

That being said, re-read what I posted above...the fall of every great nation has taken place just after these two sins are widely accepted in their society. Not equating one with the other but merely stating a fact. When a nation ignores that fact, they do so to their own peril.
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


I agree with you, Watcher. It is not about bashing or hating gays. It is just a fact that increased homosexual behavior is a sign that the society is in peril.
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A plague to your home.
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My family and my home are covered with the blood of Jesus Christ. Your curse has no authority. May God humble you before Him so that you may know that He IS. Then may your heart be filled with His presence so that you know you are never alone and always loved dearly.
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09/20/2011 12:47 AM
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One sin is no worse than the other, even down to what we might consider small sins like gossip. All need the forgiveness provided through the sacrifice of Jesus Christ.

That being said, re-read what I posted above...the fall of every great nation has taken place just after these two sins are widely accepted in their society. Not equating one with the other but merely stating a fact. When a nation ignores that fact, they do so to their own peril.
 Quoting: ^Watcher^


I agree with you, Watcher. It is not about bashing or hating gays. It is just a fact that increased homosexual behavior is a sign that the society is in peril.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029592


A plague to your home.
 Quoting: Lecaro


My family and my home are covered with the blood of Jesus Christ. Your curse has no authority. May God humble you before Him so that you may know that He IS. Then may your heart be filled with His presence so that you know you are never alone and always loved dearly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1029592


LOL.. you stand so mighty hard nosed and poised to use a book as a shield for your own bigotry. FORGET YOU AND YOUR SPAWNS.

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