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*****LET GAYS MARRY or CHANGE Marriage***********

 
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I wonder what will follow if they legalize same sex marriage. Human animal marriage?
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What a stupid thing to say. Marriage is a contract and only human adults can enter into contract. Animals and children cannot.
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Marriage
the social institution under which a man and woman establish their decision to live as husband and wife by legal commitments, religious ceremonies, etc.
[link to dictionary.reference.com]

You forgot part of the definition, only a huiman man and woman can enter into a marriage contract.

But if first we omit the man/woman part

what to stop us from omitting the human part?

then the adult part?

What about plants..can I marry a tomato? Or a rock? Some weirdos have been buried with their cars, were that married to it?

Once we start down the slippery slope we lose control. Where will we stop?
 Quoting: Real list


There is no slippery slope. Only adult humans may enter into legal contract, and marriage is a legal contract. You do realize the "slippery slope" argument is a logical fallacy, don't you?
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I'd like to expand on this if I may. First the dictionary is not a religious work, (therefore this has nothing to do with religion)and the first point here is that gays are trying to change the def. of marriage and indeed have almost accomplished this. [link to www.slate.com] The REAL question is WHY they are so insistent on trying to force their way into a situation (by def. of the word) that they have no place in. I can only think of 2 reasons. #1 They are doing it to "feel normal" They could easily make up their own word that defines their "unions" but don't appear to be happy with that.
and so the fear of us hetero's in this scenario is where will they stop? After this is accomplished what else will they force down our throats (so to speak) in order to feel more main stream? Will the def. of "homosexual" one day come to mean a human old enough to select a life partner? Which of course means hetero's would be included in that.
You may see this as a far fetched fear, us hetero's do not.

Second is it really about marriage, or is it more about gov. benefits like social sec? If this is the case, it seems to me it would be faster to attempt to change the laws to be included rather than change definitions to fit in.
Sure. Porn makes total sense. You want to go rob a couple houses so we can smoke some porn?
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Lecaro  (OP)

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government has no business acknowledging marriage - it is an issue of separation of church and state

it is a religious sacrament and should be treated as such

we should have a official contract two people can enter to combine their affairs - including a delusional clause that will eliminate divorce court
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


sounds good to me.
 Quoting: Lecaro


^THIS^

Let's add polygamy and polyamory while we're at it.
Keep personal commitments personal and legal/financial commitments separate,
 Quoting: hatakah


Polygamy is odd.. and greedy.
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Pre-nups have no bearing on the gender of the participants.

I said earlier that a civil contract between any two poeple is fine, and even give that type of union a name, but I will never agree that it is ok to recognize a homosexual union as marriage.

They can have the same sort of joint property rights, shared financial obligations and sick-bed priledges as a married couple, but it is not marriage.

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government has no business acknowledging marriage - it is an issue of separation of church and state

it is a religious sacrament and should be treated as such

we should have a official contract two people can enter to combine their affairs - including a delusional clause that will eliminate divorce court
 Quoting: Mr. Predictor


sounds good to me.
 Quoting: Lecaro


^THIS^

Let's add polygamy and polyamory while we're at it.
Keep personal commitments personal and legal/financial commitments separate,
 Quoting: hatakah


Polygamy is odd.. and greedy.
 Quoting: Lecaro


Very judgmental for someone who says we should not judge homosexuals.

I do not refer to them as gay, warped i the opposite of straigh, the slang term for heterosexuals
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How will society benefit if gay marriage is allowed?
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upswing in retail from gift registry... all those cousins weddings that were attended and gifts bestowed, now its time to celebrate our life. HEHEHHE
 Quoting: Lecaro


Seriously? The justification for gay marriage is: It will stop a few people from bitching and "gift giving amongst about 1% of the population will increase?" That is not a satircal or rhetorical question. Am I understanding the answers correctly?
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Your reading too far into that. I see the wussification of American males. The feminization of them. Its not meant to be an anti gay...just my opinion...take it for that.
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Homosexuals can marry as long as they marry a person of the opposite sex.
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They do everyday. Check out the music department of your church and the choir!
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cruise
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How will society benefit if gay marriage is allowed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555227


upswing in retail from gift registry... all those cousins weddings that were attended and gifts bestowed, now its time to celebrate our life. HEHEHHE
 Quoting: Lecaro


Seriously? The justification for gay marriage is: It will stop a few people from bitching and "gift giving amongst about 1% of the population will increase?" That is not a satircal or rhetorical question. Am I understanding the answers correctly?
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How does m/f marriage benefit us?
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sounds good to me.
 Quoting: Lecaro


^THIS^

Let's add polygamy and polyamory while we're at it.
Keep personal commitments personal and legal/financial commitments separate,
 Quoting: hatakah


Polygamy is odd.. and greedy.
 Quoting: Lecaro


Very judgmental for someone who says we should not judge homosexuals.

I do not refer to them as gay, warped i the opposite of straigh, the slang term for heterosexuals
 Quoting: Real list


The male is the only one that seems to "benefit" in that situation. I bet the first wife, even though she smiles, hates life.
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Allowing one religion to define our country that is the land of many... now there is some lubed up cucumber. or a slippery slope.
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You mean like if we make Christmas (a religious holy-day) a FEDERAL hoilday, that someday all religious holy-days will become federal holidays?

And let's see, store display Christmas themes, towns and cities decorate with ANGELS and WREATHS, and EVERGREEN boughs, all having religious significance.

Yep, we must never allow ourselves to be defined by religion
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How will society benefit if gay marriage is allowed?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555227


upswing in retail from gift registry... all those cousins weddings that were attended and gifts bestowed, now its time to celebrate our life. HEHEHHE
 Quoting: Lecaro


Seriously? The justification for gay marriage is: It will stop a few people from bitching and "gift giving amongst about 1% of the population will increase?" That is not a satircal or rhetorical question. Am I understanding the answers correctly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555227


How does m/f marriage benefit us?
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I asked first :-)
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upswing in retail from gift registry... all those cousins weddings that were attended and gifts bestowed, now its time to celebrate our life. HEHEHHE
 Quoting: Lecaro


Seriously? The justification for gay marriage is: It will stop a few people from bitching and "gift giving amongst about 1% of the population will increase?" That is not a satircal or rhetorical question. Am I understanding the answers correctly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555227


How does m/f marriage benefit us?
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I asked first :-)
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It benefits both parties that commit to the marriage. And moms and dads who like to think their daughters can still wear white.
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^THIS^

Let's add polygamy and polyamory while we're at it.
Keep personal commitments personal and legal/financial commitments separate,
 Quoting: hatakah


Polygamy is odd.. and greedy.
 Quoting: Lecaro


Very judgmental for someone who says we should not judge homosexuals.

I do not refer to them as gay, warped i the opposite of straigh, the slang term for heterosexuals
 Quoting: Real list


The male is the only one that seems to "benefit" in that situation. I bet the first wife, even though she smiles, hates life.
 Quoting: Lecaro


You do speak from a position of knowledge I assume?

Ooh-oh, slight discrepancy

The polygamy is present mainly in these three different forms:

Polygyny - in this polygamy situation a man is going to have multiple wives at the same time.

Polyandry - This term is being used for the exact same thing as the polygyny except for the fact that this time the women is going to have at the same time more than one husband

Group Marriages - The group marriages represent a family unit where there are going to be multiple husbands and wives at the same time.


[link to www.polygamy.com] (from the athoritative source)

Even so, who are you to judge ANY lifestyle, especially if you claim others have no right to judge?
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Polygamy is odd.. and greedy.
 Quoting: Lecaro


Very judgmental for someone who says we should not judge homosexuals.

I do not refer to them as gay, warped i the opposite of straigh, the slang term for heterosexuals
 Quoting: Real list


The male is the only one that seems to "benefit" in that situation. I bet the first wife, even though she smiles, hates life.
 Quoting: Lecaro


You do speak from a position of knowledge I assume?

Ooh-oh, slight discrepancy

The polygamy is present mainly in these three different forms:

Polygyny - in this polygamy situation a man is going to have multiple wives at the same time.

Polyandry - This term is being used for the exact same thing as the polygyny except for the fact that this time the women is going to have at the same time more than one husband

Group Marriages - The group marriages represent a family unit where there are going to be multiple husbands and wives at the same time.


[link to www.polygamy.com] (from the athoritative source)

Even so, who are you to judge ANY lifestyle, especially if you claim others have no right to judge?
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lol.. i like you.. again.. the bitch of it is... it use to be a free country... lOL
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Seriously? The justification for gay marriage is: It will stop a few people from bitching and "gift giving amongst about 1% of the population will increase?" That is not a satircal or rhetorical question. Am I understanding the answers correctly?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555227


How does m/f marriage benefit us?
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I asked first :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555227


It benefits both parties that commit to the marriage. And moms and dads who like to think their daughters can still wear white.
 Quoting: Lecaro


How would redefining marriage to include homosexual union benefit SOCIETY?

I believe that was the original question
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Very judgmental for someone who says we should not judge homosexuals.

I do not refer to them as gay, warped i the opposite of straigh, the slang term for heterosexuals
 Quoting: Real list


The male is the only one that seems to "benefit" in that situation. I bet the first wife, even though she smiles, hates life.
 Quoting: Lecaro


You do speak from a position of knowledge I assume?

Ooh-oh, slight discrepancy

The polygamy is present mainly in these three different forms:

Polygyny - in this polygamy situation a man is going to have multiple wives at the same time.

Polyandry - This term is being used for the exact same thing as the polygyny except for the fact that this time the women is going to have at the same time more than one husband

Group Marriages - The group marriages represent a family unit where there are going to be multiple husbands and wives at the same time.


[link to www.polygamy.com] (from the athoritative source)

Even so, who are you to judge ANY lifestyle, especially if you claim others have no right to judge?
 Quoting: Real list


lol.. i like you.. again.. the bitch of it is... it use to be a free country... lOL
 Quoting: Lecaro


I don't understand your meaning but

it is still a fairly free country

you can define any word in any way you wish.. you can call a homosexual union a marriage if you want. But I retain the freedom to reject your definitions.

Equally free..that is fair
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How does m/f marriage benefit us?
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I asked first :-)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1555227


It benefits both parties that commit to the marriage. And moms and dads who like to think their daughters can still wear white.
 Quoting: Lecaro


How would redefining marriage to include homosexual union benefit SOCIETY?

I believe that was the original question
 Quoting: Real list


Here is my deal.. I do not give a flying fuck about marriage. what i do give a shit about is being the one at the hospitol, not loosing my house in the event of death, tax breaks, especially when paying for "bigoted offspring" public education, we make a lot of money. Gays have the highest disposable income. Highly educated, high paying jobs, no children, and expensive taste. We are a IMPORTANT part of this economy, hence eating out on a Wedensday when the local restuarants need it the most. WE TIP our poor waiter. WE tip delivery drivers.. aka pizza .. delivering at $4 a gallon of gas should be fun.

You want us to keep up with all of that, yet slap us in the face... FUCK YOU and your horrible family. You live nothing like you claim to in the "good book".

So if you want MARRIAGE to be exclusive and not go down a slippery slope, then MAKE MARRIAGE MEAN SOMETHING>>>> OUT LAW DIVORCE. FUCK YOU AND YOUR CAKE.

basically. rant
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mmmk.. now that settled. Its a gorgeous day here.
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lol.. i like you.. again.. the bitch of it is... it use to be a free country... lOL

what does this mean?


You like me

or

you are like me

you like me again

or

you are like me again

or

you are saying (this) again... the bitch of it is

Bitch as in irony?

Where is the irony that (you feel) it used to be a free country

how is it less free in regard to the topic of the thread?

so much to understand in such a short statement
Lecaro  (OP)

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The country at one time had freedom of speech. Now we have limited speech. I said "like you" as in "think he is whitty and kind of funny". "The bitch of it is", is kind of like "damned if you do... your damned if you dont" there is nothing you can do about it because it is out of your control.
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We are getting in the weeds here, but your statement was confusing because some puctuate and some don't

i like you could mean I, (am) like you ...

And thanks for the compliments.

To your rant...

There are several species of animals that 'mate for life', are monogamous. Do they experience love as we do, do they have social reasons (mutual benefits) as we do? Of course not. So the only reason left is that that (instinctive)behavior is good for procreation, essential for survival of the species. I assume early humans 'married' for the same reasons. One could bear young and the other supported the family unit.

If you think about the current social circumstance, almost every aspect of what we refer to as marriage is more favorable to procreation than other possible circumstances.

Can a polygomal family, or a single parent or a homosexual union raise kids? Sure, but it that the MOST favorable condition? NO. And homosexuals have no natural capacity for even producing kids (technology can fill the void though).

Concerning the financials, SS, insurance etc) many states have or are working towards civil unions that address those issues. Again (I repeat) thos issues are not as important where both partners have their own income (as you pointed out most gay coupes do), but procreaation activities often preclude both producing income, at least for periods of time. So the concern here would be fairness, you want to enjoy the same perks as straights.

Basically I think you want acceptance. You are smart enough to undersatnd, acceptance is a personal matter for each person. It cannot be mandated by law or coerced by redefining words and terms.

And you are not GAY by the meaning of that word. The homosexual ommunity would be doing everyone a favor to find another idiom.

Killing a baby as it is being born is not CHOICE, it is murder. Let's be honest in our choice of words.
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Used to be a free country?

When I was young homosexuals were 'in the closet'.

How free is that?
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Maybe you meant you are not free to be judgmental

Well, you are free to say and think as you wish

but in complaining about others being judgmental while

doing so yourself is hypocritic. That is a fact, not a judgment.
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If you don't want the gays to get married, fine that's alright with me. But then we need to change the marriage laws to make it, IMPOSSIBLE to get DIVORCED. No matter what the circumstances are: murder; adultery; and rape.

If you want Marriage to be HOLY and "respectable", then make it that way. TO DEATH DO YOU PART. You cannot have your cake and eat it to.

I liked every single thing that came out of Michelle Bachmann's mouth up until Jay Leno grilled her on gay marriage. It really does not matter to me if gays can marry or not. It matters to me that there is someone in office that could hinder a right.

What do you think?
 Quoting: Lecaro


That is the most ridiculous thing I've heard of.

The bible doesn't say there isn't cause for divorce. There are just causes for divorce

But the bible says a man can't marry a man or a woman marry a woman or even have sex. It is an abomination.

I'm for reclassifying homosexuality and lesbianism as mental illnesses and banning openly homosexulas and lesbians from having any part with the education (indoctrination) of children.

If they want to live together...fine....but no gays in the military and NO CHILD RAISING......make it tantamount to child molestation...no adoption of children by gays.
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I asked first :-)
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It benefits both parties that commit to the marriage. And moms and dads who like to think their daughters can still wear white.
 Quoting: Lecaro


How would redefining marriage to include homosexual union benefit SOCIETY?

I believe that was the original question
 Quoting: Real list


Here is my deal.. I do not give a flying fuck about marriage. what i do give a shit about is being the one at the hospitol, not loosing my house in the event of death, tax breaks, especially when paying for "bigoted offspring" public education, we make a lot of money. Gays have the highest disposable income. Highly educated, high paying jobs, no children, and expensive taste. We are a IMPORTANT part of this economy, hence eating out on a Wedensday when the local restuarants need it the most. WE TIP our poor waiter. WE tip delivery drivers.. aka pizza .. delivering at $4 a gallon of gas should be fun.

You want us to keep up with all of that, yet slap us in the face... FUCK YOU and your horrible family. You live nothing like you claim to in the "good book".

So if you want MARRIAGE to be exclusive and not go down a slippery slope, then MAKE MARRIAGE MEAN SOMETHING>>>> OUT LAW DIVORCE. FUCK YOU AND YOUR CAKE.

basically. rant
 Quoting: Lecaro


OK, if the monetary problems of "singleness" were rectified, you would be happy? If you don't give a fuck about marriage...then don't piss off a lot of people by trying to change marriage. I mean that to be constructive. Change the laws of inheritance, liability, etc. I think the general public would be much more amenable to that as opposed to changing "marriage."

Now, don't foget...my opinion and about $5.00 will get you a nice cup of coffee some place ;-)
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We are getting in the weeds here, but your statement was confusing because some puctuate and some don't

i like you could mean I, (am) like you ...

And thanks for the compliments.

To your rant...

There are several species of animals that 'mate for life', are monogamous. Do they experience love as we do, do they have social reasons (mutual benefits) as we do? Of course not. So the only reason left is that that (instinctive)behavior is good for procreation, essential for survival of the species. I assume early humans 'married' for the same reasons. One could bear young and the other supported the family unit.

If you think about the current social circumstance, almost every aspect of what we refer to as marriage is more favorable to procreation than other possible circumstances.

Can a polygomal family, or a single parent or a homosexual union raise kids? Sure, but it that the MOST favorable condition? NO. And homosexuals have no natural capacity for even producing kids (technology can fill the void though).

Concerning the financials, SS, insurance etc) many states have or are working towards civil unions that address those issues. Again (I repeat) thos issues are not as important where both partners have their own income (as you pointed out most gay coupes do), but procreaation activities often preclude both producing income, at least for periods of time. So the concern here would be fairness, you want to enjoy the same perks as straights.

Basically I think you want acceptance. You are smart enough to undersatnd, acceptance is a personal matter for each person. It cannot be mandated by law or coerced by redefining words and terms.

And you are not GAY by the meaning of that word. The homosexual ommunity would be doing everyone a favor to find another idiom.

Killing a baby as it is being born is not CHOICE, it is murder. Let's be honest in our choice of words.
 Quoting: Real list


Killing a baby at birth is murder. Removing a fetus at an early stage is not. Until the first breath and the cord is cut, a baby is a parasite. It thrives in a host. We pull off ticks, have worms removed, and lice shampoo the kids when they catch it at school. This is not considered murder, its considered hygiene.

Acceptance? Well, I have been to many weddings (baby showers, bridal parties, Sprinkling water on kids heads at church) and bought many gifts. I respect the tradition of the "wedding". 2011 wedding gifts bought from the couples registry include Waterford, Lalique, Wedgwood china,and a Dyson Ball Vacuum cleaner. If those items showed up on my registry, the outlandish requests would be met with a "huh, are they out of their minds" mentality and "its not even a real wedding".

This really makes me want to wrap up our Poodle "Coco's" morning present and mail it instead. But I shell out $300 for a gift, knowing the same compassion would not be returned or taken seriously. 65% of those gifts, have already been split in the divorce and its getting very close to 70%. Now, how do you expect me to consider that "moral" and place great integrity on that.

Maybe my next wedding my gift will be 4 hours of legal services from a cut throat divorce attorney.

Sounds more fitting and useful.
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well, as much fun as its been defending equal rights like ladies did in the 20's and black's did in the 60's. I am bored now, and its GORGEOUS outside. Maybe, Ill head out and place an ad for a Surrogate. Lots of people out of work. 10 months of pay, will go a long way these days! Ta ta for now.
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God said don't remove the standards (Landmarks) of society.
This applied to all society and nations or God said he would destroy such nations.

1) No Sodomites (homosexuals or lesbians)...don't favor them in any way. (he told the jewish people to stone them to death).

2) No cross dressing feminists or effeminate men. It is an abomination for a woman to take on the characteristics of a man and vice versa. The feminist movement is essentially lesbianism and leads to the destruction of society.

3) Authority of a married couple over their children. All this crap about the government stepping in when there isn't abuse to vaccinate/indoctrinate is of the devil. Homeschooled kids being removed from parents is devilish. Only removal of kids when there is physical or severe emotional abuse.

4) Sanctity of marriage. All these flippant fornicators and adulterers or "swingers" is a cancer on society. Legal prostitution is an oxymoron in God's book. Prostitution should always be illegal. Sure it happens, but society sanctioning it will bring a society down.
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God said don't remove the standards (Landmarks) of society.
This applied to all society and nations or God said he would destroy such nations.

1) No Sodomites (homosexuals or lesbians)...don't favor them in any way. (he told the jewish people to stone them to death).

2) No cross dressing feminists or effeminate men. It is an abomination for a woman to take on the characteristics of a man and vice versa. The feminist movement is essentially lesbianism and leads to the destruction of society.

3) Authority of a married couple over their children. All this crap about the government stepping in when there isn't abuse to vaccinate/indoctrinate is of the devil. Homeschooled kids being removed from parents is devilish. Only removal of kids when there is physical or severe emotional abuse.

4) Sanctity of marriage. All these flippant fornicators and adulterers or "swingers" is a cancer on society. Legal prostitution is an oxymoron in God's book. Prostitution should always be illegal. Sure it happens, but society sanctioning it will bring a society down.
 Quoting: Dr_Kynes 1223792


What book is that from? a Joyce Myer?
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Re: *****LET GAYS MARRY or CHANGE Marriage***********
Wow, all this because I used a particular example of words being misused and redefined.

Everything you said had no bearing on the orignal post, which was the gist of my heartfelt message to you.

You seem to be a hypocrite, shallow, envious (of hetero rights), and seeking some sort of ralionalization and mitigation for your lifestyle.

You give other queers a bad name.





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