Chemtrails over Chicagoland 9/20/2011 | |
uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | East to West line in center of the grid along I290. 10:24AM Weather conditions are calm, should lay down(fall) nicely. This line continued west at least to the Fox River. Updated with pic. Updated with pic. Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 01/01/2013 04:42 PM |
Cajun111 User ID: 1515932 United States 09/20/2011 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | and so it continues... Last Edited by Cajun111 on 09/20/2011 11:38 AM “If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.” —Thomas Jefferson |
uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 11:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10:43AM The East/West lines look finished. Wind is low mph ESE. The cloud ceiling is 25,000 feet and the Chemtrails are much higher. The scattered(high altitude) clouds pass far underneath them. The chemtrail aircraft isn't visible, right now. Commercial traffic has started, and still pass easily under the chemtrails 20 miles from OHare take offs. Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/23/2011 11:59 AM |
shadasonic User ID: 1507484 United States 09/20/2011 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10:43AM Quoting: uscrusader1 The East/West lines look finished. Wind is low mph ESE. The cloud ceiling is 25,000 feet and the Chemtrails are much higher. The scattered(high altitude) clouds pass far underneath them. The chemtrail aircraft isn't visible, right now. Commercial traffic has started, and still pass easily under the chemtrails 20 miles from OHare take offs. Severe trails over the missouri river valley mid mo. Constant trails 6 to 10 at a time , back and forth doing nothing but following the suns progression. I have never seen them follow the sun like this. Are they protecting us or intesifying matters “One of the saddest lessons of history is this: If we’ve been bamboozled long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle. We’re no longer interested in finding out the truth. The bamboozle has captured us. It’s simply too painful to acknowledge, even to ourselves, that we’ve been taken. Once you give a charlatan power over you, you almost never get it back.” – Carl Sagan |
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uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 11:02AM Commercial traffic continues. The dispersion of the chemtrails is almost 50% now and has turned into a even haze(blue sky stripes 50%). No sign of the chemtrail jet, he was travelling very fast, by the time I got my spotting scope he was on the horizon. But I did see more of a wing tip dispersion. I'm not traffic control... wonder if he's going to finish the grid? Refueling/loading chems? Maybe dispersion is going good enough as is. |
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uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 11:17AM This is spooky. A 'very' fast mover(compared to commercial traffic) 767 passing thru the chemtrails(for an altitude estimate) just passed Chicagoland going West to East! He's back... The 767 left no chemtrails just quickly disappearing contrails, coming back to finish the job(grid) perhaps? btw There has been only one aircraft flying at that high altitude all morning, our cropduster 767. Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/20/2011 12:32 PM |
uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Command/control to cropduster one, we've been had on GLP, terminate grid, I repeat terminate grid!" Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/20/2011 12:40 PM |
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uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 12:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even dispersion on calm days. 11:41AM Another line NW to SE, following over I94, same 767. Wish I could mate my camera with the spotting scope at this point. There are 4 spray nozzles, wing tips, and inboard on the main wing. And for those interested the contrails make for 6 plumes trailing the 767. Even with 50X it's too high for ID markings. I see it OP, he's got a nice grid going. Does anyone know why they consistently spray on days with clear / blue skies? No doubt it will get hazy soon as these trails disperse. Glad to see people posting on this subject. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1343010 Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/20/2011 12:47 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1332187 United States 09/20/2011 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10:00AM Quoting: uscrusader1 Chemtrails are being laid over Chicagoland. East/West pattern lines(North/South to follow, usually). There are 2-3 East/West chemtrail lines to the south of I55. There are two chemtrail lines north of I94. They are parallel and high altitude. Just like in previous grids the chemtrails are laid from the ends(far north, far south) to the middle of the grid. There is no other commercial air traffic(usually it's a busy zone) from either OHare or Midway in the area. Hey OP. I walked outside and saw them too! FLU Season Trails. They're spreading the virus for us to buy flu shots and medecine. Economic stimulation by causing problems. |
uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 01:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had an opportunity to use both IR and Thermal on the dispersing haze(almost complete now) and there's no unique signature on either. No real difference between blue sky and chemtrail haze. Both IR and thermal return similar signatures as 'real' clouds, from the scattered cloud cover. Commercial traffic has resumed, even high altitude(yes, with contrails) no new persistent chemtrails. "We get the job done quick, 500 square miles, in and out by noon! Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/20/2011 01:25 PM |
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uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There must be a reason to stop commercial traffic, they would fly under the chemtrails from what I saw. Now mostly high altitude traffic, over the chemtrails. 10:00AM Quoting: uscrusader1 Chemtrails are being laid over Chicagoland. East/West pattern lines(North/South to follow, usually). There are 2-3 East/West chemtrail lines to the south of I55. There are two chemtrail lines north of I94. They are parallel and high altitude. Just like in previous grids the chemtrails are laid from the ends(far north, far south) to the middle of the grid. There is no other commercial air traffic(usually it's a busy zone) from either OHare or Midway in the area. Hey OP. I walked outside and saw them too! FLU Season Trails. They're spreading the virus for us to buy flu shots and medecine. Economic stimulation by causing problems. |
TheDecon User ID: 982391 United States 09/20/2011 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can verify all this! I am in Elmhurst, IL about 15-18 miles outside Chicago City limits and holy cow it's crazy today. It seems every 10-15 miles apart there is a stream of it starting over the city and running straight West. I might be able to get a pictures give me a moment. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1509660 United States 09/20/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 10:00AM Quoting: uscrusader1 Chemtrails are being laid over Chicagoland. East/West pattern lines(North/South to follow, usually). There are 2-3 East/West chemtrail lines to the south of I55. There are two chemtrail lines north of I94. They are parallel and high altitude. Just like in previous grids the chemtrails are laid from the ends(far north, far south) to the middle of the grid. There is no other commercial air traffic(usually it's a busy zone) from either OHare or Midway in the area. Hey OP. I walked outside and saw them too! FLU Season Trails. They're spreading the virus for us to buy flu shots and medecine. Economic stimulation by causing problems. Yep. I just went outside too, to pick apples, and saw the trails - one right over the house - from West to East going out over the Fox valley. Going to need to up the vitamin C. I remember the flu outbreak after last years x's. No commercial planes here either. Thanks for the heads up,OP. |
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uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 01:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 12:10 Dang, missed one... There's a grid pattern changeup going on here. Chemtrail SW to NE centered over the I290/I294 intersection Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/23/2011 12:01 PM |
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uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Today the contrails are out there too, they stay thin and don't disperse. Chemtrails will disperse to 2-4 thumbs wide, at arms length and last for hours. A 50X spotting scope shows no additional plumes on the commercial traffic high fliers today, just the 2 engine contrails. Remember these are GPS controlled patterns for chemtrails, look for E-W, N-S, or 45degree diagonals. Unless 'they' Goog'd GLP and are waiting for a new grid changeup 'flightplan'. Remember I posted that E-W chemtrail lines were finished, I was waiting for the N-S grid lines(I have seen before), that turned into NE and SW diagonals? I can verify all this! I am in Elmhurst, IL about 15-18 miles outside Chicago City limits and holy cow it's crazy today. It seems every 10-15 miles apart there is a stream of it starting over the city and running straight West. Quoting: TheDecon I might be able to get a pictures give me a moment. Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/20/2011 02:03 PM |
uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 01:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atomized spray from 40,000? feet altitude will take a day or two or three to make it to the ground, then we'll really see what happens... Two very high flying planes spewing trails since my last post - evenly spaced in the sky from W to E. Still no commercial jet traffic, which is very unusual. They've ruined a perfect day. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509660 Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/20/2011 01:57 PM |
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uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Two very high flying planes spewing trails since my last post - evenly spaced in the sky from W to E. Still no commercial jet traffic, which is very unusual. They've ruined a perfect day. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509660 OK... I originally thought these were commercial 767's. But they were not. When I scoped them there was something unusual about the 2 'contrails' being wider than the engine placement. You are right, these chemtrails are not dissipating, but are only about half the density of the first chemtrails of the day(with 4 distinct main wing nozzles observed). I'll wager this was a pass with the wing tip nozzles 'off' and the inboard nozzles nearer the jet engines 'on'. The pilot was maybe doing some 'touch up'. or... "Command Control to Cropduster One" - "Could you try and be a little less obvious and shut off those tip nozzles?" "GLP is all over us." Earlier shot without the center chemtrail done, they work ends toward the center. Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/23/2011 12:04 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1509660 United States 09/20/2011 02:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Atomized spray from 40,000? feet altitude will take a day or two or three to make it to the ground, then we'll really see what happens... Quoting: uscrusader1 Two very high flying planes spewing trails since my last post - evenly spaced in the sky from W to E. Still no commercial jet traffic, which is very unusual. They've ruined a perfect day. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509660 The line over my house is still there. When I hold my hand up towards it it is as wide as my hand is long. It is very slowly heading westward and downward. There is a slight breeze at ground level which is moving around in different directions as I watch my neighbors flag in the breeze. Just looked out again and some of the newer trails have doubled. It's possible they are made by commercial planes whose's course has been changed due to the tail wind. I don't know anything but I once asked my neighbor who is a retired major airline navigator why the planes were flying so low that day and he told me they did that because the wind was from the east. So, maybe some of the high flyers are just commercial jets taking advantage of the tail wind. |
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uscrusader1 (OP) User ID: 1242940 United States 09/20/2011 02:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yup, he sounds right. You and I know with OHare and Midway, we got pretty busy skies. And a lot of legit traffic, yup using a tailwind. Ask the retired major airline navigator this? But this AM, with no passenger traffic, and the same 767, going back and forth 10(?) times leaving contrails that dont evaporate, in a perfect EW line 10(?) miles apart. Ask him what he thinks about that? The line over my house is still there. When I hold my hand up towards it it is as wide as my hand is long. It is very slowly heading westward and downward. There is a slight breeze at ground level which is moving around in different directions as I watch my neighbors flag in the breeze. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1509660 Just looked out again and some of the newer trails have doubled. It's possible they are made by commercial planes whose's course has been changed due to the tail wind. I don't know anything but I once asked my neighbor who is a retired major airline navigator why the planes were flying so low that day and he told me they did that because the wind was from the east. So, maybe some of the high flyers are just commercial jets taking advantage of the tail wind. Last Edited by uscrusader1 on 09/20/2011 02:42 PM |