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VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA

 
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Its amazing how clear the skys are here right now.
Is was a wreck 3 hours ago.
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
its dihydrogen monoxide, nasty stuff.
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DEADLY. It's killed tens of thousands this year alone...uhoh
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
Eyewitness Chicago Sept.20.2011

Right AC332
I got a good view on one of the passes. The 767 had the 4 wing nozzles going, wingtip and slightly outboard of the engines. There were two engine contrails which evaporated quickly, and 4 persistent plumes from the nozzles which did not.
The same 767 made the center pass(of 5) with the wing tip nozzles off as viewed thru a 50X scope. The chemtrail was less dense than the others but persistent, more like a contrail in 'looks'. I did see the inboard nozzles spraying.
I don't know why, touch up?, stealth?(for the play by play I was giving for the last three hours)?

Ok....for anyone that may be in their initial interest about the possibility of chemtrailing.....get out your pen and paper. Take notes. The above poster is a paid employee of your government. He is about disinfo.....thats it. He sits in a room with other internet surfers and gets paid to respond to this and other types of post to sway public opinion. They are usually friendly and will somehow connect with you at some level. (Illuminati comment)
The truth is that when vapor freezes at high altitudes it has to fall due to being heavier than air. As it falls it encounters warmer air and should dissipate rapidly. When it is falling and growing in coverage and thickness as you watch it over a few minutes...NOT....EPIC FAIL. Use common sense. It should never linger and grow thicker...it should disappear as it falls. BONUS If what we are looking at is finely ground aluminum particulates (and it is), it will fall in a short period of time.....and guess what?? You are breathing it. Along with everything that is bonded to it. Just fyi. To the paid guy....get another job. You will answer to someone for what you do, even if you claim ignorance.....a real weather guy could easily no the difference from what you typed and the rest of us KNOW. Good Luck ....start with finding the Lord and ask for forgiveness....HE WILL FORGIVE, and you can be saved. It is not too late for you and your family.
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
is it possible that these "chem trails" are a defense against haarp type weapons?
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I think they are to block the sky? Some Reason.
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Thanks for all the comments and post guys! I made it this "noon" morning, and had to leave! I am reading as we speak!
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I live in the Denver area and today, Thurs 9/22, they were "chemming" like mad for hours.
I have asthma and I couldn't figure out why my breathing was bothering me on an otherwise perfect day; clear, calm and sunny....and then I looked up.
I'm like a canary in a coal mine, and while most people won't be immediately impacted by ingesting all the chemicals in chem-trails (and especially aluminium), no one is addressing the long-term impact. Could the explosion of Alzheimer's cases possibly be tied to chemtrails (in our air, water and food)? Only time will tell.
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
Try to DEBUNK this Chemtrail vs. Contrail movie. DENVER, CO. 09/22/2011

10:30 am Mountain Time Having a smoke on my porch. Sky was super blue. CHEMTRAIL PLANE FLY STRAIGHT OVER ME. I, jump up and film it. Far off, I notice another plane heading the opposite direction. GUESS WHAT? No, Lasting exhaust trail.
10:34 am Already dispersing
10:40 am Close to resembling a cloud
10:42 am Cloud
12 minutes was all it took.


I am about to go out and about, see If I see anything more!


 Quoting: Lecaro





Those who know nothing about the atmosphere and how flight relates to it should not post! LOL

This was debunked by the first post after yours. Has to do with altitude speed TEMPERATURE AND MOISTURE CONTENT OF SKY (HUMIDITY).

But, nevermind facts and reason, think what you will TARD.
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Think what you will tard, I had something saved just for asses like yourself. After a HUGE amount of spraying over the skies, I collected rain water in 3 locations. I had them tested. I have not gotten the results yet but we shall see.
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
Do some reading on how long it takes for atomized spray to get to the ground from altitudes, it takes days.

I live in the Denver area and today, Thurs 9/22, they were "chemming" like mad for hours.
I have asthma and I couldn't figure out why my breathing was bothering me on an otherwise perfect day; clear, calm and sunny....and then I looked up.
I'm like a canary in a coal mine, and while most people won't be immediately impacted by ingesting all the chemicals in chem-trails (and especially aluminium), no one is addressing the long-term impact. Could the explosion of Alzheimer's cases possibly be tied to chemtrails (in our air, water and food)? Only time will tell.
 Quoting: Videobarbs 1335878


In Chicago on Tuesday they were +40,000(?)feet minimum, using the cloud cover altitude report.
Perhaps the chemtrails are never supposed to reach the ground, who knows?

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better... without the stupid border. I have no idea why i cannot get the 1080p to work. you can see the sky much clearer.
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
is it possible that these "chem trails" are a defense against haarp type weapons?
 Quoting: y6h6v6h


no no no you got it wrong, chemtrails are the medium for haarp.

they work in conjunction
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1557174


well which one is it chaps? make up your mind. its difficult to believe something when the proponents put forward conflicting reasons.

(or it could just be they are nothing but water vapour)
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
Okay,

New "chemtard" here... been watching the skies for years, trying to decide on what to believe and what not to...

I was driving through the North Central ILLINOIS area today, I noticed the high residue of contrail above what appeared to be a heavy cumulus clouds ALL DAY. While watching, I saw your typical jet flying above & around 20,000+ with a very heavy contrail, then suddenly, as it passes over the cloud cover into a short opening, the contrail very abruptly just STOPS. I mean, if this was what every "debunker" calls, it was like the engines were suddenly shut off. and for the remainder of its flight across my horizon of visibility while I watched, there was no more contrail....

would you debunkers say that this is possible, for a vapor contrail with a minor adjustment in altitude to just stop?

and would you chemtrail believers believe this is, indeed the sight of possible cloud seeding/and or more of a 'hidden' approach to spraying.. ?

I have a hard time taking sides here, but i will say I've only seen this occurrence happen one other time while i was in Florida on the Gulf Coast.. plane over an area w/ a well defined contrail, next minute. contrail shuts off. while appearing to be at a static altitude.

Both areas, where heavy airline traffic would/could be expected. but also places that are very prone to interesting weather patterns, and important sustaining crops (if chemtrailing has anything to do with the idea of an overly large corporation like monsanto trying to ruin soil with heavy metals...)
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
Okay,

New "chemtard" here... been watching the skies for years, trying to decide on what to believe and what not to...

I was driving through the North Central ILLINOIS area today, I noticed the high residue of contrail above what appeared to be a heavy cumulus clouds ALL DAY. While watching, I saw your typical jet flying above & around 20,000+ with a very heavy contrail, then suddenly, as it passes over the cloud cover into a short opening, the contrail very abruptly just STOPS. I mean, if this was what every "debunker" calls, it was like the engines were suddenly shut off. and for the remainder of its flight across my horizon of visibility while I watched, there was no more contrail....

would you debunkers say that this is possible, for a vapor contrail with a minor adjustment in altitude to just stop?
 Quoting: NewGuyHere 1593048


You could compare this situation with that of clouds. Clouds also suddenly start and stop while this does not mean te sky outside the cloud is suddenly devoid of moisture. There is simply not enough to lead to saturation.


Put simple cloud formation depends on 2 factors: The temperature (T) and dewpoint temperature (Td.)
Td is the temperature to which the air must cool down to become saturated and start cloud formation.

This Td depends on relative humidity (RH): the percentage of water vapour present compared to saturated air (RH=100%).

The RH is in turn dependent on both the amount of water vapour and the amount of cloud condensation nuclei present.
Water uses these CCN to condense on. CCN can be almost anything. From fine dust, to soot and salt crystals.

To saturate a mass of air you can do 2 things:
- Cool the air to the Td
- Raise the Td to T

Aircraft emit both water vapour and CCN. These account for a locally higher Td and when this Td has reached T a cloud/contrail will be created. if the Td does not reach T even by a fraction no cloud will be formed.

If the Td is already close to T it will have the result that the same exhaust will be able to saturate a much larger volume of air, thus creating a long lasting and spreading contrail.

A cloud/contrail will dissipate when the Td is lowered or when the T is raised above T. This can have multiple causes such as turbulance mixing the air and a high pressure area causing adiabatic warming.

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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
Hard to tell.
There is only about a 10 mile dispersion per line, were there more trails making a series of lines? If the city is wider they need more lines.
Chicago, Sept 20, 2011, 5 lines same plane back and forth covered 500 square miles in 3-4hours. We got satellite pics.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


Share, please! I've never seen any evidence for the "same plane back and forth" thing.
It's good to be open-minded, just don't let your brain fall out.
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I've seen it using a 50X scope multiple times now in Chicagoland(including suburbs). The evidence is at the Air Route Traffic Control Center in Aurora, IL. If you could get AC228 to give more details, he works there.

Otherwise the evidence is here; Get a FAA FOIA request for the transponder ID and IFR for the military craft that cleared,entered the airspace over Chicago(Like that'll happen). btw He set a hard ceiling for all other aircraft while he completed his mission. During the mission the transponder is shut off and he goes 'dark' to ATC, thats why you need the 'in and out' of airspace transponder info.

ATC was told by DHS there was a HV Vatican flight coming thru and to clear the airspace for 3-4 hours. Not likely but a good diversion, flying thru Chicago airspace takes minutes not hours tho, as does landing at OHare, so why 3-4 hours?

Hard to tell.
There is only about a 10 mile dispersion per line, were there more trails making a series of lines? If the city is wider they need more lines.
Chicago, Sept 20, 2011, 5 lines same plane back and forth covered 500 square miles in 3-4hours. We got satellite pics.
 Quoting: uscrusader1


Share, please! I've never seen any evidence for the "same plane back and forth" thing.
 Quoting: The Guy


Thanks to the GLERL satellite images, careful examination show the parallel chemtrail plumes flaring out from opposite EW directions. Unlike 'cropdusting' the plumes are 8 miles apart so same altitude parallel plumes are undisturbed.

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better... without the stupid border. I have no idea why i cannot get the 1080p to work. you can see the sky much clearer.
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I hope you're seeing some of this action today man.



Ti-Ti-Time 4 Sum Aksion!


verycool
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better... without the stupid border. I have no idea why i cannot get the 1080p to work. you can see the sky much clearer.
 Quoting: Lecaro


I hope you're seeing some of this action today man.



Ti-Ti-Time 4 Sum Aksion!


verycool
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I sure am.. I hate the spray. It makes my eyes burn
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
Lecaro, now go to the GOES satellite and see to what extent the coverage is.
Like this sat image of Chicago during the spraying here.
Earlier shot(center chemtrail missing) they work ends towards the center.
1000-1200hrs

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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
Lecaro, now go to the GOES satellite and see to what extent the coverage is.
Like this sat image of Chicago during the spraying here.
Earlier shot(center chemtrail missing) they work ends towards the center.
1000-1200hrs
 Quoting: uscrusader1


Interesting.. I cannot find pics like that on the site.. only like the water vapor... looking around at it though.. thanks...good find...
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Re: VIDEO PROOF Chemtrail VS. Contrail. In the sky at the same time 9/22/2011 10:30 am Denver, CO USA
better... without the stupid border. I have no idea why i cannot get the 1080p to work. you can see the sky much clearer.
 Quoting: Lecaro


I hope you're seeing some of this action today man.



Ti-Ti-Time 4 Sum Aksion!


verycool
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I sure am.. I hate the spray. It makes my eyes burn
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Let's get this shit tested!
Take the results to Hickenloopers door lol.
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Try to DEBUNK this
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Planes at different altitudes...

What do I Win?
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Try to DEBUNK this
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Planes at different altitudes...

What do I Win?
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


a spanking from a gimp.. sucker./





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