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Land ownership... what a funny concept

 
Mr. Reasonable
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Land ownership... what a funny concept
If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else?
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
Native Americans were geniuses. How can you own nature?

It is ridiculous. :)
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else?
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Aah yes, but how would our elites and governments control and make easy money and slaves out of us...whilst still actually holding right to the land, becaue funnily private land ownership is actually a concession and not legally binding... as governments and monarchies have the right to take back your land at any time..if they ever wanted or needed too...because they stupidly think the land belongs to them too...all selfish really.
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
Like someone else said in here, inertia is taking over. We're back :3
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The land is not to be bought and sold as forever, for it is mine and ye are merely sojourners with me. -- GOD
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
OP - what about the concept of sovereign nations?
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
OP - what about the concept of sovereign nations?
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Sovereignty doesn't come from governments

"Rights" are only as substantial as the force used to protect them

But there is almost always going to be someone somewhere who is capable of more force than you, someone who is more willing to abandon compassion than you are. Those with the most "power" (influence over others through manipulation) always use violence to enforce their "power" so violence is never an acceptable or reasonable solution to struggles for "sovereignty"

A "nation" is nothing more than a group of people who follow a form of "government". A "government" is nothing more than a pattern of behavior, a social system used to maintain an established paradigm. It's not a tangible thing, it's just an idea. What you see and experience are simply the natural results of that idea

Therefore the "sovereignty" of a "nation" is as fleeting as the violence needed to enforce it
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
Native Americans were geniuses. How can you own nature?

It is ridiculous. :)
 Quoting: KingDingaLing


From a psychological perspective, the concept of land ownership is less about the land itself and more about asserting artificial authority over others

You cannot "own" nature, you can only forceably compel others to pretend you do

Last Edited by Mr. Reasonable on 09/24/2011 04:34 PM
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
Research homesteading.
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
You don't own your land you only rent it. Don't pay your taxes and it's not yours.
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else?
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Because it would get too dirty!
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Nothing a little Tebowing can't fix!
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Nobody 'owns' anything. Try taking it with you when you go..

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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else?
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What neighbors? I have 500 acres, I have no neighbors.
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else?
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What neighbors? I have 500 acres, I have no neighbors.
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You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres?

Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?"
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else?
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Because it would get too dirty!
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Nothing a little Tebowing can't fix!
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


thethinker
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banana2

Does Tebow strike you as a thinker?
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
DEED READS .... you are a 'tenant' on the land !''

The corporation 'CALLED' your town, city actually OWNS IT !

Want to find out the 'reality' of this situation ?

DON'T pay your taxes and it will be quickly taken from you, NO PROBLEM !

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Nobody 'owns' anything. Try taking it with you when you go..

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Agreed.
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else?
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What neighbors? I have 500 acres, I have no neighbors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres?

Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?"
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.)
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
if it's your land, then you should be allowed to be buried on your property when you die, rather than sharing space with all the other dead bodies in a graveyard.
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
if it's your land, then you should be allowed to be buried on your property when you die, rather than sharing space with all the other dead bodies in a graveyard.
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We can.
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if it's your land, then you should be allowed to be buried on your property when you die, rather than sharing space with all the other dead bodies in a graveyard.
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There are a lot of private cemeteries here, what is bad is when the graves are not marked and you accidentally dig into one.
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Re: Land ownership... what a funny concept
If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else?
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable

What neighbors? I have 500 acres, I have no neighbors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres?

Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?"
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it?

If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours?
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What neighbors? I have 500 acres, I have no neighbors.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres?

Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?"
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it?

If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours?
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs.
By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up.
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No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs.
By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


What Would Moses Do?

:colddeadhands:
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My hero!
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You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres?

Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?"
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Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it?

If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours?
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs.
By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave"
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Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it?

If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours?
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs.
By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave"
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable

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Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it?

If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours?
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs.
By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave"
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable

Are you 12 years old? Do you not have any idea of how land tile is conveyed? Do you think people just plop their butts down and take it? I cannot believe that you are totally ignorant of laws regarding property.
Do you have a car? A bicycle? Or any thing else you regard as yours? If a previous owner of your car demanded you turn it over to him, would you?
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What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave"
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Offer them some Casinos instead!
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Won't work with me, my great-grandmother was Choctaw!
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So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it?

If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours?
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable


No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs.
By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave"
 Quoting: Mr. Reasonable

Are you 12 years old? Do you not have any idea of how land tile is conveyed? Do you think people just plop their butts down and take it? I cannot believe that you are totally ignorant of laws regarding property.
Do you have a car? A bicycle? Or any thing else you regard as yours? If a previous owner of your car demanded you turn it over to him, would you?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047


My, my... testy

Do you have any idea how a title is enforced?

You cannot believe, yet you do... what an assumption to make

Do you by chance know what eminent domain means? If so, what legitimacy does "ownership" have?
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