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humanitech User ID: 1788349 ![]() 09/23/2011 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else? Quoting: Mr. Reasonable Aah yes, but how would our elites and governments control and make easy money and slaves out of us...whilst still actually holding right to the land, becaue funnily private land ownership is actually a concession and not legally binding... as governments and monarchies have the right to take back your land at any time..if they ever wanted or needed too...because they stupidly think the land belongs to them too...all selfish really. |
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Mr. Reasonable (OP) User ID: 1522073 ![]() 09/24/2011 04:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sovereignty doesn't come from governments "Rights" are only as substantial as the force used to protect them But there is almost always going to be someone somewhere who is capable of more force than you, someone who is more willing to abandon compassion than you are. Those with the most "power" (influence over others through manipulation) always use violence to enforce their "power" so violence is never an acceptable or reasonable solution to struggles for "sovereignty" A "nation" is nothing more than a group of people who follow a form of "government". A "government" is nothing more than a pattern of behavior, a social system used to maintain an established paradigm. It's not a tangible thing, it's just an idea. What you see and experience are simply the natural results of that idea Therefore the "sovereignty" of a "nation" is as fleeting as the violence needed to enforce it Put it in neutral! "Mysteries on a bull" Trololos fuel Roflcopters |
Mr. Reasonable (OP) User ID: 1522073 ![]() 09/24/2011 04:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From a psychological perspective, the concept of land ownership is less about the land itself and more about asserting artificial authority over others You cannot "own" nature, you can only forceably compel others to pretend you do Last Edited by Mr. Reasonable on 09/24/2011 04:34 PM Put it in neutral! "Mysteries on a bull" Trololos fuel Roflcopters |
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Mr. Reasonable (OP) User ID: 1522073 ![]() 01/14/2012 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else? Quoting: Mr. Reasonable Because it would get too dirty! Nothing a little Tebowing can't fix! Put it in neutral! "Mysteries on a bull" Trololos fuel Roflcopters |
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Mr. Reasonable (OP) User ID: 1522073 ![]() 01/14/2012 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else? Quoting: Mr. Reasonable What neighbors? I have 500 acres, I have no neighbors. You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres? Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?" Put it in neutral! "Mysteries on a bull" Trololos fuel Roflcopters |
Mr. Reasonable (OP) User ID: 1522073 ![]() 01/14/2012 04:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else? Quoting: Mr. Reasonable Because it would get too dirty! Nothing a little Tebowing can't fix! ![]() ![]() Does Tebow strike you as a thinker? Put it in neutral! "Mysteries on a bull" Trololos fuel Roflcopters |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8836047 ![]() 01/14/2012 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else? Quoting: Mr. Reasonable What neighbors? I have 500 acres, I have no neighbors. You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres? Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?" Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8836047 ![]() 01/14/2012 04:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if it's your land, then you should be allowed to be buried on your property when you die, rather than sharing space with all the other dead bodies in a graveyard. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4472362 There are a lot of private cemeteries here, what is bad is when the graves are not marked and you accidentally dig into one. |
Mr. Reasonable (OP) User ID: 1522073 ![]() 01/14/2012 04:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If land "belongs" to you, and you don't like your neighbors, why not just dig up "your land" and take it somewhere else? Quoting: Mr. Reasonable What neighbors? I have 500 acres, I have no neighbors. You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres? Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?" Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.) So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it? If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours? Put it in neutral! "Mysteries on a bull" Trololos fuel Roflcopters |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8836047 ![]() 01/14/2012 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres? Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?" Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.) So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it? If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours? No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs. By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up. |
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Mr. Reasonable (OP) User ID: 1522073 ![]() 01/14/2012 05:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mr. Reasonable You have 500 acres? What happens if someone else decides they have that same 500 acres? Is it still "yours?" What makes it "yours" as opposed to "theirs?" Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.) So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it? If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours? No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs. By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up. What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave" Put it in neutral! "Mysteries on a bull" Trololos fuel Roflcopters |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1324238 ![]() 01/14/2012 05:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047 Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.) So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it? If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours? No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs. By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up. What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave" ![]() |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8836047 ![]() 01/14/2012 05:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8836047 Because it has been in my family for generations and I have the right to defend it from interlopers, and I will. For more than 700 years every generation of my family have been land owners. (Yes, I am related to all of European royalty.) So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it? If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours? No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs. By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up. What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave" Are you 12 years old? Do you not have any idea of how land tile is conveyed? Do you think people just plop their butts down and take it? I cannot believe that you are totally ignorant of laws regarding property. Do you have a car? A bicycle? Or any thing else you regard as yours? If a previous owner of your car demanded you turn it over to him, would you? |
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Mr. Reasonable (OP) User ID: 1522073 ![]() 01/14/2012 05:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Mr. Reasonable So the only difference between you "owning" the land and not owning the land is your willingness to exert violent force to keep other people off of it? If someone forces you off of "your" land, does that make it their land or is it still yours? No matter what a thief does, it is still my land and will go to my heirs. By the way, I will not be forced off my land. They may kill me but they will not make me give it up. What if the descendants of the previous owners showed up and said "this is my land, it was my family's for generations, you are trespassing and you have to leave" Are you 12 years old? Do you not have any idea of how land tile is conveyed? Do you think people just plop their butts down and take it? I cannot believe that you are totally ignorant of laws regarding property. Do you have a car? A bicycle? Or any thing else you regard as yours? If a previous owner of your car demanded you turn it over to him, would you? My, my... testy Do you have any idea how a title is enforced? You cannot believe, yet you do... what an assumption to make Do you by chance know what eminent domain means? If so, what legitimacy does "ownership" have? Put it in neutral! "Mysteries on a bull" Trololos fuel Roflcopters |