Your thoughts on the theory of Evolution. (Please no "It's just a theory. That's a misunderstanding)

Please present any evidence for your belief in this state brainwashing evolution theory.

I could just refer you to the fossil record containing a sufficiently detailed transition of a massive number of species, I could cite papers noting the genetic similarities between all the organisms on earth, I could simply note the fact that we all use Deoxyribonucleic acid as a basis for heredity, I could say it's helped us create largely effective vaccinations against many diseases and, in a few cases, outright eradicating them.

Sure I could. But this isn't about that. I just want to know what you have against it.

I'm bumping this thread. I hope that's alright. I just really need answers.

I'm not religious at all so I may not havethe point of view you're looking for but I'll give you my thoughts.

I have no idea if there is a God, no God, or many gods.

If there is a God, and it created all of this, I have to assume that it could also have developed it with a plan. A blueprint.

You plant a seed and watch a flower grows. Maybe God planted a single cell organism and watched a flower grow. And a fish. And a duck.

I don't see the ideas of evolution and creationism as opposites at all. No one knows for sue, and probably never will. You can cite all the evidence in the world but that doesn't mean it's right. Look how much evidence they have in court but the accused is innocent. You can put 100 percent of your faith in God but once again you can't prove to me 100 percent that one exists.

1) Fossils do not often form today, however when they do fossils are observed forming in months. The fossil record found globally in sediment layers is a result of a global flood.

2) no fossil 'transitions' are found.

3) Mendel's law of genetics says organism gives rise to like organism (i.e. wolf to dog)

4) Mendel's law of heredity. similar composition only proves we all live on planet earth.

5) vaccines have not only never cured anything they cause numerous medical conditions. Vaccination by injecting an organism directly into the blood stream is not how the immune system works where relatives and friends pass the cold or flu around via nasal passage or digestive system. The original small pox inoculation discovery was of scabs shared among the infected by consumption through the DIGESTIVE system. Not directly into the blood. Vaccines are weapons of genocide and war on us all.

Doesn't matter if you're religious or not I just need to hear the opposition. Complacency is a skeptic's worst enemy. Which is why I made this thread. To find new points of view to scrutinize my understanding. As for the bit about evidence you're absolutely correct. No matter how much evidence I have I can still be wrong. But with it I can at least make a damn good case that I'm not.

101 other evidences
[link to creation.com]
Evolution: Fact or Belief? (video)
[link to www.noevolution.org]
[link to www.archive.org]

[link to creation.com]
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[link to www.detectingdesign.com]
[link to www.johnpratt.com]
[link to www.creation.com]

Hydroplate Theory: The global flood explained
with Dr. Walt Brown
[link to www.youtube.com]

Hahahaha Fossil Record my butt

1.With that in mind we would expect fossils to be scattered randomly with no clear order. But no we find older organisms (Geologically speaking) are found deeper into the ground than more recent organisms.

2. Then please explain the smooth transitions found in the fossil record.

3.I'm not entirely sure what your point is here.

4.And it's what you expect to find when creatures share a common ancestor.

5. Vaccines haven't cured anything because they're not supposed to. They only prevent disease. At worst what you get from a vaccine is swelling and pain at the site of the shot. As for the rest... Well you have to take a basic course in germ theory before we can talk.



I skimmed most of the links. Most of the "Professors" and "Doctors" have degrees in fields that have nothing to do with evolution. The rest I didn't bother to check.



I saw about 4 minutes of it. The first guy was mentioning how fossils don't prove evolution. And they don't;nothing does. They're just representations of the events that happened. All they can be used for is to scrutinize the predictions made by evolutionary theory. It predicts smooth transition from species to species with the rare sudden change while still retaining recognizable traits from earlier specimens. The second one was likely going to go on to cite comparative genomics which notes the similarities in the DNA of all the creatures in the world (Up to and including humans) as an alternative to the fossil record as evidence.

I think the fossil record is the most substantial evidence. Archaeologists have pinpointed where mammals became amphibian and visa versa proving that species once lived on land and migrated and evolved to live in the ocean and visa versa. same with the evolution of man up until a certain missing link.


EDIT Whales of today used to live on land FACT.

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piltdown man was accepted as evidence for years -

they must have been pretty short on evidence if a pig's
jawbone was convincing
.

This isn't the place for these kinds of posts. I want opposition not this.

Created and promoted extensively by the Illuminati
Many scientists now recognise that fully formed fossils simply "appeared"
The Illuminati, under direct guidance from their demonic minions, needed the most effective tool to deceive people away from God and Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The Creator of all life. How best does one attack anything? Destroy the foundation - CREATION.

Conspiracy theories are not welcome here. If you do not have an actual criticism with regards to the theory of Evolution I suggest you make your own thread and talk about your illuminati there.

Oy ve, the Illuminati is responsible for EVERYTHING eh? I suppose they created dinosaurs to test your faith? Personally, I believe in both intelligent design, or whatever you want to call it, and evolution. Natural selection just makes common sense. Over millions of years, of course those individuals that are better adapted are going to be more likely to mate and have offspring and thus perpetuate their better genes...And yet, David Wilcock has cited research showing how life appears spontaneously in sterilized test tubes. So it isn't either/or, it's clearly both at work. Oh yeah, and then there's the alien factor, I do believe they have played a major role in our evolution.

Please keep the illuminati talk at that level. Mind giving me this research? So far life appearing in sterilized tubes sounds like either faked data, contamination, or major trolling.

Evolution is a religion to it's adherents.

They are quite the irrational lot, and get very upset when anyone doesn't buy into their absurd theory.

Of course, it's baloney, but it's their baloney.

Criticisms of the theory please. This thread isn't meant to slam anyone. It's just my way of scrutinizing my beliefs and ideals as well as a way of spurring conversation with the community at large

(Stamps feet, shakes fist)

Planets evolve.
Our thoughts evolve.
Culture evolves.
Everything around us evolves.


Nothing is constant. Energy is a continually changing force. If it bothers you that people came from monkeys, that's your problem. It doesn't mean we are 'monkeys' anymore. Well, most of us aren't anyways. :)

Nope, I never take the bait from the evolution folks, same as I wouldn't from other religious lemmings.

It is your religion, and as absurd as all religion is, I know not to argue with believers.

Did they ever find the missing link for humans?

Try, everything is staged to get you to buy into evolution but the creationists are also off their rockers. Also, evolution is based on the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, which dictates this is a closed system, when it is a open system instead.

Ribbit

Yep!

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Evolution theory says life evolved from chemicals, get the chemicals and create life, and i'll consider ur theory.

Them aliens created us by splicing their dna with earths intelligent native species.

It's not an either / or... It's both!

Even from a purely scientific perspective:
GM crops are a product of evolution and intelligent design (our meddling)

We humans are possibly a result of evolution and genetic meddling from visitors in the distant past. There's no easy way to prove we absolutely have/haven't been messed with.

Intelligent design doesn't have to involve a supreme creator to be intelligent design.

link?

Hopefully you see the difference between the theory and all those though! :P

If some biologists are to be believed (Which I do. The reasoning seems sound to me) we ARE monkeys. More specifically we're apes which, by his definition, are just a subset of monkeys.



If you have no criticisms of it then you are not welcome on this thread.




"Missing link" Is such a vague phrase. Wanna be more specific? So far we have (and I name these off the top of my head and in no specific order): Australapithicus aforensis, austrolapithicus africanis, homo erectus, homo habilis, homo sapiens, Homo sapiens sapiens (Modern humans), and Cro Magnon (The common caveman. They're not related to us but if you wanna throw em in there then be my guest).



The theory came to be because of the similarities found in most any creature on the planet. Not thermodynamics.




No evolution says we all decended from a single organism. How that organism came to be is irrelevant.