Notes from an "alternate universe": September 29 - October 28. (Do you know what happened at Farpoint Station?)

Chaol,

Would you ever consider the possibility that you are a human like all of us on earth, but that for some reason your egotism has gone delusional?

Or maybe you are ration and normal, but you like your entertainment to covey some viable and interesting ideas along with pure insanity.

I hope my example can help:

I described your "The Genius" to my brothers and a couple good friends yesterday and I used "Getting a Job in your field" (as they are all unemloyed college grads)

I explained (with your website up) the following:

"The steps to making a Genius map follow the basic principles of Ecsys Prime."

1-Create symbol: Represent your desired thought, object, or experience physically.

Create a resume', portfolio, buy clothing that someone in your field would wear.

2-Find possibility: Create or use space for your symbol or the interactions.

Send the pieces of paper off to possible employers (creating possibility for interaction)

3-Interact: Allow the symbol or representation to interact with the various elements of your reaity

Visit, call or frequent places where the people in your field (possible employers) are, show your work, talk to people about what you do. Contact the people/places you've sent resume's to.

5-Structure: For added bonus, develop structure around the interactions.

Speak and behave as one would in your field, wear the clothing you purchased.

I know, it's simple and it's just an example, but the group I was speaking with was very receptive.

Wow thanks for the help! Your examples are great because anyone can relate to them!

I'm gonna brainstorm what I want and thoroughly think about the process..

Thanks again for the help :)

I like your posts, Curve.
I've added you to my buddy list :)

Much of what Chaol is speaking reminds me of higher Buddhist metaphysics.

Namo Amitabha.

Hi Chaol :)

I have to say that I was expecting something to happen in October 1st, but I'm not disappointed because 'nothing' happened.

I just wish for changes in this world, you know? I'm not happy with the way I live. I'm not happy with what this society offers to me. I just want to be happy, but instead I'm forced to do things that bore me... It's everything about money!

I have some questions for you...

You are the only one of your world in our world? I remember reading of some friend of you, but and the others? They know what is happening here?

And about the Mayans, what you can say about they? And about their calendar?

And it's really hard to me to express myself in english, so sorry for my mistakes! :D

Yet another absolute FAIL.

So I should just basically pretend like nothing is going on, and forget that my government is oppressing me, against the law of the land, without impunity? Hell, an American Citizen was just assassinated this week, and the media is cheering it on like blood sucking vampires. I should just be ok with that?

Ants.

:)

Hey Chaol, any word on that app for either Android or IOS?

Well Chaol, I must say I just keep getting more and more confused... I really don't have the patience to read through this and the other thread in it's entirety, but it's looking like that is what I need to do...

Things are in the saddle and riding mankind. You're not exactly the first person to note these things.

However, you mentioned CFLs

[link to www.wnd.com]

I'm curious, what is it about them that makes dogs and cats freak out. I'm pretty sure whatever it is, it's not good for either them or us dumb and blind humans, but I do like explanations for empirical observations.

From my perspective, we (I, you, Everyone else) need to first accept that all is as it is, now.

I am not personally "ok" with "them"(a distant extension of our selves) killing our American citizens. You also do not have to be "ok" with it. But it IS the way it IS.

The way I interpret what Chaol is telling us, there are things that are physically relative to our lives(close to us in distance, time, reality), things that are less relative(further from us in distance, time, reality) and nothing exists beyond what we are aware of (no energy is independent of our "individual" perspective). It's a continuum, with the things most relevant to us here closest (in perspective) and the things least relevant furthest.

I know it is "upsetting" to see such horrible things happening in our world, but until it is closer to us "relatively" from our individual perspective, it is beyond our control.

So, you can choose to bring it closer, using a technique like Chaol's "The Genius" model or you can dismiss it as not as relevant to your life.

I don't mean to sound uncaring or apathetic to the horrid things happening in our world, I am just trying to share my perspective.

I also subscribe to the childish notions that "everything happens for the best, from perspective", that "our experience is a reflection of our choices" and that "we experience EXACTLY what we deserve"

Thanks.

It's good that we each have our own personalities. It makes us more interesting as an individual being, I think.

From my perspective I don't see "failed prophecy". I did apologize for the misdirection, however I don't think it could be said that I was "lying".

As I've often said (and said on the post to which you responded) I am not aiming for credibility.

(Future discussions are only 'tainted', as you say, to those who I would not really be able to have proper discourse with.)

I suppose I am looking at the big picture in a way that is most comfortable to me. (Chess not checkers, I suppose.)

Your paragraph about offering a poem seems to contradict the one above it. Perhaps I am mistaken.

Destruction, by the way, is the same as what you call creation. There is no difference, except that nothing is created or destroyed. Things become less and more relevant (attraction and repulsion) but even this is putting it is readily-available terms.

What process isn't chaotic to an other perspective? It doesn't have to be looked upon favorably by people you know in order to be vitally important to their existence.

Things works regardless of whether or not we know about it.

If I say that anything is possible with an understanding of 'Ecsys prime' then it is only those drinking "weak beer" that do not understand it's possibilities.

Given a choice between teleportation and creating world peace, which do you think is more natural? (and possible)



Hi Chaol,

I am still not sure what the lesson was for the October 1st lesson but i do feel different from my perspective.
I think i am supposed to get off the sidelines as you put it.
as for the statement above about understanding the possibilities with ecsys prime, i don't drink at all and i don't understand it and i have read every post and read both versions of ecsys website many times so maybe i am missing something.

World peace or teleportation

attraction/repulsion the natural order where world peace is really not possible so i think teleportation is more natural and possible and would be so awesome, so if you can send some tips on how it would be appreciated (hehe)

Thank
Vegatech

TRUTH HAS NO MASK. If you knew something you would simply say when and where.

FRAUD.

Chaol,

What did I do today - specifically what show did I attend?

Did I drive or ride my bike?

Remember the zeta's "white lie"? LOL same tactics.

An amazing tie together!

Chaol,

When you write;

1) haven't been paying attention, and/or
2) really want doom to occur and are disappointed when it doesn't happen.

Does anyone really want doom to happen? In reality doom does happen and no one in their right mind enjoys it or wishes for it to happen.

When someone as enigmatic as yourself appears and makes a prediction, some of us more idiosyncratic humans might hope that you are right. I want to emphasize that they are not hoping for doom, they are looking for that someone special in whom they can place their trust. This world is many things, good, bad, beautiful, ugly, certain and this world can be uncertain. People are searching for security, not doom.

You made the prediction and you fail to understand the reason people are disappointed in you.

From the above:

"From my perspective I don't see "failed prophecy". I did apologize for the misdirection, however I don't think it could be said that I was "lying"."

Misdirection? I think you are merely putting lipstick on a pig.


"Destruction, by the way, is the same as what you call creation. There is no difference, except that nothing is created or destroyed. Things become less and more relevant (attraction and repulsion) but even this is putting it is readily-available terms."

I'm sorry, I just can't buy this, perhaps in some painfully abstract way you have a point but in my world any idiot can destroy but it takes intelligence direction and perseverance to create anything of value.

It is however "instructive" that you used the example of destruction.


"What process isn't chaotic to an other perspective? It doesn't have to be looked upon favorably by people you know in order to be vitally important to their existence."

That is an interesting statement



"Given a choice between teleportation and creating world peace, which do you think is more natural? (and possible)"

Excellent question, what is the answer?


"Your paragraph about offering a poem seems to contradict the one above it. Perhaps I am mistaken."

It is only contradictory if you are approaching it from a defensive posture or perspective. Why not take it at face value and offer some little glimpse of your world as was requested.

I would be very excited to read a poem or hear a song from your world. or perhaps you could upload an image of some famous work of art.

Thanks in advance!

People! When the time comes all this knowledge will be given to us as granted. Our goal as human is to focus on being better person. We need to feel love even when there is total chaos around us, when somebody hurts us, when it is impossible to feel love. The rest will be given when we are ready. Do not fall into this phony intellectual stuff. This is distraction! Be simple! Be human!

Last Edited by Sergman on 10/02/2011 08:49 PM

^this^

Some sort of inner dialogue must be there, whether in English or an other language or type of language.

If you've ever learned a second language, the process could be similar. The inner dialogue will change over time as you make the mental map of the new concepts and words.

Chaol,

I realize western civilization is killing itself, and in a way, this is why I wanted doom. Not total doom, just doom to stop the backwards ways of society. To stop the ignorance and bliss. To stop the lies we are told. As you said, how being "green" actually doesn't help any bit. Instead, "Green" is just an idea to garner and steal the "energy" of others.
Naturally, the world would balance out this mess, since this method of thinking will eventually run itself into the ground. However, is it possible to change this method of thinking to oust those who are here as false prophets? Or should I focus on my own paradigm and work to bring what I believe into physical being?
You've explained how to change our reality, but how do others, loved ones, friends, and family fit into the picture?

Sure.

That would be fun, wouldn't it?

I am definitely human, like you. (Have I ever said I wasn't?)

I suppose some things are just impossible, aren't they?

Last Edited by Chaol on 10/02/2011 10:22 PM

Sounds plausible also.

You are on a roll!

Hi. It's good you shared your understanding of the Genius. I'm impressed with your efforts.

Your model is a good start. I'd be interested to see your next one.

Some notes:

2 could possibly work. Though "possibility" would be in the space itself, not in the sending.

For 3, allow the representation to interact.
For 5, try specific rules.

Good stuff :)