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The Overpopulation Myth

 
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The Overpopulation Myth
Upon reflection, it's obvious we need the third world countries to actually develop and provide infrastructure to their populace. It combats the early child mortality rates in the population associated with poverty. And thus have them become like the West ..ie 2 kids per family.

DEVELOP THE THIRD WORLD. Give them electricity, health care, water, sanitation, food security and technology and ultimately a bright future.


"As many have come to expect, I typically deal with financials and numbers. I am not an economist or CPA or even MBA by trade; I am an engineer, so I actually understand numbers, rather than merely pushing them around. And most of the last editorials have been about finances, but I felt it was time to take a short respite and address a different topic for today.

Recently, as I prepared for another jaunt to my second home in Shanghai, China, a friend of mine asked about the population of that nation. I answered it was somewhere beyond 1.3 billion people at the time, and that China, India, and Southeast Asia together combine for just over 3 billion people.

This was apocalyptic and frightening, my friend replied, for clearly there is no way the Earth can support 3 billion people, let alone the nearly 7 billion living and breathing on the face of planet today. So I sat down and - as a good engineer is led to do by some inate, twisted drive buried deep within, whipping our minds unmercilessly - plunged into the straightforward facts of the situation.

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"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh ...Husband to the Queen of England.
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yes it has been a big lie.. to root out the undesirables.
aka kill off...
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bump

nice work
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Anyone who believes the World is not overpopulated is either incredibly stupid or certifiably insane.
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Anyone who believes the World is not overpopulated is either incredibly stupid or certifiably insane.
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YES you are so right! And this is why i SEND some people to you so we can "Help the Earth and remove some livening creatures"
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Btw you can Populate the earth with Thrillions of People if you use the Oceans.

So who is to blame ???? Yes its greed.
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The power of doubling op.

Double 7 billion.

14 billion

Double 14 billion.

28 billion



Same problem for

food
land
oil
water

you name it.
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Did you know that Europe requires at least another 50 million young people to keep the workforce going?
In a few years time Europe will have older population that live long and draw out their pension but Europe will not have enough young people to work and feed in to the pension fund since the child ratio to parents is below the safe limit.
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There is enough food/water and energy to go round the world many many times over.
Its the greedy rich and bankers that are destroying the world and making you think there is not enough to go around
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i don't wanna live in a dirty overpopulated earth, i hate people! i am all for the 500 million deal tptp want to achieve!
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Its not a myth there are tons of people.. come on get real! quality not quantity, do families really need... 6 kids ... per couple? 1 or 2 is enough!
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i don't wanna live in a dirty overpopulated earth, i hate people! i am all for the 500 million deal tptp want to achieve!
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That 500 million is for USA only
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I'll believe the 7 billion figure when I get everyone in line and can do a head count personally, until then, there is way too much of an incentive to lie that any figure "they" give has to be viewed with suspicion.
Repeal the 17th Amendment and the Reapportionment Act of 1929!

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Restore the Republic.

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i don't wanna live in a dirty overpopulated earth, i hate people! i am all for the 500 million deal tptp want to achieve!
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That 500 million is for USA only
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Russia and China can help just ask Nicely!
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Lots of myths around these days. What makes it interesting is they have the same source:

Global Warming
Salt is bad for you
Saturated fat is bad for you

- Club of Rome, CFR agenda!
"The growth of knowledge depends entirely on disagreement" Karl R. Popper
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"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh ...Husband to the Queen of England.
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hell_boy
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Well, when the destroyer comes from the skies enroute, where will everyone go? Where will everyone hide and find food?

Something to think about

You think youll be on the surface forever and earth will be here forever, Thats not the case.

Were due for yellowstone caldera blowup as well.

Nature is the biggest depopulation tool of all and tragically it always happens, Humans have been wiped out 3 times over before.
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:5stars: + :pin:

Earth could support 50 billion people.

But first, we need to "remove" the banksters and their handpuppets in office, and build a system based on real capitalism and freedom, not debt and tyranny.
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Hmm, so 50 billion people each with 2 vehicles, and western standard of living? Yeah right....like that would work.

One human generates so much trash and carbon emissions when they desire the modern tech western standard of living.

Technology and computers and machines are also replacing the need for jobs,

When all the newspaper print shops close cause we get everything online then what? What jobs will there be to go around?

ALready the postal service is laying off workers and soon meat will be grown on scaffolds in ready to serve portions. No people needed for the processing plant.

Advancing technology decreases jobs and the need for workers.
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Its not a myth there are tons of people.. come on get real! quality not quantity, do families really need... 6 kids ... per couple? 1 or 2 is enough!
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Do a bit of research. A nation needs around 2.2 children on average to keep going.
It works like this:
If you have 100 kids (50 boys and 50 girls), eventually they become 50 couples and will on average have 2.2 children (50 boys and 50 girls). the 0.2 will account for death and those who do not marry etc. This 2.2 children per family will sustain the population and economy of a nation as it is but will not allow for economy to grow. Because the higher the economy of a nation grows the bigger young workforce it requires. Any nation that grows fast economically requires to increase its population and thus have more than 2.2 children per family.
Clearly this is not the case in Europe. Europe has already calculated that their workforce is on decline. This is the main reason for allowing so many people to come to Europe.
People who do not understand how the system works complain about people from other nations coming to Europe.
Take UK as an example. Alomst every cleaner, garbage collector, bus driver, cheap workforce are all from outside, because Britain does not have the manpower to carryout these jobs.
All of Europe needs another 50 million workers to be able to keep their economy going. The governments will continue bringing people from Africa and Asia etc. People will continue to complain and be racist and not realise the real reason for these people being in Europe.
Think about it for a moment. Who would clean the streets or Heathrow airport and load the baggage on to plane if there were no foreign workforce. The English won't do it. They are either too lazy to work or can't do the job to high standards.
So, next time you complain about imigration, think twice.
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Anyone who believes the World is not overpopulated is either incredibly stupid or certifiably insane.
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Yes. Either people take care of it in a sane manner by having
less kids, or nature will take care of it. We will hit
critical resource constraints of some form.

We already are to an extent. Remember when everything in the
store was made of metal? Now only luxury goods are built the
way consumer goods used to be made.

There is plenty of energy if we go solar, but we have an era
of permanently high energy prices until the switch happens.
Not to mention the effects of massive CO2 release.
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Even IF overpopulation became a problem, why is the solution depopulation.

Have you no vision ??!


We are in a vast and glorious universe that is waiting to be explored.


Start a Colony on a new Planet !!!!!


Spread Humanity, not death !!!!!
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No. Overpopulation is the biggest problem we face as a humanity and is also the biggest problem that our planet faces. But you still have to open your eyes to face the facts and you have to stop thinking from a limited egotistical viewpoint to see the truth.
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That was a good piece, well worth reading, I've read similar things before. P. J. O'Rourke has a chapter about the overpopulation myth in his book All the Trouble in the World, great book.

I used to "believe in" overpopulation and bitch about it a lot, but then I had this realization: If there are too many people, then some of them are just "extra". If some people are just extra, unnecessary, unneeded, unwanted, superfluous, then maybe I'M one of those extra ones. Maybe I am just extra, too much, shouldn't be here, the world would be better off with me dead.

If I feel like that is a bad philosophy and outlook, to think of myself as unnecessary and better off dead, then how can I apply that to other people? You, over there, you are just extra, the world doesn't need you, you shouldn't be here.

I won't say that about other people, and I won't bitch about "overpopulation" any more, because the issue is, if overpopulation is a problem, "we have the technology" to solve it, if you know what I mean! Less people would be one of the easier things to achieve with the tools at our disposal! And if you believe overpopulation is so very bad, then would you get behind "the solution"? Seriously? Line 'em up and knock 'em in the ditch? Cover 'em up and walk away? It can be done! It's been done before! It's being done right now!

I will not say there are "too many people" any more.
Matthew 10:14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
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I won't say that about other people, and I won't bitch about "overpopulation" any more, because the issue is, if overpopulation is a problem, "we have the technology" to solve it, if you know what I mean! Less people would be one of the easier things to achieve with the tools at our disposal! And if you believe overpopulation is so very bad, then would you get behind "the solution"? Seriously? Line 'em up and knock 'em in the ditch? Cover 'em up and walk away? It can be done! It's been done before! It's being done right now!

 Quoting: Vision Thing


You should think a little deeper than that. Don't you know that basically all of our technology pollutes our planet one way or another? The more people you have, the more technology you need, the more polluted and destroyed our planet becomes.

The humane solution to the overpopulation is to implement a birth stop for several years. And do it several times, if necessary.
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"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh ...Husband to the Queen of England.
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mmmmm...just kill yourself NOW...it's a start, plus the rest of us won't have to listen to imbred royality spout their stupidity.
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I won't say that about other people, and I won't bitch about "overpopulation" any more, because the issue is, if overpopulation is a problem, "we have the technology" to solve it, if you know what I mean! Less people would be one of the easier things to achieve with the tools at our disposal! And if you believe overpopulation is so very bad, then would you get behind "the solution"? Seriously? Line 'em up and knock 'em in the ditch? Cover 'em up and walk away? It can be done! It's been done before! It's being done right now!

 Quoting: Vision Thing


You should think a little deeper than that. Don't you know that basically all of our technology pollutes our planet one way or another? The more people you have, the more technology you need, the more polluted and destroyed our planet becomes.

The humane solution to the overpopulation is to implement a birth stop for several years. And do it several times, if necessary.
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"Humane"? "Implement a "birth stop"?

So, women will be monitored, to make sure they have their periods, they will be forced to undergo medical intervention testing and surveillance, and forced to undergo abortions? By force? Hold her down, shove something up her, violently penetrate her uterus against her will?

Me? You want to do this to me? You want to do this to your sisters, your nieces? Your daughter?

Hunt them down? Abduct them? Incarcerate them in hospitals? Tie them to tables and violently assault them?

This is your humane "solution"?
Matthew 10:14 If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
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I won't say that about other people, and I won't bitch about "overpopulation" any more, because the issue is, if overpopulation is a problem, "we have the technology" to solve it, if you know what I mean! Less people would be one of the easier things to achieve with the tools at our disposal! And if you believe overpopulation is so very bad, then would you get behind "the solution"? Seriously? Line 'em up and knock 'em in the ditch? Cover 'em up and walk away? It can be done! It's been done before! It's being done right now!

 Quoting: Vision Thing


You should think a little deeper than that. Don't you know that basically all of our technology pollutes our planet one way or another? The more people you have, the more technology you need, the more polluted and destroyed our planet becomes.

The humane solution to the overpopulation is to implement a birth stop for several years. And do it several times, if necessary.
 Quoting: Ric 2706334


"Humane"? "Implement a "birth stop"?

So, women will be monitored, to make sure they have their periods, they will be forced to undergo medical intervention testing and surveillance, and forced to undergo abortions? By force? Hold her down, shove something up her, violently penetrate her uterus against her will?

Me? You want to do this to me? You want to do this to your sisters, your nieces? Your daughter?

Hunt them down? Abduct them? Incarcerate them in hospitals? Tie them to tables and violently assault them?

This is your humane "solution"?
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Well said Vision Thing! I always love these do-gooders with "humane" solutions that involve more and more control over every aspect of our lives!
"The growth of knowledge depends entirely on disagreement" Karl R. Popper
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Thanks scorpion. Where's Ric with a rebuttal?
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I agree, we are not overpopulated - but our structure and resource use is not well set up.

One thing that needs to go asap, and I do mean ASAP, is our 'ruling elite' and bankster set up.
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I agree, we are not overpopulated - but our structure and resource use is not well set up.

One thing that needs to go asap, and I do mean ASAP, is our 'ruling elite' and bankster set up.
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Now THAT is the real roblem! We are overpopulated with banksters!
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