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Oct 07 9:14 AM US/Eastern


The White House has denied that US President George W. Bush said God told him to invade Iraq and Afghanistan, as a new BBC documentary is expected to reveal.

"That´s absurd. He´s never made such comments," White House spokesman Scott McClellan said Thursday.

The documentary series set to be broadcast later this month in Britain claims Bush made the claim when he met Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas and then-foreign minister Nabil Shaath in June 2003.

He also told them he had been ordered by God to create a Palestinian state, the ministers said.

Shaath, now the Palestinian information minister, said: "President Bush said to all of us: ´I´m driven with a mission from God´".


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did anyone check w/ condi?

did harriet the lawyer weigh in yet?

did 41 and 42 set up a charity fund for this?
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If the White House is denying it, then itīs more or less guaranteed to be true.
---Ryan
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Didnīt Bush hold a day of prayer shortly after Katrina, which was followed later by Rita?
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saw it on tv, dont care about some dumb article

can say whatever they want, only provides more room to laugh at them with
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Here are Bush´s exact words, quoted by Haaretz: "God told me to strike at al-Qaida and I struck them, and then He instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me, I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."

06/26/03: (Moscow Times)
Over the side and damn the barracuda
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By any chance does Bush think Cheney is God?
It would explain a lot if that were the case.
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He denies it came from God...perhaps it came from the other one. Much more likely.
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Doe anyone get the bigger meaning behind this?

Now the Little Horn has (basically) denied G_D.

Think on this...
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Hearing voices or talking to god is a well established mental disorder called schizophrenia. There are prescribed medication like risperdal that can help removing the talking to god factor.

BTW
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Results 1 - 10 of about 15,300,000 for Bush God told me to. (0.70 seconds)
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If you talk to God, you are praying;
If God talks to you, you have schizophrenia.

If the dead talk to you, you are a spiritualist;
If God talks to you, you are a schizophrenic.

--Thomas S. Szasz, The Second Sin,
Anchor/Doubleday, Garden City, NY. 1973, Page 113.
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It does sound like something he would say, although
I wish we had more people who had heard it. There
must have been somebody else there, maybe they
will come forward and verify. Then again, maybe
the additional people that heard it were members
of the administration, and we wonīt hear the truth
until a book comes out in 2008.
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Please! No more drugs for Bush. Thatīs how got that way.
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America Attacked Iraq, Because God Told George Bush To

by James Glaser
July 31, 2003

No, it wasnīt the Weapons of Mass Destruction and it wasnīt those United Nations resolutions either. Those aluminum tubes had nothing to do with it and neither did Iraqīs terrorist connections. God told George Bush to Attack Iraq,

Never mind that thousands and thousands of innocent people were killed by our forces and who really cares if little kids are dying from disease, because George Bushīs God said that all of that was OK.

Norman Podhoretz, who for thirty five years was editor of "Commentary" magazine wrote, "One hears that Bush, who entered the White House without a clear sense of what he wanted to do there, now feels there was a purpose behind his election all along; as a born again Christian, it is said he was chosen by God to eradicate the evil of terrorism from the world."

Steve Perry, of the Minneapolis City pages writes, "he really believes it."

Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, of Palestine told an Israeli newspaper Haaretz, that George Bush told him, "God told me to strike at al Quaeda and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did."

Many people in America and all around the world hear voices that tell them to do things. Some like President Bush claim the voice comes from God, others say "the devil made me do it," but all of these people have one thing in common, They are Crazy!

Sure crazy is not the word we use in this day and age. No, now we have labels and terms we use to sound polite. I would term hearing the voice of God telling you to attack and kill thousands of people, a delusion, others would say that person was suffering from schizophrenia.

What ever you term it, a President of the United States of America, that claims God is telling him what to do, should not be in charge of the most powerful military force the world has ever seen.

There are millions of Christians that pray and talk to God each and every day. Very few have ever had God tell them to harm other people, but God has told our President to "strike" other nations, twice. America is going to war on the word of God as interpreted by George Bush and that is pretty scary.

Post Script

To read more about this, do a google search for: Mahmoud Abbas + George Bush + Go

[link to www.jamesglaser.org]
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Bush: Itīs About Me and My Crusade


snip>In his acceptance speech, Bush pushed the message of the week--itīs the war, stupid--to lofty heights. Like the speakers of previous nights, he fully embraced the war in Iraq. But while John McCain, Rudy Giuliani, Zell Miller, Arnold Schwarzenegger, and Laura Bush depicted the war as an action necessary for safeguarding America, Bush also placed it within the context of an even grander mission. "America," he proclaimed from that altar-like podium, "is called to lead the cause of freedom in the new century....Freedom is not Americaīs gift to the world. It is the Almighty Godīs gift."

[link to www.thenation.com]
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Published on Wednesday, September 1, 2004 by the Free Press (Columbus, Ohio)
Gott Mit Uns: On Bush and Hitlerīs Rhetoric
by Bob Fitrakis


President Bush told Texas evangelist James Robinson that "I feel like God wants me to run for President. I canīt explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen . . . I know it wonīt be easy on me or my family, but God wants me to do it."

With 49.3% of New York City residents in a recent Zogby poll believing that some people in our government knew of the 911 attack in advance and allowed it to happen, the President as right-wing evangelical prophet is under siege in his Madison Square Garden bunker. Convention watchers should take careful note of the theocratic nationalist rhetoric at the Republican convention this week.

When was the last time a Western nation had a leader so obsessed with God and claiming God was on our side?

If you answered Adolph Hitler and Nazi Germany, youīre correct. Nothing can be more misleading than to categorize Hitler as a barbaric pagan or Godless totalitarian, like Stalin.

Both Bush and Hitler believe that they were chosen by God to lead their nations. With Hitler boldly proclaiming, before launching his doctrine of preventive war against all of Europe, that "I would like to thank Providence and the Almighty for choosing me of all people to be allowed to wage this battle for Germany."

"I follow the path assigned to me by Providence with the instinctive sureness of a sleepwalker," Hitler said.

Hitler stated in February 1940, "But there is something else I believe, and that is that there is a God. . . . And this God again has blessed our efforts during the past 13 years." After the Iraqi invasion, Bush announced, "God told me to strike at al Qaeda and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did . . . ." Neither the similarity between Hitler and Bushīs religious rhetoric nor the fact that the current Presidentīs grandfather was called "Hitlerīs Angel" by the New York Tribune for his financing of the Fuherīs rise to power is lost on Europeans.

Pat Robertson called Bush "a prophet" and Ralph Reed claimed, after the 9/11 attack, God picked the President because "he knew George Bush had the ability to lead in this compelling way." Hitler told the German people in March 1936, "Providence withdrew its protection and our people fell, fell as scarcely any other people heretofore. In this deep misery we again learn to pray. . . . The mercy of the Lord slowly returns to us again. And in this hour we sink to our knees and beseech our almighty God that he may bless us, that He may give us the strength to carry on the struggle for the freedom, the future, the honor, and the peace of our people. So help us God."

At the beginning of Hitlerīs crusade on April 12, 1922, he spelled out his version of the warmongering Jesus: "My feeling as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter." Randall Balmer in The Nation, noted that "Bushīs God is the eye-for-an- eye God of the Hebrew prophets and the Book of Revelation, the God of vengeance and retribution."

As Bush has invoked the cross of Jesus to simultaneously attack the Islamic and Arab world, Hitler also saw the value of exalting the cross while waging endless war: "To be sure, our Christian Cross should be the most exalted symbol of the struggle against the Jewish-Marxist-Bolshevik spirit.

Like Bush-ites, Hitler was fond of invoking the Ten Commandments as the foundation of Nazi Germany: "The Ten Commandments are a code of living to which thereīs no refutation. These precepts correspond to irrefragable needs of the human soul."

But if you ever wondered where Bush got his idea for so-called "faith-based initiatives" you need only consult Hitlerīs January 30, 1939 speech to the Reichstag. The Fuhrer begins, "Amongst the accusations which are directed against Germany in the so-called democracy is the charge that the National Socialist State is hostile to religion."

Hitler goes on to document how much "public monies derived from taxation through the organs of the State have been placed at the disposal of both churches [Protestant and Catholic]." Hitler gave nearly 1.8 billion Reichsmarks between 1933-1938 directly to the Christian churches. In 1938 alone, he bragged that the Nazis gave half a billion Reichsmarks from the national government and an additional 92 million Reichsmarks from the Nazi-controlled German states and parish associations.

Hitler made the intent of his faith-based initiative clear when he noted, "With a tenth of our budget for religion, we would thus have a Church devoted to the State and of unshakable loyalty. . . . the little sects, which receive only a few hundred thousand marks, are devoted to us body and soul."

Bushīs assertion that "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldnīt do my job" brings to mind God as a dull-witted, cognitively-impaired nationalist unable to utter a simple declarative sentence who spends his time preaching "blessed are the warmongers and profit-makers."

Bob Fitrakis is the Editor of the Free Press (freepress.org), a political science professor, attorney and co-author with Harvey Wasserman of George W. Bush vs. the Superpower of Peace.

[link to www.commondreams.org]
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Snip>Bush´s assertion that "I trust God speaks through me. Without that, I couldn´t do my job" brings to mind God as a dull-witted, cognitively-impaired nationalist unable to utter a simple declarative sentence who spends his time preaching "blessed are the warmongers and profit-makers."
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I remember him saying it.

That quote that Shadow posted was exactly what he said, it was televised on network news 2 years ago.

He spoke the words directly into the camera and seemed quite proud of himself.

I thought it was odd to wrap it up with "But you better hurry, or Iīll be working on the election.."

Anyway, he SAID it and not just to the Palestinians.
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Whats up with that jaw motion he makes everytime he says something now?
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The jaw motion-

Certain anti-psychotic medications and anti-seizure medications can cause this side effect.

Disturbing, isnīt it?
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We see him after heīs been medicated.

Heīs probably a twitching, drooling mess when heīs not..
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totally!!! i didnīt know if anyone else noticed that - he totally moves his JAW - like an uncontrollable reflex...

very strange
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You have to understand the blasphemy of the Bushes. When you are inducted into the higher levels of masonry/illuminati, you become "instructed by God". It is an abomination of religion as you are taking direction from a group of people who refer to themselves as the God of this world.

When Bush said "evil has a willing servant" in his state of the Union address a few years ago, he was divulging a secret password. It is the oath that these people use to swear allegiance to the people in control of this world. It is a dark and gruesome bunch of folks, hellbent on full domination of the world. The funny thing is, they exercise so much control over the world right now, that they can only be sated by more control, meaning day to day or routine control of human lives. They are so twisted and perverted that this is their goal.

Thatīs what Bush means when he says "God" told him. His superiors in the illuminati "told him".
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Could be..

Tardive Dyskinesia

In general, tardive dyskinesia (TD) refers to a wide variety of involuntary, repetitive, persistent, stereotyped movements caused by the use of drugs that block dopamine receptors (dopamine-receptor antagonists).

Involuntary movements other than dyskinesias, such as dystonia, myoclonus, tics, and tremor, as well as akathisia, may be manifestations of TD.

When used in the classic sense, TD refers to an iatrogenic disorder produced by the long-term use of drugs to treat schizophrenia that act by blocking dopamine receptors.

Dyskinesia is from the Greek words, īdysī and īkinEsisī, meaning difficulty of movement. Tardive comes from the French word (tardif) for tardy or late, meaning that the dyskinesias appear late in the course of therapy with a DRA and not as an immediate response to the use of the drug.

Tardive Dyskinesia is characterized by well-coordinated continual movements of the mouth, tongue, jaw, and cheeks (orobuccolingual dyskinesias).

Jaw movements may be lateral or may resemble chewing motions. The tongue movements may be writhing or twisting (choreoathetoid).

If trunk movements are present, they are typically in the form of pelvic thrusting; extremity movements are primarily choreoathetotic or flicking.

The involuntary abnormal repetitive movements of TD may also include lip smacking, cheek puffing, tongue thrusting, finger flicking, and trunk twisting.

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DRAs (dopamine-receptor antagonists) used to treat psychiatric conditions, also called typical antipsychotic agents, that have been shown be associated with TD include phenothiazines, butyrophenones, dibenzodiazepines, diphenylbutylpiperidines, indolones, and thioxanthenes.

Reports on the incidence of TD with the use of newer atypical antipsychotic agents such as clozapine (Clozaril®), olanzapine (Zyprexa®), risperidone (Risperdal®), and quetiapine (Seroquel®) have varied greatly, including no change in incidence and both a decreased and an increased incidence.

Risperidone (Risperdal®) appears to elicit the symptoms of TD with an increased frequency compared to the other newer atypical antipsychotic agents.

Drugs other than those used to treat psychiatric illnesses can block the dopamine receptors, and their use has also been found to be linked to TD. These include anticholinergic drugs and selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs), but whether other antidepressants such as monoamine oxidase inhibitors and tricyclics cause TD is not clear.


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the voices!

THE VOICES!!!meds
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Agree with 347.
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Thats Bogus.When it happened,it was on tape and video--if it hasīnt been deatroyed--it had all the Christian Fundamentlists--screaming--praise the lord..

Now that it has gone off track--he is backing away--wouldīnt want People to think God MISLED him---OR was that another voice he heard????
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Bush is UNFIT TO SERVE anything except time while he awaits execution.
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I talked to Jesus about this and he decided I should just say it even though it may be breaking a law.....

I happen to know that George W. Bush does not take any of those medications.

He does not take any medication meant for the crazy people.
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Thanks 284. Bush has been making similar statements ever since 9/11 and somebody was going to have to dig up the sources to shut up the
Chimplovers who were going to deny it.
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Well then 2748 itīs about time he started!!!!





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