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Occupy Wall Street My Experience...

 
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You guys crack me up. You're just as bad as the mainstream media.
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^^ QFT ^^
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And anything or anyone that doesn't agree with you must be against you, a liberal leftwinger, a dirty hippy, an unemployed college kid or some combination of these.
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Hey, most of us GLPers can get along with all of the above just fine, no problem. Some of us have even answered to those descriptions -- or may still to this day.

It's the cunning, conniving and ruthless communists who are turning this thing into a coup whom we hate.

The "liberal leftwinger, a dirty hippy, an unemployed college kid" types are simply blinded to the fact that they are being used and exploited by Marxists who have been plotting this power grab for a full century.
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Yep. Dirty hippies without a clue. Have you seen that list of demands? A scathing indictment of our educational system as none of them reflects ANY understanding of basic economics.
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You're the one without a clue...taking the statement of one individual and assuming they speak for an entire protest movement.

"Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands."

[link to occupywallst.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2721200


it's been posted on here hundreds of times now. yet there are many on here with an agenda and keep repeating it as if they are actual demands. also the OP clearly had an agenda - anyone could go to any type of gathering and pick out a fringe element to try to promote a certain point of view. about 90% of the people spewing this are doing it because they read what trinity writes. lot of ass-whiffing and brown noses around here lately
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I dont support these protests but what kind of a person makes fun of a cripple?

You people should be ashamed of yourselves.

Attack the issues, not the person's body.
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Yep. Dirty hippies without a clue. Have you seen that list of demands? A scathing indictment of our educational system as none of them reflects ANY understanding of basic economics.
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You're the one without a clue...taking the statement of one individual and assuming they speak for an entire protest movement.

"Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands."

[link to occupywallst.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2721200


And yet they keep it on their website.
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Yep. Dirty hippies without a clue. Have you seen that list of demands? A scathing indictment of our educational system as none of them reflects ANY understanding of basic economics.
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You're the one without a clue...taking the statement of one individual and assuming they speak for an entire protest movement.

"Admin note: ... There is NO official list of demands."

[link to occupywallst.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2721200


And yet they keep it on their website.
 Quoting: snark


Legalist covering their ass all over that website.

They are trying to distance themselves form legal liability for the destruction to come.

What if Trinity permapinned a thread with something like "Everybody burn all your money and march around naked", then added the disclaimer that it was not the official opion of GLP, its staff, or management?

Of course, it's their official list of demands! They are publishing it under their name.

Trust me, somewhere lawyers are quietly salivating over all this commotion.
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this picture says everything

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How it looks from the outside...

The 99%... indeed they are.
They have no demands because 99% of them don't know what they want.

They are children, throwing a tantrum, screaming in the general direction of some undefined nebulous group of financial entities.

1% of them are sowing the seeds of some very dangerous shit.

Be aware that the vast majority of them are simply useful idiots, all they know is they are 'sticking it to the Man'.

But there is something underneath, an influence that can be felt just behind the topless girls and the pithy signs.

The hushing of younger protestors when getting interviewed.
The media savvy coaching.

The careful selection of protestors interviewed on outlets like RT.

Even that smart kid on the video that went sorta viral about 2 days ago... His body language, his microexpressions when he said "this is a spontaneous movement".

Go watch it again.

Something stinks and it isn't all the garbage these protestors are leaving in your streets.
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When George Washington and crew showed up to protest they didn't carry signs begging the tyrants to recognize their rights, they showed up with guns and blew their asses away.

Until people realize that TPTB only recognize THIS type of power will anything change. Protest all you want, they're not going to give up the castles because of a bunch of whiney do-nothings...look at what THEY do...invade entire nations and kill millions.

Wake up...duh!

(Just Some Dude is not endorsing violence, just making a reality-based observation)

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Well I was at the Occupy Dallas event yesterday and was a little disapointed. It seemed to be controlled by the local socialist party and there were hippies everywhere.
Turn the circus off, or at least know you're watching one...
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To all the haters, especially TRINITY who keeps banning those who support the protest (nice going, abusing your powers and suppressing free speech - great the Truth is in YOUR hands!)

"Occupy Austin is all about ending the Fed and reasonable ideas - stop spreading DISINFO on this site"
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So they got 40k. I wonder if it's in a BANK!
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lol, nope - they decided it would be safer shoved up your ass.
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I beginning to understand why all those psychologist where hanging around watching people on these forums.

Last Edited by Shadeslay on 10/07/2011 11:05 PM
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When George Washington and crew showed up to protest they didn't carry signs begging the tyrants to recognize their rights, they showed up with guns and blew their asses away.

Until people realize that TPTB only recognize THIS type of power will anything change. Protest all you want, they're not going to give up the castles because of a bunch of whiney do-nothings...look at what THEY do...invade entire nations and kill millions.

Wake up...duh!

(Just Some Dude is not endorsing violence, just making a reality-based observation)

gonzo2
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the problem now vs george washingtons times, is that tptb now have bigger guns and other weapons. and the problem is GLOBAL, and these are globally organized by the powers.
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You guys crack me up. You're just as bad as the mainstream media. You find the craziest, wierdest person in the whole movement and paint them as the "average" protester, knowing damn well that's not how it is. Then you have a circlejerk about the "damn dirty hippies". And anything or anyone that doesn't agree with you must be against you, a liberal leftwinger, a dirty hippy, an unemployed college kid or some combination of these.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1645572

Looks to me like they took a pic of the "stub hub", the table that was granting admission. Looks to me like there was a list of "suggestions" of what the whole thing was about, what to say, and etc. Doesn't look very spontaneous to me. The only thing missing was the address to go get your check at the end.

The whole thing seems very trumped up, very artificial. The people participating seem like they don't hold down day jobs. They collect their government check, then go protest against the filthy capitalists. If they could show they are earning their own living I'd be much more inclined to pay attention to them. As it is, meh.
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This I found odd..

[link to i.imgur.com]

Coaching people what to say to the press.
 Quoting: thehitchhiker


It's not odd, it's "procedure" as discussed below.

Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured (Generated) Crisis: The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Forcing Political Change through Orchestrated Crisis.

The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.



"Barack Obama and the Strategy of Manufactured Crisis"

Excerpts:

America waits with bated breath while Washington struggles to bring the U.S. economy back from the brink of disaster. But many of those same politicians caused the crisis.

Despite the mass media news blackout, a series of books, talk radio and the blogosphere have managed to expose Barack Obama's connections to his radical mentors -- Weather Underground bombers William Ayers and Bernardine Dohrn, Communist Party member Frank Marshall Davis and others.

...Connect all the dots between Barack Obama and the Radical Left. He has spent most of his adult life deeply immersed in it.

He [Obama] can be tied directly to a malevolent overarching strategy that has motivated many, if not all, of the most destructive radical leftist organizations in the United States since the 1960s.

Liberals [have] a record of unmitigated legislative disasters, the latest of which is now being played out in the financial markets before our eyes [e.g. the volatility in the American stock exchanges and, thus, in all world financial markets].

Before the 1994 Republican takeover, Democrats had sixty years of virtually unbroken power in Congress - with substantial majorities most of the time. Can a group of smart people, studying issue after issue for years on end, with virtually unlimited resources at their command, not come up with a single policy that works? Why are they chronically incapable?

Why?

Either the Democrats are unfathomable idiots, who ignorantly pursue ever more destructive policies despite decades of contrary evidence, or they understand the consequences of their actions and relentlessly carry on anyway because they somehow benefit.

The goal is malevolent - the failure is deliberate. This method has a name: the Cloward-Piven Strategy. It describes their agenda, tactics, and long-term strategy.

The Strategy was first elucidated in the May 2, 1966 issue of The Nation magazine by a pair of radical socialist Columbia University professors, Richard Andrew Cloward and Frances Fox Piven: The Cloward-Piven Strategy of Forcing Political Change through Orchestrated Crisis.

The "Cloward-Piven Strategy" seeks to hasten the fall of capitalism by overloading the government bureaucracy with a flood of impossible demands, thus pushing society into crisis and economic collapse.

Their [Cloward & Piven's] strategy to create political, financial, and social chaos that would result in revolution blended Alinsky concepts with their more aggressive efforts at bringing about a change in U.S. government.

To achieve their revolutionary change, Cloward and Piven sought to use a cadre of aggressive organizers assisted by friendly news media to force a re-distribution of the nation's wealth

[link to www.americanthinker.com]

Frances Fox Piven, a taxpayer-funded professor at the City University of New York (CUNY), calls for a public uprising in the United States.



Occupy Wall Street Protest Speech by Frances Fox Piven in which she encourages the protestrs to form a movement to topple the canabals of Wall Street, their corporate greed, that has spread as a Neoliberal cancer across the world. To be successful, we must link arms with poor people, Black people,working people, and the Unions. We must all wrk together because this is ging to be the fight of our lives.



The seeds of a seemingly populist Revolution are indeed being sown.

Cloward and Piven were inspired by radical organizer and Hillary Clinton mentor Saul Alinsky, author of Rules for Radicals, a Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals.

In the Foreword of this book Alinky wrote this dedication:

"Lest we forget at least an over the shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins - or which is which), the very first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom - Lucifer. Saul D. Alinksy



Alinky's purpose for writing Rules for Radicals is stated on page 3:

In this book we are concerned with how to create mass organizations to seize power and give it to the people;
to realize the democratic dream of equality, justice, peace.... "Better to die on your feet than to live on your
knees. This means revolution."

Thirteen Tactics for Radicals (cited in Alinky's book Rules for Radicals):

"Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world
around them. ... Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the
Haves
." p.126

Always remember the first rule of power tactics (pps.127-134):

1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."

2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the
people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat.... [and] the collapse of communication.

3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety
and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by
seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)

4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey
their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."

5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the
opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."

6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."

7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a
limited time...."

8. "Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your
purpose."

9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."

10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign."

11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside... every positive has its negative."

12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'..."...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze
your target and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible
by their support of the target...' "One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other." (pps.127-134)

[link to library.912roll-call.org]
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My buddy and I traveled from Michigan to NYC this week. Here I'll post videos and pictures of what I saw at the protest.
 Quoting: thehitchhiker


So you are just here to find the most ridiculous ones and clown about it? I can find ridiculous people on every streetcorner.

This is just piling imaginairy shit on a pile.
 Quoting: Daikirai


Yea really.... Looks like he had to dig really hard to find the shitbags.

Lol!





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