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Bill AB499 *PASSED* Vaccination without parental consent

 
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Considering vaccines DO NOT protect against anything EVER, EVER, they only do HARM and LOTS OF IT, this is pathetic and disturbing. If you want to get sick GUARANTEED, get a vaccine. If your health means anything to you, NEVER get one, I've has 2 doctors tell me that off the record. This bill is passed by big pharma criminals who want to harm your children, and send them to the doctor to get addicted to more toxic, phony big pharma pills. Believe it.
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why do you idiots post stuff like this? do you really believe it? do you think it's just an "act of god" that diphteria, tetanus, measles, mumps, german measles and a host of other diseases rarely occur any longer? of course vaccines work, and no, most of them aren't toxic. are we over vaccinated- yes. is chicken pox, hep a, hep b and gardasil really mandatory? no. they should all be optional.
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Considering vaccines DO NOT protect against anything EVER, EVER, they only do HARM and LOTS OF IT, this is pathetic and disturbing. If you want to get sick GUARANTEED, get a vaccine. If your health means anything to you, NEVER get one, I've has 2 doctors tell me that off the record. This bill is passed by big pharma criminals who want to harm your children, and send them to the doctor to get addicted to more toxic, phony big pharma pills. Believe it.
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why do you idiots post stuff like this? do you really believe it? do you think it's just an "act of god" that diphteria, tetanus, measles, mumps, german measles and a host of other diseases rarely occur any longer? of course vaccines work, and no, most of them aren't toxic. are we over vaccinated- yes. is chicken pox, hep a, hep b and gardasil really mandatory? no. they should all be optional.
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u fail, bad.

a lot of those were eradicated with the introduction of public sewer and cleaning systems, do your research. they just happened to coincide with vaccine introductions so vaccine proponents spit that same nonsense you just did.
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Considering vaccines DO NOT protect against anything EVER, EVER, they only do HARM and LOTS OF IT, this is pathetic and disturbing. If you want to get sick GUARANTEED, get a vaccine. If your health means anything to you, NEVER get one, I've has 2 doctors tell me that off the record. This bill is passed by big pharma criminals who want to harm your children, and send them to the doctor to get addicted to more toxic, phony big pharma pills. Believe it.
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Right on 100% true - wake up people AGENDA 21
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I don't get the uproar....This isn't mandatory vaccination -this just allows teens to get the vaccine if they want to, in confidence. In CA teens already have access to testing and treatment of STDs (in confidence).

Trust me, there are some absolutely crazy parents out there that will and do abuse their kids. I know a girl that this happened to - she was 17, and had gotten on birth control and her mother found them and dragged her up to the health department (literally) and walked in and forced her daughter to tell the folks there to give her mother her medical records - and then she went home and beat the living daylights out of the girl.

I'm not saying vaccines are good or bad - but I do think teens should have a voice in the decision process (that's what freedom means, right?). After all, it is THEIR body. While I encourage teens to involve their parents in health care decisions, for some teens, good family communication is not possible or may actually be dangerous.

For the record, I do have good communication with my three (now young adult) kids. Never did get my daughter vaccinated although we all talked about it. My main concerns were long term effects - hers was that she felt like she was putting poison in her body and wasn't comfortable with it.

But not every teen has a mom they they can discuss things like this with....and this bill simply allows those that do want the vaccine to get it without having to go through their abusive parents first.....And yes, I do believe teens are old enough and cognitive enough to make these types of decisions.
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Vaccines are junk science with no validity. It's a phony excuse bog pharma to poison you and make money at the same time. Shouldn't something that is "mandatory" have at least a little real value and usefulness? Apparently not. Jerry Brown has always been a shithead.
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You obviously aren't old enough to remember Polio.
You should keep your mouth shut about things you know nothing about, cause when you open your piehole it removes all doubt that you are a retard.
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In one hand parents are held accountable for their kid's behavior, on the other hand the government takes that responsibility away.

Crazy shit, I'll tell ya....
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you signed them away to the state with their birth certificate. You registered them like chattel.
You don't own your own children.
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We'll see about that, but you better behave, or we'll take your kids away.
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As a mother of a child that was affected by the Gardisil vaccine I'm to angry to even attempt to type out a repy.

My daughter was forced by my uninformed ex-husband to get the damn shot. She has suffered with flat warts all over her face and extremities since.

You can't even begin to imagine the anger and rage I feel presently.
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I am so glad I do not live in CA. However they better not try that in my state!!!!!
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As a mother of a child that was affected by the Gardisil vaccine I'm to angry to even attempt to type out a repy.

My daughter was forced by my uninformed ex-husband to get the damn shot. She has suffered with flat warts all over her face and extremities since.

You can't even begin to imagine the anger and rage I feel presently.
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I am sorry to hear. I would recommend contacting a holistic M.D. and or getting hold of a homeopathic to mitigate this situation.
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Today Governor Brown signed into law AB499 which will allow 12 year old children to be vaccinated with out parental knowledge or consent. This currently applies to the Gardasil and Hepatitis B vaccines, but will expand to include ANY new STD vaccine that is brought to market in the future.

well...this sets a new precedent.

[link to gov.ca.gov]
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Considering vaccines DO NOT protect against anything EVER, EVER, they only do HARM and LOTS OF IT, this is pathetic and disturbing. If you want to get sick GUARANTEED, get a vaccine. If your health means anything to you, NEVER get one, I've has 2 doctors tell me that off the record. This bill is passed by big pharma criminals who want to harm your children, and send them to the doctor to get addicted to more toxic, phony big pharma pills. Believe it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1122898


why do you idiots post stuff like this? do you really believe it? do you think it's just an "act of god" that diphteria, tetanus, measles, mumps, german measles and a host of other diseases rarely occur any longer? of course vaccines work, and no, most of them aren't toxic. are we over vaccinated- yes. is chicken pox, hep a, hep b and gardasil really mandatory? no. they should all be optional.
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Back when I was a kid, it seems vaccinations were safer. Now, I see so many more horrible reactions to them. Guess what, they are being tampered with (not all possibly) to thin out the population.
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so your kid comes home from school. drops to the floor, has a seizure & you'll never know why.

sick shit indeed.

im flabbergasted
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That's my issue with abortion for minors without parental consent. My kid may be hemorrhaging from an abortion and I have no idea. They probably would be afraid to tell me if they went and had it done without telling me first... so how would someone know?

I would HOPE my kids would tell me (one teen has already came to me to ask about birth control), but what if they didn't???
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So now they can grope your children & inject them with poison.. good thing nobody stood up and protested that one.
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Government mandated poison injections.

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In one hand parents are held accountable for their kid's behavior, on the other hand the government takes that responsibility away.

Crazy shit, I'll tell ya....
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you signed them away to the state with their birth certificate. You registered them like chattel.
You don't own your own children.
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ohyeah
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As a mother of a child that was affected by the Gardisil vaccine I'm to angry to even attempt to type out a repy.

My daughter was forced by my uninformed ex-husband to get the damn shot. She has suffered with flat warts all over her face and extremities since.

You can't even begin to imagine the anger and rage I feel presently.
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Oh Sleep,
You are right...I can't even imagine how angry you must feel. You do everything to protect them and then something like this happens.
These vaccines are getting so out of hand these days.

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I don't get the uproar....This isn't mandatory vaccination -this just allows teens to get the vaccine if they want to, in confidence. In CA teens already have access to testing and treatment of STDs (in confidence).
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Read this thread and tell me you'd be comfortable allowing 12 year olds to make that decision without your knowledge or consent:

HPV Vaccine reports in VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)
Thread: HPV Vaccine reports in VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)

This isn't just treatment for std. This is a poisonous concoction that has killed girls. Caused permanent, documentable damage. Do you think the 12 year olds will make sound decisions? Do you think the school nurse is going to go over the history of the vaccine and all the reported side effects? Iow, are the kids going to make truly informed decisions?

My kids would not be allowed in a CA school. They would be withdrawn immediately.

And Brown is another slimy sellout.
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Shouldn't the government be spending money on teaching children of 12 NOT TO HAVE SEX rather than pumping them full of poison?

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EXACTLY - but you can't talk to kids at school about sex in case you give them ideas and they try it out, didn't you know...


I chose not to have my daughter vaccinated with Gardasil not because I did not want her 'protected' from cervical cancer (I myself have had that), but because I felt that they have not enough data on the long term effects and side effects of the shot. I was not willing to risk my daughter in that way. Something tells me that we will find it is a major contributor to infertility and birth defects in 20 year's time.

I can imagine how the 'you must get this shot or you will get cancer' propaganda machine will be shoved down young throats at school from the time they are 8 so that when they are old enough to be vaccinated without parental consent, they won't question the effectiveness or even the need for it and just roll up their sleeves.

Disgusting...
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This is probably a stupid question, but do they give this vaccine only to girls? Because if this is the case, then I would absolutely not allow any daughter of mine to take it. My theory also, (gut feeling really) is that it will make them sterile. Population control anyone! Since the teen years is when girls & boys become sexually active these days & end up with unwanted pregnancies, what a better way than to stop the breeding of more people. Pure evil program. It would be nice if they focused on teaching the children about all the reasons not to be sexual active.
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Fever, legions growing in mouth and vaginal area, and pain on mucous membranes, including eyes. Onset on early Tuesday morning with these symptoms waking the patient. By the the next evening spots were breaking out all over. Took child to emergency room. Attending Dr. diagnosed her with SJS(Stevens Johnson Syndrome). She had just had started a clinical trial by her prior pediatrician. It included Menactra and the HPV vaccine. He refused to believe anything was really wrong with her when we took her on that Tuesday morning. Thus, we took her to the E.R. During the stay in the PICU, the dermitologist changed diagnosis to a variation to varicella, because SJS is so rare. By Friday afternoon it was very apparent it was incorrect and she went back to the first diagnosis of SJS and told us to choose another hospital. We chose. They transported her soon after, and hospital knew what to do. By this time the spots, which had turned to boils at the first hospital were everywhere. She had not ate in over a week and was in severe pain when urinating from the open boils in her vaginal area. She was put in the ICU Burn Unit. They first gave her a catheter and treated her body like a burn patient, morphine, and continued with many eye drops to save her eyesight. She had dermatologists, infectious disease doctors, opthamologists, and others I cannot be sure of. She was given a feeding tube the next day. After running their battery of tests, they started the IVIG treatments on Monday. It was a very stressful, long, and scary two more weeks to see if her body would respond well, or if it had been to late. Finally, she went to the hospital, for she looked to be recovering. It took another week or so for her body to be weaned and accept supplement shakes. Her tongue was disformed and painful from the skin sloghing off. Plus the muscles had not been used, so talking was difficult. She lost 20 pounds, but her lips, which had continued to bleed during the time, started to heal, along with her eyes and boils on bod
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Thread: HPV Vaccine reports in VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)
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Shouldn't the government be spending money on teaching children of 12 NOT TO HAVE SEX rather than pumping them full of poison?

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EXACTLY - but you can't talk to kids at school about sex in case you give them ideas and they try it out, didn't you know...


I chose not to have my daughter vaccinated with Gardasil not because I did not want her 'protected' from cervical cancer (I myself have had that), but because I felt that they have not enough data on the long term effects and side effects of the shot. I was not willing to risk my daughter in that way. Something tells me that we will find it is a major contributor to infertility and birth defects in 20 year's time.

I can imagine how the 'you must get this shot or you will get cancer' propaganda machine will be shoved down young throats at school from the time they are 8 so that when they are old enough to be vaccinated without parental consent, they won't question the effectiveness or even the need for it and just roll up their sleeves.

Disgusting...
 Quoting: MishkaMouse


This is probably a stupid question, but do they give this vaccine only to girls? Because if this is the case, then I would absolutely not allow any daughter of mine to take it. My theory also, (gut feeling really) is that it will make them sterile. Population control anyone! Since the teen years is when girls & boys become sexually active these days & end up with unwanted pregnancies, what a better way than to stop the breeding of more people. Pure evil program. It would be nice if they focused on teaching the children about all the reasons not to be sexual active.
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Gardasil is also marketing it to boys as well. Wonder if they will offer to the boys as well!
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Sorry, last post sounded reudundant. Still having my coffee!
I am wondering if they will be offering the vaccnine to 12 year old boys as well, without parental consent.
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She has started making uncontrollable noises like chirps, squeels and what sounds like barks. They do not occur when she is taliking/singing or sleeping.She can sometime muffle the repeated sounds during school but it is hard and when she gets home it becomes so loud you can hear it from another room.
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Thread: HPV Vaccine reports in VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System)

Well, at least she has a chance of not getting some forms of hpv. Fair trade off?
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My theory also, (gut feeling really) is that it will make them sterile. Population control anyone!


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If they made that law in my area, my kids would be home schooled starting from that afternoon.
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yes, then CPS would be notified, you're unfit or psyco, or not attedning to oyur childs health needs, or, anything elce that want,

take you child and give him/her the shots without your concent.
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I dont understand why the Californians on GLP actaully defend their state???

WTF is wrong with you?

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Sorry, last post sounded reudundant. Still having my coffee!
I am wondering if they will be offering the vaccnine to 12 year old boys as well, without parental consent.
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