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Bill AB499 *PASSED* Vaccination without parental consent

 
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10/10/2011 02:38 AM
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Bill AB499 *PASSED* Vaccination without parental consent
Today Governor Brown signed into law AB499 which will allow 12 year old children to be vaccinated with out parental knowledge or consent. This currently applies to the Gardasil and Hepatitis B vaccines, but will expand to include ANY new STD vaccine that is brought to market in the future.

well...this sets a new precedent.

[link to gov.ca.gov]
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10/10/2011 02:51 AM
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Wtf? Another politician on the take from Pharmaceutical companies?
Guardasil clearly states it does NOT prevent cervical cancer, yet its being forced like a vaccine for some kind of pandemic?
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10/10/2011 02:54 AM
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This WON'T fly in middle America.

Even middle America California style won't go for this.

You mess with the health of people's kids without their consent and they WILL HUNT YOU DOWN.

Goodbye (again) Jerry Brown.

You better steal enough to retire on because you ain't getting re-elected.
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10/10/2011 03:01 AM
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If they made that law in my area, my kids would be home schooled starting from that afternoon.
Be aware of what you KNOW and what you BELIEVE. Don't ever let what you believe block the path of knowledge, for knowledge is truth. Belief is a temporary crutch at best, and crutches are for disabled people.
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10/10/2011 03:01 AM
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Gardisil has a shocking record, looks like Mr Brown may end up with blood on his hands.

Oh well im sure he got a worthwhile "donation" for signing this in.
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10/10/2011 03:10 AM
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Gardisil has a shocking record, looks like Mr Brown may end up with blood on his hands.

Oh well im sure he got a worthwhile "donation" for signing this in.
 Quoting: krave


Its bullshit there is no 100% proof HPV causes any fucking cancers at all, the data merely shows it it "might" contribute.
Yet they can sell this garbage and push it based on maybes.
Its a fucking sham like the rest of the science for payment.
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10/10/2011 03:15 AM

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Sick shit.
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10/10/2011 03:23 AM
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HPV types 16 and 18 cause an estimated 70% of cervical cancers

Estimated! cruise
Oh cool lets just pluck a number out of the air so we can sell some crap!
krave  (OP)

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10/10/2011 03:50 AM
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so your kid comes home from school. drops to the floor, has a seizure & you'll never know why.

sick shit indeed.

im flabbergasted
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10/10/2011 04:05 AM
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OMG! Without knowing whom the F88k you are and the rights you have,, you and yours will surely perish. put down the remote and go to Blacks law dictionary, look up proletariat... yup, thats you.. Dumass, pronounced dum ass [its french for your a tard]
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10/10/2011 04:25 AM
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In one hand parents are held accountable for their kid's behavior, on the other hand the gouvernment takes that responsibility away.

Crazy shit, I'll tell ya....
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10/10/2011 04:26 AM
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scary
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10/10/2011 04:36 AM
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Considering vaccines DO NOT protect against anything EVER, EVER, they only do HARM and LOTS OF IT, this is pathetic and disturbing. If you want to get sick GUARANTEED, get a vaccine. If your health means anything to you, NEVER get one, I've has 2 doctors tell me that off the record. This bill is passed by big pharma criminals who want to harm your children, and send them to the doctor to get addicted to more toxic, phony big pharma pills. Believe it.
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10/10/2011 04:38 AM
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Vaccines are junk science with no validity. It's a phony excuse bog pharma to poison you and make money at the same time. Shouldn't something that is "mandatory" have at least a little real value and usefulness? Apparently not. Jerry Brown has always been a shithead.
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10/10/2011 04:39 AM
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Considering vaccines DO NOT protect against anything EVER, EVER, they only do HARM and LOTS OF IT, this is pathetic and disturbing. If you want to get sick GUARANTEED, get a vaccine. If your health means anything to you, NEVER get one, I've has 2 doctors tell me that off the record. This bill is passed by big pharma criminals who want to harm your children, and send them to the doctor to get addicted to more toxic, phony big pharma pills. Believe it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1122898


It's not easy to sell medication to healthy people, you'll have to make them sick first.
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10/10/2011 05:41 AM
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If they made that law in my area, my kids would be home schooled starting from that afternoon.
 Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0


Yup, mine too
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10/10/2011 05:54 AM
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10/10/2011 06:57 AM
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In one hand parents are held accountable for their kid's behavior, on the other hand the government takes that responsibility away.

Crazy shit, I'll tell ya....
 Quoting: Searchalot


you signed them away to the state with their birth certificate. You registered them like chattel.
You don't own your own children.
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10/10/2011 07:09 AM
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Political suicide....especially in California.

Pretty brazen of him considering that they now admit a definitive link between the swine flu vac and nervous system disorders.

Why would any politician pass this? Did he get paid?

Mind boggling.
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10/10/2011 07:12 AM
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If they made that law in my area, my kids would be home schooled starting from that afternoon.
 Quoting: 13.0.0.0.0


Yup, mine too
 Quoting: curve


Absolutely...and my kiddo will be with me at the statehouse protesting that day if it happens in Indiana!
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10/10/2011 07:18 AM
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[link to leginfo.ca.gov]
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10/10/2011 07:18 AM
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If anyone would do such things with one of my kids, beaware, im gonna totally flip off then.
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10/10/2011 07:20 AM
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Is the state going to pay for all these vaccines? Seriously, if you take your kid to the Dr for a 3 shot Gardisil series, it costs between $300-500. (last cost number I saw, may have come down in price) This is not a cheap vaccine, to my knowledge! So who is paying for this series if it's given at a school w/o parental consent?

I am totally against this new law! It is an outrage! Cali parents need to start showing their teen kids the truth right now! You know the state/school will be scaring the kids into getting these jabs. As parents, we try to protect our kids. But sometimes you have to fight fire with fire and SHOW them some very ugly truths to make your point be heard!

The only possible positive side to this story is also very sad. As more kids get this vaccine, more bad reactions will be reported! It's sad to use a state's population as a guinea pig, but this may be what it takes to get it off the market for good!
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10/10/2011 07:20 AM
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so has your Governor Brown received some money from the pharmaceutics ?

Could someone check that please ?
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10/10/2011 07:24 AM
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If anyone would do such things with one of my kids, beaware, im gonna totally flip off then.
 Quoting: Rawfox


Speaking as a mother of quite a few children I have to say that I have brought them up to be very confident in saying NO to adults.

In our local school my then 6 to 16 year olds were being bullied (for want of a better term) by their schools into Biometric systems, they all flat refused.

A couple of years ago my 12 year old as she was then came home with an HPV vaccine consent form. Together we discussed this vaccine, the fact we do not vaccine anyone for anything and I said the decision was hers.

She went to school the next day and said NO. The nurse tried to scare her into having the vaccine and my usually timid daughter held her ground and said NO.

Sit your children down and educate them, inform them, arm them with knowledge!

Shouldn't the government be spending money on teaching children of 12 NOT TO HAVE SEX rather than pumping them full of poison?

*pushes soap box back into room*
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10/10/2011 07:29 AM
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It's just another depopulation ploy to make perfectly healthy young teens infertile.
As well as sick to make some bucks off.
hit 2 birds with one stone.
What's this frickin world coming to?
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10/10/2011 07:31 AM
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All I can say is shame on you, Governor Jerry Brown. This is a despicable act that deserves the contempt of a nation. Children, parents, and America all lost today. And guess who won? Big Pharma. Again. Since kids have been given the decision of consent, we're sure to see advertisements and subliminal programming messages in popular kid's programming, urging them to take the vaccine. This is evil, pure evil.
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10/10/2011 07:41 AM
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Shouldn't the government be spending money on teaching children of 12 NOT TO HAVE SEX rather than pumping them full of poison?

 Quoting: Rawfox


EXACTLY - but you can't talk to kids at school about sex in case you give them ideas and they try it out, didn't you know...


I chose not to have my daughter vaccinated with Gardasil not because I did not want her 'protected' from cervical cancer (I myself have had that), but because I felt that they have not enough data on the long term effects and side effects of the shot. I was not willing to risk my daughter in that way. Something tells me that we will find it is a major contributor to infertility and birth defects in 20 year's time.

I can imagine how the 'you must get this shot or you will get cancer' propaganda machine will be shoved down young throats at school from the time they are 8 so that when they are old enough to be vaccinated without parental consent, they won't question the effectiveness or even the need for it and just roll up their sleeves.

Disgusting...
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10/10/2011 07:48 AM
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Wait, let me guess, he is on that special governor board that was created? Not like it was not tried before, Gov. Perry did the same thing did he not? Civil servants steppin out of line.
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Shouldn't the government be spending money on teaching children of 12 NOT TO HAVE SEX rather than pumping them full of poison?

 Quoting: Rawfox


EXACTLY - but you can't talk to kids at school about sex in case you give them ideas and they try it out, didn't you know...
 Quoting: MishkaMouse


LOL

Well all mine are taught as they grow up, never any 'lesson' as such just a gradual need to know release of info.





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