The Smartest thing the TEA PARTY and RON PAUL can do is support HERMAN CAIN!!!!!!! | |
Butterfly girl User ID: 865359 United States 10/14/2011 01:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's not that I do not like Ron Paul's ideas....it's just that there are multiple thousands of people who will vote in the caucus' who will not vote for Ron Paul. There are many reasons..including his stance on drugs,defense,supporting the OWS movement...So I'm going for Cain this year at the Iowa caucus Last Edited by Butterfly girl on 10/14/2011 01:05 PM To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven... A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3218933 Germany 10/14/2011 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Tactical voting is dumb, vote with your heart. Cains policies are deeply flawed not to mention his 999 pizza deal tax break. If you truly believe that his 999 is the answer, go for it. Those who want local government, local education, no more foreign useless wars, no more Rothschild central bank that devalues your own currency - vote for Ron. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1505675 United States 10/14/2011 01:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't get me wrong, I am very impressed with Cain's resume but come on...he IS a Fed Head. Red flag should be that the media is pumping him up so much. I'm no racist...the guy is impressive as all get-out but he's no "outsider"... I also wonder if he's a mason. He went very far up the ladder in business; especially for Coca-Cola. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3218933 Germany 10/14/2011 01:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | yes...we all need to get smart and play a strategy here...or Romney will get the nomination...or worse Perry..and then 4 more years of Obama. You Ron Paul supporters need to realize what you will be helping create. Quoting: Butterfly girl It's not that I do not like Ron Paul's ideas....it's just that there are multiple thousands of people who will vote in the caucus' who will not vote for Ron Paul. There are many reasons..including his stance on drugs,defense,supporting the OWS movement...So I'm going for Cain this year at the Iowa caucus Ron Paul does not support the OWS, he supports their right to PROTEST like any citizen. Cain - known federal reserve, council on foreign relations AND AIPAC shill why on earth would any sane person consider such a known crook to run the entire country? |
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Jake101 User ID: 3167927 United States 10/14/2011 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ron Paul is obviously no fan of the Fed, either. Herman Cain also supports state limitations of the Bill of Rights. Cain fails to understand that the Bill of Rights and Constitution as a whole is a set of limitations on ALL forms of Government. They're "God given Rights," that are inalienable from ALL powers. |
Butterfly girl User ID: 865359 United States 10/14/2011 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll say it again,I guess... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3279787 DO YOU GUYS REALLY THINK THIS 999 PLAN WILL BE FIXED AT 9%? HELL NO IT WONT. IT WILL GO UP AND UP AND UP! ANYONE??? my taxes will be far less. Also most peoples taxes will be far less. Once your paycheck no longer has social security and medicare taken out 9% income tax will be a breeze! Also...9% to everybody is fair. Industries will be fighting to get in America with their low 9% tax. There will be jobs again. It could kick start so many manufacturing jobs... It IS a good plan. Why not let America soar again as a huge manufacturing country? To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven... A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance.... |
WhiteLight User ID: 2929034 Portugal 10/14/2011 01:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Here is why: Quoting: <<FOCUS HARDER>> Everyone complains that the Tea Party is racist - Here is a good way to show they are just hard working Americans who love the constitution, want a balanced budget and smaller Government. Herman Cain is offering an economic solution, something that so far no one has come up with at all, at least not anything anyone can understand. This is a good way for the Tea Party to interject their basic ideas of smaller Government and less spending into the 999 plan. If they begin to support Herman Cain, maybe Ron Paul will be brought on as an economic advisor. Win Win If the Tea Party gets behind Herman Cain, Cain WILL get the nomination and in turn, Obama will lose. Can you even envision a Cain Obama debate? Cain would destroy Barry. Cain is all for taking on Eric Cantor as a Vice President. Cantor nearly single handedly stopped Obama and his croneys from driving our economy into the ground even more with bigger Government, higher taxes and more spending. Herman Cain might actually give Blacks a REAL voice in Washington, not just "here's your handout" He could get them working, give them some REAL pride "Agian, not just OBAMA gonna pay my rent" crap. Teach them that if they work hard they can do anything. Cain is the anti-Obama. He was in boardrooms while Obama was organizing union thugs. We Need Cain. Good Grief all these AC's with absolutely NO idea what is at stake here.. thank you for your post OP 5 stars and good karma for going with the IDEA that will take back the White House and put this country on the RIGHT ROAD! I am a Child of God |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 3279787 United States 10/14/2011 01:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll say it again,I guess... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3279787 DO YOU GUYS REALLY THINK THIS 999 PLAN WILL BE FIXED AT 9%? HELL NO IT WONT. IT WILL GO UP AND UP AND UP! ANYONE??? my taxes will be far less. Also most peoples taxes will be far less. Once your paycheck no longer has social security and medicare taken out 9% income tax will be a breeze! Also...9% to everybody is fair. Industries will be fighting to get in America with their low 9% tax. There will be jobs again. It could kick start so many manufacturing jobs... It IS a good plan. Why not let America soar again as a huge manufacturing country? It will not stay at 9%. IT IS A GOOD STARTING OFF POINT,I GUESS. lol |
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Jake101 User ID: 3167927 United States 10/14/2011 01:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voting wasn't meant to be tactical. In fact, it was quite simple. "Who do you want to be president?" Now, the system has been completely assimilated into the biggest sham the world has ever seen. All you're doing is "tactically pretending to have an effect." Last Edited by Jake101 on 10/14/2011 01:26 PM |
Butterfly girl User ID: 865359 United States 10/14/2011 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voting wasn't meant to be tactical. In fact, it was quite simple. "Who do you want to be president?" Now, the system has been completely assimilated into the biggest sham the world has ever seen. All you're doing is "tactically pretending to have an effect." wrong...in anything...as long as it involves thinking human beings...there is tactical thinking. from war to reality tv shows...to how you will buy something..to how you are gonna get your wife to put out tonight Last Edited by Butterfly girl on 10/14/2011 01:31 PM To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven... A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance.... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1361018 United States 10/14/2011 01:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I like pretty much everything Herman Cain says.... but his candidacy is simply a purposeful DILUTION OF THE CONSERVATIVE CANDIDATES. Romney was TPTB guy, but they tried to switch horses... kind of like they did with Obama and Hillary 3 1/2 years ago. Perry was/is a bust, so Romney is the guy. (Don't believe me just watch FOXNEWS fore a few days.) Cain has been overtaking the chosen one so they bust out non candidate Christie to endorse Romney. Christie.......A NON CANDIDATE that was created for such a time as this. Herman Cain may get the VP slot if he is not trashed too much by Convention time... but his REAL job is to dilute the attention, time, and money away from the TRUE Conservatives, Santorum, Bachmann, and Paul. Gingrich is a genius Conservative but he is compromised by some sort of blackmail.. at least that is my guess. I don't trust him, but he is the smartest Conservative in America... BY FAR. If Cain does not get the VP slot they will give it to Marco Rubio, a Republican NON NATURAL BORN CITIZEN to protect the Dim Traitors that put Obama in office... and complete the destruction of the Constitution. But make no mistake, Cain is NOT a true presidential candidate he is a shill candidate. |
Jake101 User ID: 3167927 United States 10/14/2011 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voting wasn't meant to be tactical. In fact, it was quite simple. "Who do you want to be president?" Now, the system has been completely assimilated into the biggest sham the world has ever seen. All you're doing is "tactically pretending to have an effect." wrong...in anything...as long as it involves thinking human beings...there is tactical thinking. from war to reality tv shows...to how you will buy something..to how you are gonna get your wife to put out tonight No. And until you realize this, nothing will change. No amount of "tactical voting" will change this situation. |
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libertyfree11b User ID: 3271686 United States 10/14/2011 01:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ron Paul does not support the OWS, he supports their right to PROTEST like any citizen. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218933 Cain - known federal reserve, council on foreign relations AND AIPAC shill why on earth would any sane person consider such a known crook to run the entire country? ^this^ Ron Paul has told several people that he "doesn't know enough about why they are there" to support them.... so quit trying to say he supports them you tard nuggets! “I am battle-tested bayonets, bro.” -Charlie Sheen |
Butterfly girl User ID: 865359 United States 10/14/2011 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Voting wasn't meant to be tactical. In fact, it was quite simple. "Who do you want to be president?" Now, the system has been completely assimilated into the biggest sham the world has ever seen. All you're doing is "tactically pretending to have an effect." wrong...in anything...as long as it involves thinking human beings...there is tactical thinking. from war to reality tv shows...to how you will buy something..to how you are gonna get your wife to put out tonight No. And until you realize this, nothing will change. No amount of "tactical voting" will change this situation. do not be naive...of course there will be tactical thinking..unless maybe not you...but everyone else.. To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven... A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance.... |
Jake101 User ID: 3167927 United States 10/14/2011 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake101 Voting wasn't meant to be tactical. In fact, it was quite simple. "Who do you want to be president?" Now, the system has been completely assimilated into the biggest sham the world has ever seen. All you're doing is "tactically pretending to have an effect." wrong...in anything...as long as it involves thinking human beings...there is tactical thinking. from war to reality tv shows...to how you will buy something..to how you are gonna get your wife to put out tonight No. And until you realize this, nothing will change. No amount of "tactical voting" will change this situation. do not be naive...of course there will be tactical thinking..unless maybe not you...but everyone else.. You're not making sense. |
Butterfly girl User ID: 865359 United States 10/14/2011 01:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Butterfly girl wrong...in anything...as long as it involves thinking human beings...there is tactical thinking. from war to reality tv shows...to how you will buy something..to how you are gonna get your wife to put out tonight No. And until you realize this, nothing will change. No amount of "tactical voting" will change this situation. do not be naive...of course there will be tactical thinking..unless maybe not you...but everyone else.. You're not making sense. This means everyone else will be thinking this way..except for you To everything there is a season, and a time to every purpose under heaven... A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance.... |
americanpatriot User ID: 1390159 United States 10/14/2011 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Herman Cain is another Federal Reserve bankster cartel TROJAN HORSE! Quoting: Torchbearer IF that weasel gets into office,he will pull an "OBAMA" and reverse any "conservative" positions he espoused in his campaign rhetoric. ... Actually, Herman Cain's "conservative" creds go back to 1993 when he debated then President Bill Clinton in a town hall meeting on the merits of HillaryCare. Cain said in so-many words that HilaryCare would destroy businesses. Here's the video: So Cain isn't faking his conservative creds to get elected! Excerpt from Wiki: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Role in the defeat of the Clinton health care plan Cain publicly opposed the 1993/1994 health care plan of President Bill Clinton. As president-elect of the National Restaurant Association, he challenged Bill Clinton on the costs of the employer mandate contained within the bill and criticized its effect on small businesses. Bob Cohn of Newsweek described Cain as one of the primary opponents of the plan: The Clintons would later blame "Harry and Louise," the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John. Herman Cain is the president of Godfather's Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo.. Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the "employer mandate." Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. "Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate," he told the president. "In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn't work that way." Joshua Green of The Atlantic has called Cain's exchange with Clinton his "auspicious debut on the national political stage." Conservative politician and former Housing Secretary, Jack Kemp was so impressed with Cain's performance that he chartered a plane to Nebraska to meet Cain after the debate. Cain credits Kemp with his becoming interested in politics. [end excerpt] As for being involved with the Fed, yeah, it's a mark on his resume. But I'll quote a famous philosopher. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone! Cain's overall resume is very impressive and he speaks from the heart, just like Ron Paul. But Cain has more charisma and much more of a chance of beating Obama than Paul. As much as I also like Paul, he's got the charisma of a bat. He makes logical sense, but he can come across as some crotchety old fool to average Americans that don't understand the Constitution. So Cain has my vote... Last Edited by americanpatriot on 10/14/2011 01:49 PM americanpatriot |
Jake101 User ID: 3167927 United States 10/14/2011 01:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jake101 No. And until you realize this, nothing will change. No amount of "tactical voting" will change this situation. do not be naive...of course there will be tactical thinking..unless maybe not you...but everyone else.. You're not making sense. This means everyone else will be thinking this way..except for you Then everyone will be disappointed, except me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2166173 United States 10/14/2011 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously folks, Paul is the only candidate with both the money and grassroots support that can legitly challenge the corporate candidates which is why the msm is giving him zero coverage. That in itself ought to say something, but i bet that's a conspiracy to in order to make everyone think he's the anti establishment candidate when in reality he's in with em |
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americanpatriot User ID: 1390159 United States 10/14/2011 01:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Seriously folks, Paul is the only candidate with both the money and grassroots support that can legitly challenge the corporate candidates which is why the msm is giving him zero coverage. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2166173 First off, Perry, Romney, and Herman Cain are all wealthier than Ron Paul. They can use their own wealth to fund their campaigns. Romney spent a ton of his own money in 2008, before losing to McCain. I agree with you that Ron Paul has a strong, rabid, loyal grassroots base. But I'll tell you what... Herman Cain surged 20+ points and is getting interest from my family and friends. Some of which voted for Obama and now see the error of their ways. Lots of them "wanted" to like Perry, the so-called most conservative candidate, but he BOMBED in the debates. All of them agreed that Cain was very likable and did well in the debates. americanpatriot |
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americanpatriot User ID: 1390159 United States 10/14/2011 01:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, on Herman Cain - past history like Enron when he was on the Board of Directors and they screwed people at whatever company it was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2572530 Can be looked up! 1) Nobody saw the Enron scandal coming. It was a multi-billion dollar company. 2) Cain was probably 1 of 60 Board of Directors. Many of these titles can be honorary. Not saying his was, but I have no idea. 3) EVERY stock-traded company encourages their employees to invest their 401K heavily into the corporation's stock. You expect every human being to have a 100% perfect record? Sheesh! I'm sure I could find plenty of dumb comments, positions, or mistakes made by Ron Paul. You need to look at a man/woman's whole life picture and not nit-picky sh-t. unless you're perfect. In which case, I take back everything I just said. americanpatriot |
americanpatriot User ID: 1390159 United States 10/14/2011 02:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of them agreed that Cain was very likable and did well in the debates. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2166173 None of the Republican front-runners are worth voting for, unfortunately. So if it's Cain, Romney, Perry, or Newt vs. Obama you won't vote for them? Has to be Ron Paul or you'll sit home? [sigh] 4 more years of Obama, & economic collapse here we come! americanpatriot |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2166173 United States 10/14/2011 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Herman Cain is another Federal Reserve bankster cartel TROJAN HORSE! Quoting: Torchbearer IF that weasel gets into office,he will pull an "OBAMA" and reverse any "conservative" positions he espoused in his campaign rhetoric. ... Actually, Herman Cain's "conservative" creds go back to 1993 when he debated then President Bill Clinton in a town hall meeting on the merits of HillaryCare. Cain said in so-many words that HilaryCare would destroy businesses. Here's the video: So Cain isn't faking his conservative creds to get elected! Excerpt from Wiki: [link to en.wikipedia.org] Role in the defeat of the Clinton health care plan Cain publicly opposed the 1993/1994 health care plan of President Bill Clinton. As president-elect of the National Restaurant Association, he challenged Bill Clinton on the costs of the employer mandate contained within the bill and criticized its effect on small businesses. Bob Cohn of Newsweek described Cain as one of the primary opponents of the plan: The Clintons would later blame "Harry and Louise," the fictional couple in the ads aired by the insurance industry, for undermining health reform. But the real saboteurs are named Herman and John. Herman Cain is the president of Godfather's Pizza and president-elect of the National Restaurant Association. An articulate entrepreneur, Cain transformed the debate when he challenged Clinton at a town meeting in Kansas City, Mo.. Cain asked the president what he was supposed to say to the workers he would have to lay off because of the cost of the "employer mandate." Clinton responded that there would be plenty of subsidies for small businessmen, but Cain persisted. "Quite honestly, your calculation is inaccurate," he told the president. "In the competitive marketplace it simply doesn't work that way." Joshua Green of The Atlantic has called Cain's exchange with Clinton his "auspicious debut on the national political stage." Conservative politician and former Housing Secretary, Jack Kemp was so impressed with Cain's performance that he chartered a plane to Nebraska to meet Cain after the debate. Cain credits Kemp with his becoming interested in politics. [end excerpt] As for being involved with the Fed, yeah, it's a mark on his resume. But I'll quote a famous philosopher. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone! Cain's overall resume is very impressive and he speaks from the heart, just like Ron Paul. But Cain has more charisma and much more of a chance of beating Obama than Paul. As much as I also like Paul, he's got the charisma of a bat. He makes logical sense, but he can come across as some crotchety old fool to average Americans that don't understand the Constitution. So Cain has my vote... Gotta have money to win, Cain has none nor any organization in any of the early states. Paul on the other hand has both, just being honest. Paul is in a much better position to pull this off, we'll see who gets more national delegates, won't be close.. www.blackthisout.com |