I laugh because the only thing you people can attack on the first post in that fact that you can get a car cheaper than $18,000.


Ok people you win. Now the math says you might have shit paid off and out of debt when you are 79 instead of 80 something.

I already explain what I mean't by Piece of shit. Cars are not made to last anymore. They make them fail and have problems on purpose so you have to get a new one or buy parts. They make them so you can't work on them period!!!
I doubt any car made today will last 30 years. So that means you must budget this in and if you kept a car 15 years, your value of that car is almost nothing.


The point of the thread was to show that these kids and most folks don't have a chance.

If you made your money, good for you, but if you had to try now you would be screwed. Be thankful and quit talking shit.

You all are posting negative shit like
"Get a Job"
"Live in Your means" etc

To "live in your means" is an old expression. It would mean never going into debt and only buying what you can afford. I already showed you this was almost impossible. You borrow you are owned. You don't borrow you are also a slave and owned.


If you don't agree then prove how someone gets ahead.
Show why these kids are bums.
Give an example in detail on how to get around the math and become great like you. How to take on NO DEBT, NEVER HAVE PROBLEMS IN LIFE, ALWAYS KEEP A JOB, ETC.

And I am not talking about the B.S. walked in snow uphill to school shit.