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Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!

 
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Wow. I love how so many people say, "Well, 20 years ago..." or "in the 80's when I...". Good grief people, open your damn eyes. The world has CHANGED. A LOT. The opportunities that existed then, DO NOT EXIST NOW. No amount of "hard work" is going to change that. America is not the same place it was even 15 years ago. The old mantra doesn't ring true anymore: If you work hard, get a good education, and stay honest the the sky is the limit for what you can achieve. All my life I was told that if I got good grade, worked really hard, and kept my nose clean, I could live the American dream. My parents, and their parents all had that opportunity, I expected it to be there for me as well. I was, and still am prepared to give it my all to achieve it too. The problem is, it's gone. The dream is gone. Dead. It. Does not. EXIST.

IMHO, THAT is what the OWS people are feeling they are not getting, they just have a really piss poor way of articulating it. The opportunity they were expecting, nay, entitled to, all because we live in the the "Greatest Country on Earth™" has been ripped away from them by greedy corporations, unions, and wall street,greedy banks and the fed, and greedy governments.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.
 Quoting: Skeptically Inclined


No, it's not the same - it's EASIER...
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Re: Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!
YA KNOW WHAT?
KARMA WILL SET THIS ALL STRAIGHT.
THE DAY THE TABLES TURN YOU'LL WHIMPERING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH :)
UNFORTUNATE, BUT WHEN YOU ARE UNWILLING TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND INSTEAD BEAT YOUR FELLOW MAN INTO THE GROUND, THERE IS ONLY THING THAT CAN HAPPEN: YOU WILL GET YOURS!
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YA KNOW WHAT?
KARMA WILL SET THIS ALL STRAIGHT.
THE DAY THE TABLES TURN YOU'LL WHIMPERING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH :)
UNFORTUNATE, BUT WHEN YOU ARE UNWILLING TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND INSTEAD BEAT YOUR FELLOW MAN INTO THE GROUND, THERE IS ONLY THING THAT CAN HAPPEN: YOU WILL GET YOURS!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 988185


I've already gotten mine, bitch. I clawed my own way out off the street.

I know what it takes to succeed. All you're doing is whining. You're not helping anyone or anything.

You're little more than a worthless little poverty pimp.
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YA KNOW WHAT?
KARMA WILL SET THIS ALL STRAIGHT.
THE DAY THE TABLES TURN YOU'LL WHIMPERING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH :)
UNFORTUNATE, BUT WHEN YOU ARE UNWILLING TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND INSTEAD BEAT YOUR FELLOW MAN INTO THE GROUND, THERE IS ONLY THING THAT CAN HAPPEN: YOU WILL GET YOURS!
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Does thinking like that get you through the day?
No wonder you are unemployed. Must be a blast to work with.

Reach over to the left of your keyboard and press the key that says "Caps Lock" (even it isn't in all caps).
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And another thing....

It's fucking congress that needs to stop BORROWING money.

The OWSers are supporting the morans who are handing them tens of trillions of dollars in debt.

Now, can someone "splain" that one to me? Good luck.
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YA KNOW WHAT?
KARMA WILL SET THIS ALL STRAIGHT.
THE DAY THE TABLES TURN YOU'LL WHIMPERING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH :)
UNFORTUNATE, BUT WHEN YOU ARE UNWILLING TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND INSTEAD BEAT YOUR FELLOW MAN INTO THE GROUND, THERE IS ONLY THING THAT CAN HAPPEN: YOU WILL GET YOURS!
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Where do you "caps lock" morans get the idea that THAT brings credibility to your posts?

I've got a news flash for you - it does the opposite.
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omg, yeah man, i mean how do you actually argue with someone who thinks its wrong to help the poor, I mean really? It's like they've never watched a christmas movie or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3453488


I've let friends of mine stay at my place for months at a time free of charge cause they didn't have jobs or anywhere else to go. Some of them are not mentally capable of holding jobs

One of my best friend has been living on the streets for 2 years since my landlord caugth on and kicked him out and he has less complaints then all of you motherfuckers and would give the shirt off his back for a friend

This attitude of entitlement is complete bullshit. Be thankful you did well in school and got to experience college. The rest of us have grown up being told that we are nothing but failures, losers and low lives. We have no sympathy for your cause
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733180


Why should I "be thankful" I did well in school? It's not luck.

If you've been told you're a loser your whole life, grow up. Parents that do that to their kids are the losers. At some point you have to think for yourself. Why not start right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218991


constantly being pulled out of normal classes and put in special ed classes. Constant testing to figure out what was wrong with me. diagnosed with some kind of learning disability. Spending 3 hours a night on a half hours worth of homework. abundant mental anguish and anxiety forced me to leave the public school system.

The education system is built to break people down and weed out the failures from the successes. Thats all its about

So yeah. It is pretty much luck
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omg, yeah man, i mean how do you actually argue with someone who thinks its wrong to help the poor, I mean really? It's like they've never watched a christmas movie or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3453488


I've let friends of mine stay at my place for months at a time free of charge cause they didn't have jobs or anywhere else to go. Some of them are not mentally capable of holding jobs

One of my best friend has been living on the streets for 2 years since my landlord caugth on and kicked him out and he has less complaints then all of you motherfuckers and would give the shirt off his back for a friend

This attitude of entitlement is complete bullshit. Be thankful you did well in school and got to experience college. The rest of us have grown up being told that we are nothing but failures, losers and low lives. We have no sympathy for your cause
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733180


Why should I "be thankful" I did well in school? It's not luck.

If you've been told you're a loser your whole life, grow up. Parents that do that to their kids are the losers. At some point you have to think for yourself. Why not start right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218991


constantly being pulled out of normal classes and put in special ed classes. Constant testing to figure out what was wrong with me. diagnosed with some kind of learning disability. Spending 3 hours a night on a half hours worth of homework. abundant mental anguish and anxiety forced me to leave the public school system.

The education system is built to break people down and weed out the failures from the successes. Thats all its about

So yeah. It is pretty much luck
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733180


Some of the world's greatest business successes had average to below average IQs.

Henry Ford is a case in point. The press made big jokes about how stupid he was. His response, "I don't need to know everything myself when I can call someone to get the answers I need."

It's a fact, the A and B students go to work for the C students - they're the ones who create businesses.
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Re: Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!
^ Yeah no kidding ^

Live beneath your means, whatever your means are.

And don't plan to work for a company for the rest of your life. You'll never be wealthy working for someone else.

"Oh woe is me, I only make $40k a year".

STFU. Don't make stupid debt decisions.
 Quoting: WalkersEverywhere


Walkers, you're way off base on this one.

$40K a year is poverty level.
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Re: Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!
Wow. I love how so many people say, "Well, 20 years ago..." or "in the 80's when I...". Good grief people, open your damn eyes. The world has CHANGED. A LOT. The opportunities that existed then, DO NOT EXIST NOW. No amount of "hard work" is going to change that. America is not the same place it was even 15 years ago. The old mantra doesn't ring true anymore: If you work hard, get a good education, and stay honest the the sky is the limit for what you can achieve. All my life I was told that if I got good grade, worked really hard, and kept my nose clean, I could live the American dream. My parents, and their parents all had that opportunity, I expected it to be there for me as well. I was, and still am prepared to give it my all to achieve it too. The problem is, it's gone. The dream is gone. Dead. It. Does not. EXIST.

IMHO, THAT is what the OWS people are feeling they are not getting, they just have a really piss poor way of articulating it. The opportunity they were expecting, nay, entitled to, all because we live in the the "Greatest Country on Earth™" has been ripped away from them by greedy corporations, unions, and wall street,greedy banks and the fed, and greedy governments.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.
 Quoting: Skeptically Inclined


No, it's not the same - it's EASIER...
 Quoting: TexasGirl


You can't be serious... Please, elaborate. I am dumbfounded by your statement. Easier? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you are just trolling. There is no way that someone could be so ignorant.
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omg, yeah man, i mean how do you actually argue with someone who thinks its wrong to help the poor, I mean really? It's like they've never watched a christmas movie or something.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3453488


I've let friends of mine stay at my place for months at a time free of charge cause they didn't have jobs or anywhere else to go. Some of them are not mentally capable of holding jobs

One of my best friend has been living on the streets for 2 years since my landlord caugth on and kicked him out and he has less complaints then all of you motherfuckers and would give the shirt off his back for a friend

This attitude of entitlement is complete bullshit. Be thankful you did well in school and got to experience college. The rest of us have grown up being told that we are nothing but failures, losers and low lives. We have no sympathy for your cause
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733180


Why should I "be thankful" I did well in school? It's not luck.

If you've been told you're a loser your whole life, grow up. Parents that do that to their kids are the losers. At some point you have to think for yourself. Why not start right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218991


constantly being pulled out of normal classes and put in special ed classes. Constant testing to figure out what was wrong with me. diagnosed with some kind of learning disability. Spending 3 hours a night on a half hours worth of homework. abundant mental anguish and anxiety forced me to leave the public school system.

The education system is built to break people down and weed out the failures from the successes. Thats all its about

So yeah. It is pretty much luck

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733180




Total BS. Some of America's greatest FAILURES are idiots that did SO WELL in school that they never left. They got one useless degree after another and ended up spewing liberal bilge as a professor. Now THAT is a total FAIL.

Success anywhere in life is NOT luck.
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And this is so hyped by the media

"Unemployment is now at 10%! EVERYBODY PANIC!"

wait... so that means 90% of people in this country are employed? Thats supposed to be bad?
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Re: Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!
Wow. I love how so many people say, "Well, 20 years ago..." or "in the 80's when I...". Good grief people, open your damn eyes. The world has CHANGED. A LOT. The opportunities that existed then, DO NOT EXIST NOW. No amount of "hard work" is going to change that. America is not the same place it was even 15 years ago. The old mantra doesn't ring true anymore: If you work hard, get a good education, and stay honest the the sky is the limit for what you can achieve. All my life I was told that if I got good grade, worked really hard, and kept my nose clean, I could live the American dream. My parents, and their parents all had that opportunity, I expected it to be there for me as well. I was, and still am prepared to give it my all to achieve it too. The problem is, it's gone. The dream is gone. Dead. It. Does not. EXIST.

IMHO, THAT is what the OWS people are feeling they are not getting, they just have a really piss poor way of articulating it. The opportunity they were expecting, nay, entitled to, all because we live in the the "Greatest Country on Earth™" has been ripped away from them by greedy corporations, unions, and wall street,greedy banks and the fed, and greedy governments.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.
 Quoting: Skeptically Inclined




I was going to write a post . . . but you just said it!

HOW RIGHT YOU ARE!

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Re: Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!
Wow. I love how so many people say, "Well, 20 years ago..." or "in the 80's when I...". Good grief people, open your damn eyes. The world has CHANGED. A LOT. The opportunities that existed then, DO NOT EXIST NOW. No amount of "hard work" is going to change that. America is not the same place it was even 15 years ago. The old mantra doesn't ring true anymore: If you work hard, get a good education, and stay honest the the sky is the limit for what you can achieve. All my life I was told that if I got good grade, worked really hard, and kept my nose clean, I could live the American dream. My parents, and their parents all had that opportunity, I expected it to be there for me as well. I was, and still am prepared to give it my all to achieve it too. The problem is, it's gone. The dream is gone. Dead. It. Does not. EXIST.

IMHO, THAT is what the OWS people are feeling they are not getting, they just have a really piss poor way of articulating it. The opportunity they were expecting, nay, entitled to, all because we live in the the "Greatest Country on Earth™" has been ripped away from them by greedy corporations, unions, and wall street,greedy banks and the fed, and greedy governments.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.
 Quoting: Skeptically Inclined


No, it's not the same - it's EASIER...
 Quoting: TexasGirl


You can't be serious... Please, elaborate. I am dumbfounded by your statement. Easier? I'm going to go out on a limb and say you are just trolling. There is no way that someone could be so ignorant.
 Quoting: Skeptically Inclined


Really? What about the kids who made facebook? Google? When I was a kid, you had to have money to go to college and I didn't have it. Now, you can make millions with a simple idea. That kind of opportunity didn't exist for me.
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^ Yeah no kidding ^

Live beneath your means, whatever your means are.

And don't plan to work for a company for the rest of your life. You'll never be wealthy working for someone else.

"Oh woe is me, I only make $40k a year".

STFU. Don't make stupid debt decisions.
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Walkers, you're way off base on this one.

$40K a year is poverty level.
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Poverty with two cars, flat screen TV and internet.
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Poverty with two cars, flat screen TV and internet.
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I assume you are referring to the poverty level crowd who live on credit?
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Poverty with two cars, flat screen TV and internet.
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I assume you are referring to the poverty level crowd who live on credit?
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It really doesn't matter but I'm guessing most do
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Wow. I love how so many people say, "Well, 20 years ago..." or "in the 80's when I...". Good grief people, open your damn eyes. The world has CHANGED. A LOT. The opportunities that existed then, DO NOT EXIST NOW. No amount of "hard work" is going to change that. America is not the same place it was even 15 years ago. The old mantra doesn't ring true anymore: If you work hard, get a good education, and stay honest the the sky is the limit for what you can achieve. All my life I was told that if I got good grade, worked really hard, and kept my nose clean, I could live the American dream. My parents, and their parents all had that opportunity, I expected it to be there for me as well. I was, and still am prepared to give it my all to achieve it too. The problem is, it's gone. The dream is gone. Dead. It. Does not. EXIST.

IMHO, THAT is what the OWS people are feeling they are not getting, they just have a really piss poor way of articulating it. The opportunity they were expecting, nay, entitled to, all because we live in the the "Greatest Country on Earth™" has been ripped away from them by greedy corporations, unions, and wall street,greedy banks and the fed, and greedy governments.

STOP BLAMING THE VICTIM.
 Quoting: Skeptically Inclined


You are not entitled to an opportunity, see....there is the problem with your thinking.

the only things you are entitled to on this planet is life and then eventually death. That's it....get used to it. It's something the rest of us have already figured out.
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I've let friends of mine stay at my place for months at a time free of charge cause they didn't have jobs or anywhere else to go. Some of them are not mentally capable of holding jobs

One of my best friend has been living on the streets for 2 years since my landlord caugth on and kicked him out and he has less complaints then all of you motherfuckers and would give the shirt off his back for a friend

This attitude of entitlement is complete bullshit. Be thankful you did well in school and got to experience college. The rest of us have grown up being told that we are nothing but failures, losers and low lives. We have no sympathy for your cause
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733180


Why should I "be thankful" I did well in school? It's not luck.

If you've been told you're a loser your whole life, grow up. Parents that do that to their kids are the losers. At some point you have to think for yourself. Why not start right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218991


constantly being pulled out of normal classes and put in special ed classes. Constant testing to figure out what was wrong with me. diagnosed with some kind of learning disability. Spending 3 hours a night on a half hours worth of homework. abundant mental anguish and anxiety forced me to leave the public school system.

The education system is built to break people down and weed out the failures from the successes. Thats all its about

So yeah. It is pretty much luck

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733180




Total BS. Some of America's greatest FAILURES are idiots that did SO WELL in school that they never left. They got one useless degree after another and ended up spewing liberal bilge as a professor. Now THAT is a total FAIL.

Success anywhere in life is NOT luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218991


Yeah it is. When an institution values certain characteristics over others its a matter of whether or not you have those characteristics. I dont have those characteristics

School was easy for the kids who did well in it. Everyone else either gives up or realizes that the system is bullshit and focuses on things they are good at instead
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You didn't answer the question

Theres this guy not too far from where I live who sells food out of a small travel trailer. He's been doing it for a while so Im assuming business is OK

So what are you trying to do? Get a loan and set up a nice fancy restaraunt with ample seating and atmosphere?

Work with what you got

the world of shit. No doubt. Once things get out of hand with the protesters and they call for martial law and place more and more restrictions on individuals
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Wonder what the founders would said when the people begged them to just work with what they had. Can't protest or you will upset the british and then we will really see problems.


Thank god they were not chicken shits
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^ Yeah no kidding ^

Live beneath your means, whatever your means are.

And don't plan to work for a company for the rest of your life. You'll never be wealthy working for someone else.

"Oh woe is me, I only make $40k a year".

STFU. Don't make stupid debt decisions.
 Quoting: WalkersEverywhere


Walkers, you're way off base on this one.

$40K a year is poverty level.
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Bullshit. The department of HUD comes out with the data set each year. Last I checked, for a family of four, the official poverty level was about $22K.
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Poverty with two cars, flat screen TV and internet.
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I assume you are referring to the poverty level crowd who live on credit?
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It really doesn't matter but I'm guessing most do
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What's your point, TexasGirl?

The other poster is belittling people for whining because they only make $40K a year, I pointed out that it's basically poverty level by today's standards . . . and you say they have cars and flat screens . . . ok, they likely do, on credit - which does not change the fact that they make $40K a year.
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Why should I "be thankful" I did well in school? It's not luck.

If you've been told you're a loser your whole life, grow up. Parents that do that to their kids are the losers. At some point you have to think for yourself. Why not start right now?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218991


constantly being pulled out of normal classes and put in special ed classes. Constant testing to figure out what was wrong with me. diagnosed with some kind of learning disability. Spending 3 hours a night on a half hours worth of homework. abundant mental anguish and anxiety forced me to leave the public school system.

The education system is built to break people down and weed out the failures from the successes. Thats all its about

So yeah. It is pretty much luck

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733180




Total BS. Some of America's greatest FAILURES are idiots that did SO WELL in school that they never left. They got one useless degree after another and ended up spewing liberal bilge as a professor. Now THAT is a total FAIL.

Success anywhere in life is NOT luck.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218991


Yeah it is. When an institution values certain characteristics over others its a matter of whether or not you have those characteristics. I dont have those characteristics

School was easy for the kids who did well in it. Everyone else either gives up or realizes that the system is bullshit and focuses on things they are good at instead
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The way I understand it, Steve Jobs and Bill Gates never finished college.
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No, it's not the same - it's EASIER...
 Quoting: TexasGirl


And you know it's easier how? Because you've gone through that process today as opposed to 30 years ago or however old you are?

Seems to me you're incapable of seeing the larger picture... We keep hearing about what you did and your own experiences, well please let us know how that applies to everyone out there? Because it most certainly doesn't... It's 2011, this is not the 70's, the 80's, or even the 90's anymore... You can't use experiences from those decades and try to make bold conclusions about what will work today for everyne.... We're are living in a different time.... Context is everything, and apparently you don't feel like acknowledging how times have changed....

Where have all the manufacturing jobs gone? Overseas... All the jobs you could qualify for with a simple high school diploma decades ago, are dwindling quickly... How many young adults can afford to go to college these days? How many come out of school with $50-$100K of debt and wind up living with their parents until their 30's? Look at the cost of basic necessities, and how the cost of living has been inflated.... Look at the amount of debt people live with these days.... I listened to an individual on a radio interview who said back in the 70's, most families could purchase a home and pay it off within 5-7 years... How long does it take your average family to pay off their mortgage these days? 20-30 years? And then when they finally do, they find out their home is worth less than they paid for it....
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Poverty with two cars, flat screen TV and internet.
 Quoting: TexasGirl



I assume you are referring to the poverty level crowd who live on credit?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3458912


It really doesn't matter but I'm guessing most do
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What's your point, TexasGirl?

The other poster is belittling people for whining because they only make $40K a year, I pointed out that it's basically poverty level by today's standards . . . and you say they have cars and flat screens . . . ok, they likely do, on credit - which does not change the fact that they make $40K a year.
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For you, poverty means flat screens and two cars? I lived with no car in my life and black and white TV when others had color. Maybe you need a reality adjustment?
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No, it's not the same - it's EASIER...
 Quoting: TexasGirl


And you know it's easier how?

Seems to me you're incapable of seeing the larger picture... We keep hearing about what you did and your own experiences, well please let us know how that applies to everyone out there? Because it most certainly doesn't... It's 2011, this is not the 70's, the 80's, or even the 90's anymore... You can't use experiences from those decades and try to make bold conclusions about what will work today.... We're are living in a different time.... Context is everything....
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No, context isn't everything.

ATTITUDE is everything. If you have a "glass mostly empty" attitude, you'll manage to fuck yourself even in good times.
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Re: Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!
You didn't answer the question

Theres this guy not too far from where I live who sells food out of a small travel trailer. He's been doing it for a while so Im assuming business is OK

So what are you trying to do? Get a loan and set up a nice fancy restaraunt with ample seating and atmosphere?

Work with what you got

the world of shit. No doubt. Once things get out of hand with the protesters and they call for martial law and place more and more restrictions on individuals
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Wonder what the founders would said when the people begged them to just work with what they had. Can't protest or you will upset the british and then we will really see problems.


Thank god they were not chicken shits
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bet the savages feel the same way

You really dont see the forces at work here eh? You dont realize that this whole thing is a puppet show and these protesters are pawns in someone elses game. You haven't seen how mainstream media has been hyping this thing up for the last year now?
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No, it's not the same - it's EASIER...
 Quoting: TexasGirl


And you know it's easier how?

Seems to me you're incapable of seeing the larger picture... We keep hearing about what you did and your own experiences, well please let us know how that applies to everyone out there? Because it most certainly doesn't... It's 2011, this is not the 70's, the 80's, or even the 90's anymore... You can't use experiences from those decades and try to make bold conclusions about what will work today.... We're are living in a different time.... Context is everything....
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Yes, you have an easier time than me, just like I had it easier than my parents.
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No, it's not the same - it's EASIER...
 Quoting: TexasGirl


And you know it's easier how?

Seems to me you're incapable of seeing the larger picture... We keep hearing about what you did and your own experiences, well please let us know how that applies to everyone out there? Because it most certainly doesn't... It's 2011, this is not the 70's, the 80's, or even the 90's anymore... You can't use experiences from those decades and try to make bold conclusions about what will work today.... We're are living in a different time.... Context is everything....
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Really? Do you have any idea how many times through history this has happened?

The trouble with it happening this time is that no-one has any useful skills.

Can you grow and store your own food?
Can you make soap and sew your own clothes?
Do you know how to build a barn or other structure?

The reason this generation has lost it, is because they think they know everything and can actually do NOTHING.

No skills,
except how play with computers....one good emp and millions of people will be lost....
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Re: Why don't you do the math before you tell these kids to not borrow money-- or get a job!
YA KNOW WHAT?
KARMA WILL SET THIS ALL STRAIGHT.
THE DAY THE TABLES TURN YOU'LL WHIMPERING LIKE A LITTLE BITCH :)
UNFORTUNATE, BUT WHEN YOU ARE UNWILLING TO HELP SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND INSTEAD BEAT YOUR FELLOW MAN INTO THE GROUND, THERE IS ONLY THING THAT CAN HAPPEN: YOU WILL GET YOURS!
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I've already gotten mine, bitch. I clawed my own way out off the street.

I know what it takes to succeed. All you're doing is whining. You're not helping anyone or anything.

You're little more than a worthless little poverty pimp.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3218991


Why make stuff up?? you never been on the street !! you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth... I bet you love tyranny, if it was up to you, you would call for martial law, torture protesters once arrested so they can't rejoin the protest.





GLP