Ouline for final phase of Obama Admin Coup!! By "John Galt"

Here's the link:

[link to johngaltfla.com]

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Last Edited by MARTIAL LAW on 10/18/2011 09:03 AM

But they cannot stop business owners from simply closing their doors and taking what little capital they have elsewhere... out of the country.

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... all this is planned with the world-view of politicians and government types ... "control freaks" if you will ...
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... PEOPLE will continue to exist ... with/without "governments" ...
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... messy time the death of "control freak" systems BUT people will continue to exist ...
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the text is ok - johns not gonna bitch re copyright. johns a friend to glp.

and under those conditions i would consider shutting down my business rather than have gov policy dictate how i operate. IF business conditions continues/were to go south i will lay off employees and or cut payroll in order to remain profitable. If i can not do that what choice would i have?

Last Edited by Frankenstein on 10/18/2011 10:12 AM

It isn't going to happen. That little brown waddie in the White House has jack for power or influence.

He's done!

The point being that -- if what JGalt fears comes to pass -- you could not lay off anyone. Period.

TPTB would force you to close your doors, and probably have some mechanism in place to sieze your assets it you tried to.

So you would have to abscond with your own money.

Sell the recievables and the equipment, with the buyers to take physical possession at some time in the future when you are safely out of the country, leaving your employees shaking their heads at 'what happened?'.

oh yes they can. illegal to transfer $$ out of country.

checkmate.

Might be illegal, but I promise you myself and may others wouldn't give a fucking shit and we would be gone.

And there are already many that ALREADY have money outside the country.

This would be a lock down trap for the poor and uneducated... as always.

gone, or in jail.

Since the moderator says it's ok, here is the first half of the John Galt article that I posted above. Again, this tied everything together in SUCH a fresh, understandable way. Wonderfully written and unfortunately, I feel he is right on target. There are some videos at the original link that did not cut and paste here; all worth watching in the context of this article.

This is a bit tough to read quickly. It is well worth the time to read this thoughtfully and consider the author's argument for his conclusion.

So where are the good guys? Where are the public officials who are supposed to rise up against what's amounting to a coup? Aren't there ANY knights on white horses left in our government??

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By John Galt
October 14, 2011 – 05:00 ET

The markets are in turmoil, the radicals are camped in various cities with faux protests against whatever, and the world is starting to despise America again because of our weak, vacillating leadership.

1979-1980 under President Carter comes to mind but in this case, but the danger is far more serious than a Soviet nuke accidentally being fired on a major U.S. city, in fact the detonation will occur due to our own “citizens” who elect to implore the government to take radical action to support and save their political agenda of change, rather than offer ideas which would benefit our society as a whole.

Thus the most dangerous period of time in American history since the Civil War is upon us again and sadly, the leadership in our nation is lacking.

Or is it?

Excuse me while I adjust my tinfoil hat, but as one witnesses the garbage dump being created in various city parks around the nation via the “Occupy” movement, the idea that the extreme left acting coincidentally with a period of economic turmoil in world markets begs the question:

Can the President act unilaterally to stem a disruption to United States domestic financial activity?

According to Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. the answer is yes:


(Source: The Daily Caller, Jackson, Jr: Obama should ‘declare a national emergency,’ add jobs with ‘extra-constitutional’ action, October 12, 2011)

Beyond the extraordinary commentary by the Congressman and the admission that the United States is still in a recession, the question as posed is yes, the President does have such authority as granted in U.S. Code Title 50, Chapter 34, Section 1701a:

(a) Any authority granted to the President by section 1702 of this title may be exercised to deal with any unusual and extraordinary threat, which has its source in whole or substantial part outside the United States, to the national security, foreign policy, or economy of the United States, if the President declares a national emergency with respect to such threat.

(Source: Cornell Law School, Legal Information Institute, U.S. Code)

It is quite apparent that since the evolution of the National Emergencies Act (Title 50, U.S.C.) the powers exercised since Lincoln are not only permissible as validated by the lack of intervention and action by the U.S. courts, but indeed, President Obama does indeed have the power to suspend Federal law, modify or dismiss contract law, and intervene in economic activity due to a declared national emergency.

How did this power evolve and the interpretation that the Executive Branch has such authority? Let’s review a little history from way, way , way back which culminates with the George W. Bush administration via the National Emergencies Act.

I. Evolution of Executive Authority to Intervene in Economic Activity

The original source of Presidential power can be traced back to the Civil War and the broad, somewhat unconstitutional actions of President Abraham Lincoln operating under the idea of extraordinary circumstances due to the conflict to allow the management and intervention into economic activity during a period of war. This view was expanded by the first of the Progressive Presidents, Theodore Roosevelt who believed the Executive Branch had a duty to use all powers available  to the office to engage in any actions which were necessary for the nation. Indeed, it was Roosevelt’s belief that, for the President, “it was not only his right but his duty to do anything that the needs of the Nation demanded unless such action was forbidden by the Constitution or by the laws.” (Source: Theodore Roosevelt, An Autobiography ,New York: Macmillan, 1913, pp. 388-389 via CRS 98-505 by Harold C. Relyea, August 30, 2007)

However, as broad as this power was, the true expansion of this discretion occurred in 1917 under guess who:

President Woodrow Wilson

For those of my readers who are fans of Glenn Beck, this should not come as a surprise as during the First World War, Wilson engaged in actions which suspended the entire Bill of Rights for some citizens at almost every level and economically via the creation of the Trading with the Enemy Act of 1917 (Click here to read entire law from Treasury.gov). Needless to say, every President since the Progressive era has exercised wide discretion by engaging in variations of this law via Executive Order or other decree since that era.

Fast forward to the post September 11, 2011 time period where emergency decrees and actions were being issued almost daily as the National Emergencies Act (Title 50, U.S.C., section 34). President Bush stretched those powers on September 8, 2005 where under a new interpretation of those authorities delegated under the act, he issued Proclamation 7924 which was entered into the U.S. Federal Register as follows:

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Please notice the key portion of this document:
And, as to such contracts to be performed in such jurisdictions, I do hereby suspend, until otherwise provided, the provisions of any Executive Order, proclamation, rule, regulation, or other directive providing for the payment of wages, which provisions are dependent upon determinations by the Secretary of Labor under section 3142 of title 40, United States Code;

This does not sound like a Constitutional action and was questioned in fact by a Congressional Research Service report, National Emergency Powers, prepared by Harold C. Relyea on August 30, 2007:

An anomaly in the activation of emergency powers appears to have occurred on September 8, 2005, when President George W. Bush issued a proclamation suspending certain wage requirements of the Davis-Bacon Act in the course of the federal response to the Gulf coast disaster resulting from Hurricane Katrina. Instead of following the historical pattern of declaring a national emergency to activate the suspension authority, the President set out the following rationale in the proclamation: “I find that the conditions caused by Hurricane Katrina constitute a‘national emergency’ within the meaning of section 3147 of title 40, United States  Code.” A more likely course of action seemingly would have been for the President to declare a national emergency pursuant to the National Emergencies Act and to specify that he was, accordingly, activating the suspension authority. Although the propriety of the President’s action in this case might have been ultimately determined in the courts, the proclamation was revoked on November 3, 2005, by a proclamation in which the President cited the National Emergencies Act as authority, in part, for his action.

(CRS 98-505, pp. 18-19, available at this link)

Thus a non-foreign threat to U.S. economic activity was used to invoke those powers delegated under the National Emergencies Act and the precedent was established that a President does indeed have the power to engage in the suspension of basic Constitutional rights proscribed via the Bill of Rights to suspend established Federal and private contract law. Thus the video from the Congressman above via the Daily Caller should become even more disturbing to the reader.

II. The Old New National Emergency

The extension of Title 50, the National Emergencies Act, by President Obama should not have come as any surprise to any logical thinking individual. No President in modern history has ever surrendered the enhanced powers envisioned under the first Progressive Presidents and in fact have slowly evolved an expansion of those powers as outlined above. Unfortunately for the American people, the idea that a “national emergency” which would allow such broad action to occur has escaped their daily lives and selection of men of character to serve as their representatives.

The emergency as outlined above in the video is ongoing to millions of citizens and despite the hypocritical Occupy Wall Street faux protesters, the risks to our financial system and viability of our economy is still in doubt. The financial system is being buffeted by a resumption in the foreclosure tidal wave which promises to be far more severe than the 2007-2009 time period due to the stagnant economy and declining wages of the majority of citizens. This promises to destroy more communities forcing an acceleration in municipal bankruptcies (See Municide February 21, 2008) and a probable growth in the number of corporate bankruptcies (Reuters via The Huffington Post October 11, 2011: Corporate Bankruptcies Could Return With New Recession: Experts). Such a vicious cycle will certainly increase unemployment far beyond the real number of 22% as illustrated by John Williams of www.shadowstats.com:

As this old crisis returns for another period of massive deleveraging which will induce a wave of deflation that destroys the value of assets for most average Americans, the crisis will expand beyond the unemployed and into the Baby Boomer and retirement age groups creating a new societal and economic crisis far worse than the 2007-2009 recession. However, this disaster does provide an opportunity as Rahm Emanuel reminded us in 2008:

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....and here, go back to the first post and continue reading for the rest of the article.

This will never happen, you give this guy way to much credit. He wouldn't even be able to get dressed in the morning without his precious stolen telepromter.

Tptb need someone who can influence to pull that off, not someone who all but a few crazy lefties still listen to.

He is Carter all over again, can you imagine Carter pulling anything like this off?

Meanwhile the gub-mint offers loans,abatements,and subsidies to foriegners wanting to open up shop/relocate here.........BTW, in Texas, at least , there is an "Envios dinero" station on every other corner,for sending money to Mexico, no questions axted. Your small businesses will only be able to attract low wage guest workers , who send their earnings back home. Displaced American workers no longer have enough disposable income to spend at your small business. Been nice knowin' ya.

Always a story about how some president is going to take over and become our supreme ruler.

Wake up the fed reserve already has taken over that office plus the rest of the country.

One area I see a problem with is that the fed does not need to renew in 2013. It used to be they had to renew every so many years, but not now. The only way to end the Fed is by an act of congress, no renewal required. sk

Agree… I would be gone like a silent fart in the wind

John has done a good job laying out pieces of the plan, from an Amerocentric position.

There is more....

Lets shift views a bit, take a global position position; a position of a responsible global citizen.

The average human income is less than a dollar a day.

There is a country with about 3% of the worlds population, that is consuming 35 to 80% of the worlds resources and doing so with the advantage of ability to print fiat currency and armed violence or threat of armed violence.

This one country is responsible for the deaths of millions annually.

As a responsible global citizen might you want to see the economic and military destruction of this country? Despite you might desire many powerful organizations on this world do desire this, and intently.

Wether you like it or not the president of the USA is working for such interests...

The economic and military destruction of America..

The economic and military destruction of America..

Its the only way forward to a uniform global government with equality and fairness for all humans.

The average income of a global citizen is a dollar...

How are you gonna like your average position? But Americans do have skills, and are perhaps the most resourceful people in the world, so we will do better than average, eventually..

But of course myself, and many others like our position, like our current American advantages, like our Constitution.

The dichotomy between the global/American positions ensures conflict, but remember the goal of economic and military destruction of America.

Its gonna be worse than most of you imagine...

Just like a bunch of keyboard cowboys to cut and run when the tough gets going. I shouldn't have expected any less, now I know.

If this does happen and all you cowards are gone and not here for the fight, when the dust settles you will not be welcomed back to your homeland. Know that you will be considered enemies.

Fucking disgrace.

America is going to be fine.

We're the greatest assemblage of violent useful idiots ever created, with a military that is vastly superior to anything else on our planet.

We're perfect just the way we are, no powermongering psycho is going to want to ruin that, and we can rest assured the most powermongering of the most psychotic psychos runs America, so we should be ok, oddly enough.

Last Edited by Least Servant on 10/18/2011 01:00 PM

You say Obama isn't capable enough to pull this off? That's the whole issue. He's just a front guy. There is an extensive team behind him.

The health care bill was written long before he took office, waiting for the next Dem to take office.

He can't give s speech without a teleprompter. He doesn't know the material well enough to do that.

He didn't write his "Dreams from my Father" book. Bill Ayers did, and said as much publicly. Like Donald Trump said, Obama would have done well to quit with the first book, as when he wrote the second, it became quite obvious that he didn't write the first one.

He does not meet with cabinet members. He has his own team, the "Czars", with whom he consults. And Valerie Ja rret. Our elected officials, both Dem and Repub, are not running the show.

My husband is a business exec, and DO NOT TELL ME OBAMA'S RUNNING THE COUNTRY WHILE HE FLITS AROUND ON AF1 MAKING SPEECHES. You can NOT get any work done while you travel around constantly. That only happens in the movies. REAL work gets done in the office--not on the phone in the back of a car, or in between your five speeches. And traveling WEARS on you--it's tiring, and damages your ability to concentrate. Sleep is hard on the road. I'm sure he takes his own food, but food is hard on the road if you are eating out. Different water. Different climate. All of it makes it very hard to get real work done.

So IMO, he isn't doing the work. Someone else is.

Does anyone on here really think one person is able to "run a country?" Really? All by himself? That fantasy has been built by the media.

"HE" does not need to pull it off. He has enough Communists / Marxists Socialists in his administration to advise how to do it. Remember he has surrouded himself with these people for a raeson

I'm surprised no one has asked yet: "who is John Galt?"

We may not be able to get out soon.


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Laughable if anyone still believes that.