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im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.

 
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im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
ive never had any accountable proof of the existance, and im seeking answers. any answer is welcome, aside from petty trolls.deadhorse
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Not too many studies out there on this fact; because people are rarely weighed before and after dead. But if you would weigh a person right before death and right after they are a little lighter. Check out ICU nurses and ask them right before they tie the rabbit ears on the diseased.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
Take time and meditate for 30 minutes to an hour...do it one night every day for 7 days...if you don't experience anything I'll give you $5.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
you've not had your best nor worst day


when you feel you have


maybe


maybe
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
ive never had any accountable proof of the existance, and im seeking answers. any answer is welcome, aside from petty trolls.deadhorse
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Pray to the Lord, with a sincere and humble heart, ask His forgiveness for your sins and ask Him to reveal Himself to you.
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Behold! Proof!


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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
prove to me you DON'T have a soul
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prove to me you DON'T have a soul
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Prove to me you DON'T have 4 million even blood cells.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
Soul/person is spiritual. To scientifically prove anything you must perform an experiment. In material science we can each have access to and gather a list of material items and both perform an experiment and prove it to ourselves, to each other and to other people. When performing spiritual scientific experiments one item on the list will always be your soul and consciousness which is something only you can have access to. So as nobody can have access to your soul and consciousness nobody can prove anything spiritual to you or for you. Spiritual science is the science of self realisation meaning it can only be done for yourself by yourself, you can be told how to perform the experiment although YOU must perform it and YOU alone witness the results. After that you can compare second hand testimony of results with others but never see their results first hand.

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The desire for you to want to hear opposing viewpoints in an attempt to further stabilize your chosen viewpoint is proof of your soul. Progression.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
If you check out the Spiritual Preparedness thread in my signature I have shared my own experiences of existence of self as a spiritual being (soul) residing in a physical body of matter. Those are my experiences however, for 'proof' you must have your own. Proof cannot come in physical terms because the soul is not physical.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
interesting perception of the nurse and weighing theory. i may go into that field so i may experiance that. i meditate ever day, but ive hardly experianced anything to have proof of a soul. i agree, never experainced my best/worst day. im waiting for either, and im not patient :( praying doesnt really go anywhere for me, it feels like a false sense of hope. :( cant watch the vid, on my cellphone. and no! prove there is a soul.. prove i am a soul and have a body.. just do it! bump
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
Maybe you don't have one.

An empty vessel.

Maybe a soul will seek you out one day.

But, you should be open to it not being something that is judeo-christian-islamic related.

Can't drive a car without a driver.

Driver can't drive without a car.

I am also feeling inquisitive. Prove to me that I am alive and not just dreaming...
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You are part of "the" soul.

You should smoke DMT. Or drink ayahuasca. You will be able to see what you are and what you are part of.

You will see with your own eyes, the Spirit world.

I questioned what the spirit world was my whole life until I found DMT, and now I know.
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What part of you is it that can watch your thoughts.

What part of it is that you experience when you astral project.
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ive never had any accountable proof of the existance, and im seeking answers. any answer is welcome, aside from petty trolls.deadhorse
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maybe you don't have one...maybe some people are born soulless or lose it along the way..
what makes you even ponder the question if you're an atheist?
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3 or 4 other posters, thank you and everyone as well. cont.- i cant find a way to selfrealisation. i try everyday :( lol. give me methods to spritiualy prepare myself and progress to help me set up a way so i can prove it to myself. main goal here :)
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Read the book "Journey of Souls" You can get it on amazon or at any book store. It may help. It is not religious in any way.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
I can't prove it to you. I do have a question, though. How do you explain experiences such as I had when I was a small child?

I died. I was reported as fully brain dead. No brain activity at all. I followed my guardians down a hallway and past a set of double doors. Then down another hallway and around the corner. There, I watched them argue with the doctor and some nurses.

I was able to relay the conversation accurately after I returned to my body.

What does this experience mean to you? How was I able to do that?

For me personally, it proves to me that I have something that lives beyond this body.

Do you simply discount these experiences (as I'm not the only one to experience this by any stretch of imagination)?
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
ive never had any accountable proof of the existance, and im seeking answers. any answer is welcome, aside from petty trolls.deadhorse
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You don't have a soul, your life is meaningless, and when you die you will cease to exist.

Basically you have nothing to look forward to.

Kill yourself now and quit wasting the precious time you have left.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
Actually the were two guys back i think in the 30' or 40's not sure
well they did multiple experiments, by weighing very precisley
a person on there death bed
they actually wrigged up and extremely precise scale that the bed laid on, they took into account everything that may leave the body, urine,waste, perspiration , hair, breath etc..
and every time somebody died at that exact moment the body would lose several ounces of weight, even taking account of all those things mentioned earlier, they concluded that there was an unknown meterial that leaves the body right at the time of death. wish i could find the article, facinating

i believe the soul is a type of invisble to our eye plasma energy the does indeed have some weight to it.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
interesting perception of the nurse and weighing theory. i may go into that field so i may experiance that. i meditate ever day, but ive hardly experianced anything to have proof of a soul. i agree, never experainced my best/worst day. im waiting for either, and im not patient :( praying doesnt really go anywhere for me, it feels like a false sense of hope. :( cant watch the vid, on my cellphone. and no! prove there is a soul.. prove i am a soul and have a body.. just do it! bump
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Brother,

If you want to know it will take some work on your part. Get a KJV Bible and read it cover to cover. If you can pray to GOD ask for understanding and for Him to reveal himself to you, end your prayer in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. He will make known Himself unto you, I promise. For I have experienced the Word of God and Jesus first hand.
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Even better idea for you Opie. Most people who have made it in the music industry have sold their soul to the Devil. Signed in blood. So, if you think your soul has no value; why would the evil one want you to sell it to him?
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You are a soul.

Here is a link to an article that explains the difference between the soul and the spirit.

[link to www.watchtower.org]
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
im very open to ideaolgy and stuff. indi intro means indulgent introvert so all i think about in my path to find guide is myself as a person in mind body spirit kind of way. i want to believe in the ideas but i am also a realist and it gets things mixed up. confuses me. i just have never really been enveloped with a very spiritual experiance and it drags me down.but i do try and think of the concept and i get somewhere.. but its just cliffhangers. very disconcerting.
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ive never had any accountable proof of the existance, and im seeking answers. any answer is welcome, aside from petty trolls.deadhorse
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why does being an atheist mean you don't believe in a soul?
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
I think your soul is your mind, will and emotions. Every sentient being has a soul.

It's your spirit that holds the capability of being eternal, not your soul.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
I think,

If there was no such thing as spirits,God,angels,demons,saints,sinners,heaven,hell,eternity​,religion,faith,purity,truth,kindness,forgiveness,logic,ratio​nalization,love,etc,etc.

If we evolved from dog poop or came from a big explosion,monkeys,africa,rapid evolving bacteria, aliens , cattle boogers, sugar, salt, cheese,etc,etc...


I dont believe there would be a debate, I think if we evolved, Our entire species wouldn't even have questioned it eons ago. I think the human race would just exist and not question it.

Spirituality is possibly true just for the simple fact that the thought of it exists.

The lack of answers and spiritual Phenomenon is what has caused people to question the spiritual realm as being real.

A large amount of people that are religious are over zealous and sometimes down right crazy when trying to teach people that jesus is real and you must repent to avoid eternal damnation.

It's unconventional theory but hey, gives ya something to think about right?
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
Soul is just the fancy word for your conciousness, if you look up what the human body is really made out of, will see that it is many different types of micro organisms, and bacteria that all work together.
That is what your genetic code is, the makeup of these tiny creatures.
If you didnt have a soul you couldnt post this message.
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Ok, i will delve on, the micro organisms control half the brain, your soul controls the other half, the conscious half.
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Re: im feeling inquisitive. im an atheist, prove to me i have a soul.
and on..

God's temple is your body, that is in the bible, and that is true, god is in all of us, that is also true, the god particle is our soul, when we die the flesh, the the microbs, and all the rest seperate, including our memories, ready to be used again.





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