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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4269289  Australia10/30/2011 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4269289 You just proved my point, you say their rent etc and we cant compare? why not?..i mean if they are buying up our houses etc surely they have money to do so no?..one day the penny is going to drop for alot of you..sadly it will be too late. It's rich Chinese doing that, not the average guy in the street who lives in similar to our high rise government housing. So it's the guy who owns the factory that is buying here, not the person who sits at the sewing machine making the clothes that we all wear. fuck man, sorry to sound rude..but really..i made my living from travelling to these places and buying shit and selling it here...these "workers" are looked after in there own right and their families..our perception of a decent wage is a far cry from them, yet they are happy ppl with opinions about our culture here. They are happy ppl for the most part....yet us with high wages etc wine constantly about pay increases ect..tell me how many of you guys actually follow what our "Diggers" and what they are getting for their worth??..hint it is not indexed..we have far more older ppl living below what we concider poverty line..yet we ignore what made this place what we call australia.. If i learnt anything from my travels to the far east it is this...LOOK AFTER YOUR ELDERS FIRST. I've travelled extensively myself so I do know how it is elsewhere in the world. The Chinese did seem happy enough when I visited but their cost of living was far less than ours is. I also know that the cost of living in some Australian cities now is higher than pretty much anywhere else in the world now (according to several indexes which have been released this year). We the people who live here have no way of controlling that. I totally agree we should look after our elderly & those who are unable to work but it's never going to happen as our Government is so out of touch. I have retired parents & my dad is a veteran so I know what it's like for retirees. I am a single mother & for 6 months recently the govt provided me with $450 a week to live on. Had I not just been given a golden parachute I would have been totally screwed as it's impossible to live on that these days & pensioners are worse off than that. Wish you well sis, we are all in this boat together...and if i'am a chinese or an australian worker, i thank my elders for laying a platform for me and my family to follow. The sad thing nowdays is greed knows no boundaries, so whilst we all bicker about small wage rises, something else evil passes unseen. +karma 4 u when i login :) |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3943684 Australia10/30/2011 03:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded Qantas execs claim they were forced to ground fleet due to safety reasons. [link to news.ninemsn.com.au] This smells like more bullshit. This thread should be pinned. |
citizenperth  User ID: 3745182 Australia10/30/2011 03:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded Qantas execs claim they were forced to ground fleet due to safety reasons. Quoting: Aunty Flo [link to news.ninemsn.com.au] This smells like more bullshit. This thread should be pinned. agreed something REALLY wrong here...... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4290540 Australia10/30/2011 03:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded Qantas execs claim they were forced to ground fleet due to safety reasons. Quoting: Aunty Flo [link to news.ninemsn.com.au] This smells like more bullshit. This thread should be pinned. PIN PIN PIN PIN PIN PIN |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1559845 Australia10/30/2011 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded Qantas execs claim they were forced to ground fleet due to safety reasons. Quoting: Aunty Flo [link to news.ninemsn.com.au] This smells like more bullshit. This thread should be pinned. Well not unless you are accusing the Civil Aviation Safety Council of being corrupt.. Mr Strambi said Qantas had received a letter from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority on October 14, outlining their concern over the impact that long-running industrial action against the airline was having on fleet safety From your link. If Qantas kept flying and plane went down I'm sure we'd all be wailing about how they put money before passenger safety. Can't have it both ways......  |
| Biochemky User ID: 919411  United States10/30/2011 04:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded I seriously think the CEO should be getting seen by a psych as this will probably kill the airline. How on earth you can argue that the workers can't have payrises while you are taking a hefty one yourself is beyond belief. He didn't hit any of the targets that were set for the year yet he still got a huge payrise. It totally sucks. Quoting: Satya I'd say the CEO and his shareholder pals have again underestimated the power of "the flying public" to side with the workers on this one until hell freezes over. The Qantas CEO and his corporate brethren need to put in a call and talk to the CEO of Netflix if they really want to know how much pain they're in for. Netflix lost 3/4 of its sharevalue over a period of about 4 months! In July one share of Netflix was $300 and today it is $79.60! [link to data.cnbc.com] What I am saying is, no one in this equation is thinking about the lasting public relations nightmare that this scenario represents. The flying public is like an elephant, they never forget. They will switch airlines and never look back. The passengers who are stranded because of this "little problem" will be the first to never book with Qantas again. Last Edited by Biochemky on 10/30/2011 04:26 AM |
| citizenperth User ID: 3745182 Australia10/30/2011 04:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded I seriously think the CEO should be getting seen by a psych as this will probably kill the airline. How on earth you can argue that the workers can't have payrises while you are taking a hefty one yourself is beyond belief. He didn't hit any of the targets that were set for the year yet he still got a huge payrise. It totally sucks. Quoting: Satya I'd say the CEO and his shareholder pals have again underestimated the power of "the flying public" to side with the workers on this one until hell freezes over. The Qantas CEO and his corporate brethren need to put in a call and talk to the CEO of Netflix if they really want to know how much pain they're in for. Netflix lost 3/4 of its sharevalue over a period of about 4-6 WEEKS! What I am saying is, no one in this equation is thinking about the lasting public relations nightmare that this scenario represents. The flying public is like an elephant, they never forget. They will switch airlines and never look back. The passengers who are stranded because of this "little problem" will be the first to never book with Qantas again. bingo... fek and i got shares and a fecking expensve club membership for the next 3 years...... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Biochemky User ID: 919411 United States10/30/2011 04:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded I seriously think the CEO should be getting seen by a psych as this will probably kill the airline. How on earth you can argue that the workers can't have payrises while you are taking a hefty one yourself is beyond belief. He didn't hit any of the targets that were set for the year yet he still got a huge payrise. It totally sucks. Quoting: Satya I'd say the CEO and his shareholder pals have again underestimated the power of "the flying public" to side with the workers on this one until hell freezes over. The Qantas CEO and his corporate brethren need to put in a call and talk to the CEO of Netflix if they really want to know how much pain they're in for. Netflix lost 3/4 of its sharevalue over a period of about 4-6 WEEKS! What I am saying is, no one in this equation is thinking about the lasting public relations nightmare that this scenario represents. The flying public is like an elephant, they never forget. They will switch airlines and never look back. The passengers who are stranded because of this "little problem" will be the first to never book with Qantas again. bingo... fek and i got shares and a fecking expensve club membership for the next 3 years...... Your one year trend with Qantas looks mighty bad already, even before this labor fiasco came on the scene. [link to data.cnbc.com] [link to data.cnbc.com] I would sell those Quantas shares while the "gettin's good". |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4269289 Australia10/30/2011 04:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded I seriously think the CEO should be getting seen by a psych as this will probably kill the airline. How on earth you can argue that the workers can't have payrises while you are taking a hefty one yourself is beyond belief. He didn't hit any of the targets that were set for the year yet he still got a huge payrise. It totally sucks. Quoting: Satya I'd say the CEO and his shareholder pals have again underestimated the power of "the flying public" to side with the workers on this one until hell freezes over. The Qantas CEO and his corporate brethren need to put in a call and talk to the CEO of Netflix if they really want to know how much pain they're in for. Netflix lost 3/4 of its sharevalue over a period of about 4-6 WEEKS! What I am saying is, no one in this equation is thinking about the lasting public relations nightmare that this scenario represents. The flying public is like an elephant, they never forget. They will switch airlines and never look back. The passengers who are stranded because of this "little problem" will be the first to never book with Qantas again. bingo... fek and i got shares and a fecking expensve club membership for the next 3 years...... Yea fuckin netflix prix..give us brothers downunder a fair frikkin deal..and stop making it against some fuckedup co's copyright infrindgement...i mean we hire and buy the shit weeks after you do anyway wtF! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3943684 Australia10/30/2011 04:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded Qantas execs claim they were forced to ground fleet due to safety reasons. Quoting: Aunty Flo [link to news.ninemsn.com.au] This smells like more bullshit. This thread should be pinned. Well not unless you are accusing the Civil Aviation Safety Council of being corrupt.. Mr Strambi said Qantas had received a letter from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority on October 14, outlining their concern over the impact that long-running industrial action against the airline was having on fleet safety From your link. If Qantas kept flying and plane went down I'm sure we'd all be wailing about how they put money before passenger safety. Can't have it both ways...... No, I am saying there is another reason to ground the fleet. It was a brilliant opportunity to break the union, and now they can ping it on a 'concern' that the dispute is affecting safety. This wouldn't even concern them if it didn't provide a great opportunity for them. Pull the other one, it plays jingle bells. Pas |
| citizenperth User ID: 3745182 Australia10/30/2011 04:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded Qantas execs claim they were forced to ground fleet due to safety reasons. Quoting: Aunty Flo [link to news.ninemsn.com.au] This smells like more bullshit. This thread should be pinned. Well not unless you are accusing the Civil Aviation Safety Council of being corrupt.. Mr Strambi said Qantas had received a letter from the Civil Aviation Safety Authority on October 14, outlining their concern over the impact that long-running industrial action against the airline was having on fleet safety From your link. If Qantas kept flying and plane went down I'm sure we'd all be wailing about how they put money before passenger safety. Can't have it both ways...... No, I am saying there is another reason to ground the fleet. It was a brilliant opportunity to break the union, and now they can ping it on a 'concern' that the dispute is affecting safety. This wouldn't even concern them if it didn't provide a great opportunity for them. Pull the other one, it plays jingle bells. Pas another comment was that the lock down came into place with so many heads of state departing the airline as a security risk.... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 3943684 Australia10/30/2011 05:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded not sure whether it's been mentioned before but one wonders whether quatas trying to engineer a Patricks Stevedores govt. response??? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1880562 Sure they are. There will be an outcry from stranded passengers and then Qantas will get one plane in the air to save the passengers, staffed with scabs scavenged from overseas. They will then be the heroes, the knights in shining armour. Public swoon, and everyone will be cursing the unions. Mammoth public support behind government changing laws to break strikes and break employee agreements, and break unions, not knowing other industries will pick up changes to screw over it's workforce. This is about eroding employee rights. The Australian worker will lose, not just the Qantas worker. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 4294515 Australia10/30/2011 06:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded I seriously think the CEO should be getting seen by a psych as this will probably kill the airline. How on earth you can argue that the workers can't have payrises while you are taking a hefty one yourself is beyond belief. He didn't hit any of the targets that were set for the year yet he still got a huge payrise. It totally sucks. Quoting: Satya Honestly , from what has been happening over the last two years with that airline that went from being one of the best to one of the worst ...I started to think they wanted to kill off the airline. Its been very obvious . But for what reason ??? what little conspiracy is playing itself out here and who are the players ? There's bigger bucks in spraying the skies. One of Qantas's jets has already been busted do so-the thread was on this site,with photos..... The CEO is a just a talking head - the harder he tows the line,the greater the reward. The founders of this once great airline would be rolling in their graves! Is that for real ! Are the commercial airliners actually spraying the skies. I cant even see planes attached to Chemtrails anymore . And they actually get paid more spraying. So whos doing the paying for the spraying ? Its not life friendly activity . What air does this Joyce paln to breath It was pretty bad today on the Gold Coast and now we have an electromagnetic storm heading over |
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| Quanta User ID: 4248360 Australia10/30/2011 06:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded I seriously think the CEO should be getting seen by a psych as this will probably kill the airline. How on earth you can argue that the workers can't have payrises while you are taking a hefty one yourself is beyond belief. He didn't hit any of the targets that were set for the year yet he still got a huge payrise. It totally sucks. Quoting: Satya Honestly , from what has been happening over the last two years with that airline that went from being one of the best to one of the worst ...I started to think they wanted to kill off the airline. Its been very obvious . But for what reason ??? what little conspiracy is playing itself out here and who are the players ? There's bigger bucks in spraying the skies. One of Qantas's jets has already been busted do so-the thread was on this site,with photos..... The CEO is a just a talking head - the harder he tows the line,the greater the reward. The founders of this once great airline would be rolling in their graves! Is that for real ! Are the commercial airliners actually spraying the skies. I cant even see planes attached to Chemtrails anymore . And they actually get paid more spraying. So whos doing the paying for the spraying ? Its not life friendly activity . What air does this Joyce paln to breath It was pretty bad today on the Gold Coast and now we have an electromagnetic storm heading over From Main Beach it looks like a thunder storm ;} |
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| citizenperth User ID: 3745182 Australia10/30/2011 06:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded Been in that meeting for 6 hours. Tired of waiting. Quoting: Quanta 4248360 Want to run a book? What time will they come out? 1.30am.. fekkin wanker............... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1880562 Australia10/30/2011 06:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded Been in that meeting for 6 hours. Tired of waiting. Quoting: Quanta 4248360 Want to run a book? What time will they come out? "8:13pm [EDT]: Submissions from the various parties have now being heard by FWA. The three judges are now expected to look over what has been said. This process may take up to two hours. We may see an end to the dispute tonight." [link to www.smh.com.au] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2762626 Australia10/30/2011 06:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded put a big enough dent in Qantas, you put a dent in tourism. that in turn puts a dent in our dollar. the economy hurts. people scream for resolution. qantas say the solution is outsourcing jobs to cheaper nations. as chomsky put it years ago, its a class war against "pampered western workers" that also helps consolidate power. |
| citizenperth User ID: 3745182 Australia10/30/2011 07:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded put a big enough dent in Qantas, you put a dent in tourism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2762626 that in turn puts a dent in our dollar. the economy hurts. people scream for resolution. qantas say the solution is outsourcing jobs to cheaper nations. as chomsky put it years ago, its a class war against "pampered western workers" that also helps consolidate power. bingo... ty tiger........... It's life as we know it, but only just. [link to citizenperth.wordpress.com] sic ut vos es vos should exsisto , denego alius vicis facio vos change , exsisto youself , proprie |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 2762626 Australia10/30/2011 07:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Qantas Australia grounds its ENTIRE FLEET.... all QANTAS-based plans halted, passengers stranded put a big enough dent in Qantas, you put a dent in tourism. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2762626 that in turn puts a dent in our dollar. the economy hurts. people scream for resolution. qantas say the solution is outsourcing jobs to cheaper nations. as chomsky put it years ago, its a class war against "pampered western workers" that also helps consolidate power. bingo... ty tiger........... not many people see it that clearly tho man, its not as plain as the media puts it, and its also not some deep conspiracy... its merely a business strategy (or action plan) that has been used over and over again. this is big business, and people dont realise they dont give a fuck who gets stranded or suffers, they set out a vision, they do all it takes to achieve it. what a corporation has shareholders it is required BY LAW to maximise profits to those shareholders at any chance possile. |
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