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A refresher on natural rights and CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE - especially for the cowardly anti-OWS mindslaves

 
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A refresher on natural rights and CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE - especially for the cowardly anti-OWS mindslaves
so let me get this straight

a body of elected representatives passes a law

and because you don't like it you can just ignore it?

right ok...

see this is exactly how you people think

you're not interested in living in a REPUBLIC

you want things your way or no way....

here's an idea...

don't like America?

GET THE FUCK OUT!


Last Edited by ^TrInItY^ on 10/30/2011 07:05 AM

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Dare to do things worthy of imprisonment if you mean to be of consequence. ~Juvenal

Laws control the lesser man. Right conduct controls the greater one. ~Chinese Proverb

Never do anything against conscience even if the state demands it. ~Albert Einstein

No radical change on the plane of history is possible without crime. ~Hermann Keyserling

When leaders act contrary to conscience, we must act contrary to leaders. ~Veterans Fast for Life

It is dangerous to be right in matters on which the established authorities are wrong. ~Voltaire

If... the machine of government... is of such a nature that it requires you to be the agent of injustice to another, then, I say, break the law. ~Henry David Thoreau, On the Duty of Civil Disobediance,1849

You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it. ~Malcolm X

Human history begins with man's act of disobedience which is at the very same time the beginning of his freedom and development of his reason. ~Erich Fromm, Psychoanalysis and Religion

Each man must for himself alone decide what is right and what is wrong, which course is patriotic and which isn't. You cannot shirk this and be a man. To decide against your conviction is to be an unqualified and excusable traitor, both to yourself and to your country, let men label you as they may. ~Mark Twain

Integrity has no need of rules. ~Albert Camus

If we desire respect for the law, we must first make the law respectable. ~Louis D. Brandeis

Laws are only words written on paper, words that change on society's whim and are interpreted differently daily by politicians, lawyers, judges, and policemen. Anyone who believes that all laws should always be obeyed would have made a fine slave catcher. Anyone who believes that all laws are applied equally, despite race, religion, or economic status, is a fool. ~John J. Miller, And Hope to Die

Disobedience, the rarest and most courageous of the virtues, is seldom distinguished from neglect, the laziest and commonest of the vices. ~George Bernard Shaw, Maxims for Revolutionists

Every actual state is corrupt. Good men must not obey laws too well. ~Ralph Waldo Emerson

We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal." ~Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from Birmingham Jail," Why We Can't Wait,1963

We cannot, by total reliance on law, escape the duty to judge right and wrong.... There are good laws and there are occasionally bad laws, and it conforms to the highest traditions of a free society to offer resistance to bad laws, and to disobey them. ~Alexander Bickel

It is necessary to distinguish between the virtue and the vice of obedience. ~Lemuel K. Washburn, Is The Bible Worth Reading And Other Essays,1911

I think that we should be men first, and subjects afterward. It is not so desirable to cultivate a respect for the law, so much as for the right. ~Henry David Thoreau, Civil Disobedience,1849

As long as the world shall last there will be wrongs, and if no man objected and no man rebelled, those wrongs would last forever. ~Clarence Darrow

It is not what a lawyer tells me I may do; but what humanity, reason, and justice tell me I ought to do. ~Edmund Burke, Second Speech on Conciliation,1775

I am free, no matter what rules surround me. If I find them tolerable, I tolerate them; if I find them too obnoxious, I break them. I am free because I know that I alone am morally responsible for everything I do. ~Robert A. Heinlein, The Moon is a Harsh Mistress

Ordinarily, a person leaving a courtroom with a conviction behind him would wear a somber face. But I left with a smile. I knew that I was a convicted criminal, but I was proud of my crime. ~Martin Luther King, Jr., March 22, 1956

If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. ~Bishop Desmond Tutu

It is not a man's duty, as a matter of course, to devote himself to the eradication of any, even the most enormous wrong; he may still properly have other concerns to engage him; but it is his duty, at least, to wash his hands of it, and, if he gives it no thought longer, not to give it practically his support. If I devote myself to other pursuits and contemplations, I must first see, at least, that I do not pursue them sitting upon another man's shoulders. ~Henry David Thoreau, On the Duty of Civil Disobedience
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Freedom, apple pie, and civil disobedience!
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You know for a few years I was so disenchanted by the things your country has done to innocent people around the world that I hated everything American, but now that you people are talking about open rebellion I am kind of warming to the idea of showing up there (after it's over) lol.
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So OP, you are trying to say to just forget about the law and go ahead and disturb other peoples right to peace?

You think spewing trash all over public property and keeping people in the neighborhood up all night with drumming is within your rights?

Your rights end where another person rights begin. It is that simple.
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You know for a few years I was so disenchanted by the things your country has done to innocent people around the world that I hated everything American, but now that you people are talking about open rebellion I am kind of warming to the idea of showing up there (after it's over) lol.
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You want to come play "Mad Max" with the kiddies?

They don't have a plan except anarchy.

Idiots.
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You know for a few years I was so disenchanted by the things your country has done to innocent people around the world that I hated everything American, but now that you people are talking about open rebellion I am kind of warming to the idea of showing up there (after it's over) lol.
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So OP, you are trying to say to just forget about the law and go ahead and disturb other peoples right to peace?

You think spewing trash all over public property and keeping people in the neighborhood up all night with drumming is within your rights?

Your rights end where another person rights begin. It is that simple.
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We have an inherent, fundamental right to protest.
Which of the above quotes do you disagree with and why?
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So OP, you are trying to say to just forget about the law and go ahead and disturb other peoples right to peace?

You think spewing trash all over public property and keeping people in the neighborhood up all night with drumming is within your rights?

Your rights end where another person rights begin. It is that simple.
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We have an inherent, fundamental right to protest.
Which of the above quotes do you disagree with and why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4349461


You have a right to protest but you don't have a right to infringe on other people's rights.

Like disturbing the peace of others, destroying private or public property or interferring with the rights of others to travel freely on public streets.

You are not the only one with rights.
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We have an inherent, fundamental right to protest.
Which of the above quotes do you disagree with and why?
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I have an inherent right to call the cops and chuckle as you get cuffed when you disturb my right to peace. Go ahead and disagree. I'll LOL when you get tased.
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Re: A refresher on natural rights and CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE - especially for the cowardly anti-OWS mindslaves
So OP, you are trying to say to just forget about the law and go ahead and disturb other peoples right to peace?

You think spewing trash all over public property and keeping people in the neighborhood up all night with drumming is within your rights?

Your rights end where another person rights begin. It is that simple.
 Quoting: _2 swords_


We have an inherent, fundamental right to protest.
Which of the above quotes do you disagree with and why?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4349461


You have a right to protest but you don't have a right to infringe on other people's rights.

Like disturbing the peace of others, destroying private or public property or interferring with the rights of others to travel freely on public streets.

You are not the only one with rights.
 Quoting: _2 swords_


You didn't answer my question.
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Re: A refresher on natural rights and CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE - especially for the cowardly anti-OWS mindslaves
So OP, you are trying to say to just forget about the law and go ahead and disturb other peoples right to peace?

Your rights end where another person rights begin. It is that simple.
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an example of your mentality: "The British are comin"!
For fuck sake Paul could you keep it down? I know we're trying to start a new way of life but cant you see I need some shut eye!
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Well worth reading over!

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