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YU55 Closest Approach Distance Will Be 0.0000416667AU = 3904 miles -> NASA Lying<--

 
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Since this rock is coming East to West and from the sunny side do you believe the potential strike zone should be somewhere in the Pacific??
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. . . itis to land in Barbados area, causing much damage to Florida . . .
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IF it enter into our world, it would break itself in pieces or would enter intact through the atmosphere???
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All Mass Affects Mass.
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Yes. So?

Question is how much?

This rock isn't remotely big enough change the positions of the Earth and the Moon.
So only the accelerations caused by the Sun's, Earth's, and Moon's gravity on this object are relevant.
And those do NOT DEPEND on the object's actual mass.
They are the same for a grain of sand and Mount Everest.
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LAST YEAR, April 2010, Arecibo Radar Telescope revealed 2005 YU55 as a spherical object of about 400 meters: [link to www.pressoffice.cornell.edu]
[link to www.jpl.nasa.gov]

LAST YEAR"S ORBIT was determined with the SAME KNOWN SIZE, as if it matters.

Asteroid 2005 YU55 will not hit the Moon either: [link to astroblogger.blogspot.com]
 Quoting: TBar1984


Thank you for that Link.

But I have seen on various Sites differing estimates for the Asteroids Size over Time.

Chances are it will miss..but Im' just putting out the other information aside from that of JPL and NASA.

We need to be aware of all the possible scenarios rather than just that of JPL,no?
 Quoting: Spittin'Cesium

I would be EXTREMELY CAREFUL of where you seek information. I would not, under any circumstance, rely on information from people such as shown in the below video. I'm linking to this to illustrate just how much certain sites know about such simple matters as when a Full Moon occurs. If they don't understand about what causes a Full Moon, how on Earth could they possibly understand Orbital Mechanics?


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Dont know why you have a hair across your ass about the guy. He is asking for help not claiming anything. And frankly Id rather listen to him talk than your arrogant ass.
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Cause he's a Liar? He said he wouldn't upload another video if someone explained how an object could be in HI1 & HI2 at the same time. I proved it. He has been WRONG ABOUT EVERYTHING, but, being Dyslexic would probably make him appear right to you.
Here's a partial list:
Pleiades on HI1 was Elenin
Pleiades on H!2 was Elenin
45p/Honda was Nibiru
45p/Honda was Elenin
Elenin was a vast Poisonous Gas cloud that would kill us all
Elenin's tail would cause a meteor storm a week ago
Two Main Belt Asteroids were 'Twins' and inbound Earth..
etc.

He is putting out LIES that people are believing, just like YOU.



Oh, a few days after he started out, I tried to help Him. He Banned Me, just as he bans anyone that tries to correct his Mis-Information. How can anyone 'help' him when he bans them? He's lying about the 'help' also, else he wouldn't ban everyone that tries to 'help'....FOOL.

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From another site:

I am an engineer and my job involves various approaches to manipulating and analyzing data. I have this macro tool i use to interpolate and extrapolate data. So I took the distances of YU55 between Nov 4 - 11 (according to JPL, the close approach data is Nov 9 at 0.0022AU). Therefore, i get the following dataset:

Date Ref App Dist.
4 -5 0.0391
5 -4 0.0312
6 -3 0.0234
7 -2 0.0156
8 -1 0.0079
9 0 0.0022
10 1 0.0085
11 2 0.0162

Then I interpolate a per hour basis. So it looks something like:

Date Ref App Dist.
4 -5 -0.0391
-4.958333333 -0.038770833
-4.916666667 -0.038441667
-4.875 -0.0381125
... ... ...

Now think about this for a second... First of all, over a 7 day period, the trajectories of these two bodies are going to be relatively linear (straight). Therefore, the relative distance between the two will be linear as well (no corealis or angular acceleration or anything like that). Therefore, I should not see any significant disturbances in the data.
Secondly, the day to day distance given by jpl is taken at a 24 hr interval. Everything in between, they interpolate (supposedly just like I did). I compared their hour by hour distance to my interpolated data. All was spot on Until I got to the 8th (day before/of close approach). I observed that their distance decayed much more slowly than mine. So I created the following data. Notice, i applied the use of negative and positive distance to account for distance before and after close approach:

4 -5 -0.0391
5 -4 -0.0312
6 -3 -0.0234
7 -2 -0.0156
8 -1 -0.0079
9 0 0.0022
10 1 0.0085
11 2 0.0162

And came up with this during the course of Nov 8th:

8 -1 -0.0079
-0.958333333 -0.007479167
-0.916666667 -0.007058333
-0.875 -0.0066375
-0.833333333 -0.006216667
-0.791666667 -0.005795833
-0.75 -0.005375
-0.708333333 -0.004954167
-0.666666667 -0.004533333
-0.625 -0.0041125
-0.583333333 -0.003691667
-0.541666667 -0.003270833
-0.5 -0.00285
-0.458333333 -0.002429167
-0.416666667 -0.002008333
-0.375 -0.0015875
-0.333333333 -0.001166667
-0.291666667 -0.000745833
-0.25 -0.000325
-0.208333333 9.58333E-05
-0.166666667 0.000516667
-0.125 0.0009375
-0.083333333 0.001358333
-0.041666667 0.001779167
9 0 0.0022

Which indicates that the close approach distance is actually 0.0000958333 AU at about 7pm.

When I plotted this across the close approach date (9th, or day 0), I saw an odd jink (referenced above by differing distance decay), indicating that the supposed close approach distance (.0022) was further than the distance that the data would indicate IF (0, .0022) was not a 'known' point in the data.
So, I took the same approach, except using this data as reference:

Date Ref App Dist.
4 -5 -0.0391
5 -4 -0.0312
6 -3 -0.0234
7 -2 -0.0156
8 -1 -0.0079
10 1 0.0085
11 2 0.0162

Now things get interesting. According to this data, removing the supposed close approach distance which made me suspicious, the following is what the 8th looks like:

8 -1 -0.0079
-0.958333333 -0.007558333
-0.916666667 -0.007216667
-0.875 -0.006875
-0.833333333 -0.006533333
-0.791666667 -0.006191667
-0.75 -0.00585
-0.708333333 -0.005508333
-0.666666667 -0.005166667
-0.625 -0.004825
-0.583333333 -0.004483333
-0.541666667 -0.004141667
-0.5 -0.0038
-0.458333333 -0.003458333
-0.416666667 -0.003116667
-0.375 -0.002775
-0.333333333 -0.002433333
-0.291666667 -0.002091667
-0.25 -0.00175
-0.208333333 -0.001408333
-0.166666667 -0.001066667
-0.125 -0.000725
-0.083333333 -0.000383333
-0.041666667 -4.16667E-05
9 0 0.0003
0.041666667 0.000641667
0.083333333 0.000983333

Which indicates that the close approach distance is 0.0000416667AU = 3904 miles at about 11pm on the 8th, which is quite about closer than 200,000 miles.

This might not make sense to some. All I am trying to say here is that it appears the JPL data is inconsistent.


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If it were a threat they would nuke it since its about 300/400 meters its easily done.
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Why would they nuke it, they want it to hit. They need anything that will cause the fear to build for something much worse down the road
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GET THIS PEOPLE! WHEN MEASURING THE DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO HEAVENLY BODIES, THE MEASUREMENTS ARE MADE FROM THE MIDDLE OF ONE BODY TO THE MIDDLE OF THE OTHER BODY. OP CALCULATES A DISTANCE FROM THE EARTH TO YU55 AS 3904 MILES, CENTER TO CENTER. THE DIAMETER OF THE EARTH IS 7923 MILES. IF YOU TAKE 1/2 OF THE EARTH'S DIAMETER WHICH IS EQUAL TO 3861 MILES (THE DISTANCE FROM THE CENTER TO THE EDGE) AND 1/2 OF THE DIAMETER OF YU55 WHICH IS EQUAL TO 650 FEET OR APPROX. 1/9 OF A MILE, THEN YOU BASICALLY HAVE A MISS DISTANCE OF 43 FEET. FACTOR IN ATMOSPHERIC DRAG, AND YOU HAVE IMPACT PEOPLE! IMPACT!
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so....no doom?
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GET THIS PEOPLE! WHEN MEASURING THE DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO HEAVENLY BODIES, THE MEASUREMENTS ARE MADE FROM THE MIDDLE OF ONE BODY TO THE MIDDLE OF THE OTHER BODY. OP CALCULATES A DISTANCE FROM THE EARTH TO YU55 AS 3904 MILES, CENTER TO CENTER. THE DIAMETER OF THE EARTH IS 7923 MILES. IF YOU TAKE 1/2 OF THE EARTH'S DIAMETER WHICH IS EQUAL TO 3861 MILES (THE DISTANCE FROM THE CENTER TO THE EDGE) AND 1/2 OF THE DIAMETER OF YU55 WHICH IS EQUAL TO 650 FEET OR APPROX. 1/9 OF A MILE, THEN YOU BASICALLY HAVE A MISS DISTANCE OF 43 FEET. FACTOR IN ATMOSPHERIC DRAG, AND YOU HAVE IMPACT PEOPLE! IMPACT!
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so....no doom?
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At closest approach on Tuesday at 3:28 pm PST (23:28 UT), the 400m-wide space rock will be 324,600 kilometers away, about 85% the distance from Earth to the Moon.
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a.
Secondly, the day to day distance given by jpl is taken at a 24 hr interval. Everything in between, they interpolate (supposedly just like I did). I compared their hour by hour
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Wrong. The diagram gives hourly distances. Change the step size. And JPL Horizons site, much more accurate, gives the distances for any times. I've posted the results many times.

And to get the minimum distance by interpolation, use an algorithm that calculates it.
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let's try an catch it
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thats a swell idea
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As next week approaches two events are standing out, one is the arrival mid week of what has been incorrectly described as an asteroid. It is in fact an intelligently controlled craft, and it remains to be seen how it interacts with your Earth or Moon. On Friday you have the eagerly awaited 11.11.11 bringing with it another great upsurge of energy, that will bring about a wonderful upliftment in your levels of consciousness.
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A couple questions for you my friend...
stfu
If it a "fact" an intelligently controlled craft is headed this way, who are the "pilots" of said craft and WHY are "they" coming to Earth?
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this another ELENIN thing
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IF it enter into our world, it would break itself in pieces or would enter intact through the atmosphere???
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GET THIS PEOPLE! WHEN MEASURING THE DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO HEAVENLY BODIES, THE MEASUREMENTS ARE MADE FROM THE MIDDLE OF ONE BODY TO THE MIDDLE OF THE OTHER BODY. OP CALCULATES A DISTANCE FROM THE EARTH TO YU55 AS 3904 MILES, CENTER TO CENTER. THE DIAMETER OF THE EARTH IS 7923 MILES. IF YOU TAKE 1/2 OF THE EARTH'S DIAMETER WHICH IS EQUAL TO 3861 MILES (THE DISTANCE FROM THE CENTER TO THE EDGE) AND 1/2 OF THE DIAMETER OF YU55 WHICH IS EQUAL TO 650 FEET OR APPROX. 1/9 OF A MILE, THEN YOU BASICALLY HAVE A MISS DISTANCE OF 43 FEET. FACTOR IN ATMOSPHERIC DRAG, AND YOU HAVE IMPACT PEOPLE! IMPACT!
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so....no doom?
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At closest approach on Tuesday at 3:28 pm PST (23:28 UT), the 400m-wide space rock will be 324,600 kilometers away, about 85% the distance from Earth to the Moon.
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There will be no impact. Particularly because it's an alien spaceship. They are peaceful. The ones you should be concerned about are in the bus governent. 0_o.

But don't worry about it,
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Looks like T Bar had a 'date' with the 'Nut' , lol !

ALL your calculations are suspect T-Bar, as we know your a government agent, who always knows better.
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why is it astronut is never around when someone, that seems to know what they are talking about, comes with a challenging question?

where are you astronut?

can anyone here disprove the maths? does anyone actually understand the maths?
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Didn't Gaia Man talk about this?
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I saw you on Apollo's thread...can you tell me why you say it's right?

I am really interested after what you said and the way he responded (about the maipulation of water)...

DDan
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We have to opposing arguments here..Newtons' Laws and Einsteins..here - [link to www.gravityforthemasses.com]

We are both right and wrong : )
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Newton and Einstein do not oppose.

Newtonian physics comes right out of GR as long as the speed and masses involved aren't very large.
The effect is exactly the same.
It is not as if Newton ever had a clue what caused this spooky action at a distance.

In GR there still is inertia.
In GR big and small still fall at the same rate.

Astronomers were quite able to successfully calculate the orbits of the planets* and predict occultation before Einstein.
book
* With the exception of the precession of Mercury's orbit.
Reaching for the sky makes you taller.

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Looks like T Bar had a 'date' with the 'Nut' , lol !

ALL your calculations are suspect T-Bar, as we know your a government agent, who always knows better.
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Love your proof! You have none, so you resort to personal attacks. You are nothing more than another imbecilic Cowardly Moron.

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What time EST and direction, please.
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...and that's 3904 miles from the center of the earth, whose radius is 7926.28 miles.

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Oh Shit! Was this factored in the miss?
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Astromut, I'm looking in your direction
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Another one wanting to be brought into the darkeness.

If you baaalieve anything the mut man has to say then your an idiot.
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GET THIS PEOPLE! WHEN MEASURING THE DISTANCE BETWEEN TWO HEAVENLY BODIES, THE MEASUREMENTS ARE MADE FROM THE MIDDLE OF ONE BODY TO THE MIDDLE OF THE OTHER BODY. OP CALCULATES A DISTANCE FROM THE EARTH TO YU55 AS 3904 MILES, CENTER TO CENTER. THE DIAMETER OF THE EARTH IS 7923 MILES. IF YOU TAKE 1/2 OF THE EARTH'S DIAMETER WHICH IS EQUAL TO 3861 MILES (THE DISTANCE FROM THE CENTER TO THE EDGE) AND 1/2 OF THE DIAMETER OF YU55 WHICH IS EQUAL TO 650 FEET OR APPROX. 1/9 OF A MILE, THEN YOU BASICALLY HAVE A MISS DISTANCE OF 43 FEET. FACTOR IN ATMOSPHERIC DRAG, AND YOU HAVE IMPACT PEOPLE! IMPACT!
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Nahhh... the atmospheric drag will only eat up about 30 feet. So we still have a clearance of 13 feet.

We'll be fine!
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yu55 is under israeli control and will hit iran, its obviously a new weapon
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<<<Which indicates that the close approach distance is 0.0000416667AU = 3904 miles at about 11pm on the 8th, which is quite about closer than 200,000 miles.

This might not make sense to some. All I am trying to say here is that it appears the JPL data is inconsistent.>>>



Isn't this close enough to be captured by the Earth's gravity?
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Just following the trail of thought at the moment.

The moon at more than 200,000 miles away from earth is captured in earth's gravity, at just the right point to maintain its regular orbit.

So, what do you think?
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Please don't insult the asteroid's intelligence. Haven't you heard? It has a mind of its own and will make its own course based on its own wishes.

From another site:

I am an engineer and my job involves various approaches to manipulating and analyzing data. I have this macro tool i use to interpolate and extrapolate data. So I took the distances of YU55 between Nov 4 - 11 (according to JPL, the close approach data is Nov 9 at 0.0022AU). Therefore, i get the following dataset:

Date Ref App Dist.
4 -5 0.0391
5 -4 0.0312
6 -3 0.0234
7 -2 0.0156
8 -1 0.0079
9 0 0.0022
10 1 0.0085
11 2 0.0162

Then I interpolate a per hour basis. So it looks something like:

Date Ref App Dist.
4 -5 -0.0391
-4.958333333 -0.038770833
-4.916666667 -0.038441667
-4.875 -0.0381125
... ... ...

Now think about this for a second... First of all, over a 7 day period, the trajectories of these two bodies are going to be relatively linear (straight). Therefore, the relative distance between the two will be linear as well (no corealis or angular acceleration or anything like that). Therefore, I should not see any significant disturbances in the data.
Secondly, the day to day distance given by jpl is taken at a 24 hr interval. Everything in between, they interpolate (supposedly just like I did). I compared their hour by hour distance to my interpolated data. All was spot on Until I got to the 8th (day before/of close approach). I observed that their distance decayed much more slowly than mine. So I created the following data. Notice, i applied the use of negative and positive distance to account for distance before and after close approach:

4 -5 -0.0391
5 -4 -0.0312
6 -3 -0.0234
7 -2 -0.0156
8 -1 -0.0079
9 0 0.0022
10 1 0.0085
11 2 0.0162

And came up with this during the course of Nov 8th:

8 -1 -0.0079
-0.958333333 -0.007479167
-0.916666667 -0.007058333
-0.875 -0.0066375
-0.833333333 -0.006216667
-0.791666667 -0.005795833
-0.75 -0.005375
-0.708333333 -0.004954167
-0.666666667 -0.004533333
-0.625 -0.0041125
-0.583333333 -0.003691667
-0.541666667 -0.003270833
-0.5 -0.00285
-0.458333333 -0.002429167
-0.416666667 -0.002008333
-0.375 -0.0015875
-0.333333333 -0.001166667
-0.291666667 -0.000745833
-0.25 -0.000325
-0.208333333 9.58333E-05
-0.166666667 0.000516667
-0.125 0.0009375
-0.083333333 0.001358333
-0.041666667 0.001779167
9 0 0.0022

finish it here [link to www.myweathertech.com]
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