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IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?

 
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IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
Where cable is concerned (which is how I am connected to the Internet) would disconnecting the cable physically at the box outside prevent the downloading of any software?

I'm not very techie - any discussion/advice on this appreciated.

I go the idea that they might be downloading spyware here:
[link to theintelhub.com]

Two paragraphs from the link above:

"I believe what is actually behind this might be the downloading of some kind of code needed to make the shut-down apparatus work efficiently. Think about your cable system if you have one or even an upgrade to many computer programs.
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A new code must be downloaded and installed, then the system shutdown and re-booted for the changes to take effect. And, just like these coded program changes in computers and cable, once you re-boot, whatever was newly installed is activated and just runs silently behind the scenes."
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
I would imagine just unplug everything, but I couldn't tell you they won't download something later.

Cable internet providers can download software without taking you offline; I know, I used to work for one.

It may be that the code is already there and today's 2p "test" involves a reboot of some kind.
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
I would imagine just unplug everything, but I couldn't tell you they won't download something later.

Cable internet providers can download software without taking you offline; I know, I used to work for one.

It may be that the code is already there and today's 2p "test" involves a reboot of some kind.
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Aw shucks - can't beat 'em.

So, what do YOU think this is all about? Do you agree with the article? It doesn't make any sense to me except for nefarious purposes. I just can't figure out what the nefarious purposes are.
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
BTW, your "cheshire kitten" freaks me out. Is it a code for something nefarious?

lmao
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
So, what do YOU think this is all about? Do you agree with the article? It doesn't make any sense to me except for nefarious purposes. I just can't figure out what the nefarious purposes are.
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Awwe you know how I feel about it :-) But let me go through it:

"In what is obviously a muscle flexing exercise meant to show the public just how much power and control the federal government really has"

Did anyone really doubt the government could do this? I intuitively understood this as a kid.


"I am trying to figure out what kind of national emergency would require cutting all communications, broadcasts and internet use?"

Internet use? Where has that been said by FEMA?


"If this were a test to make sure the system was intact in the event of an emergency I could understand it. But that isnít what this is."

On what basis is he making this claim?


"A new code must be downloaded and installed, then the system shutdown and re-booted for the changes to take effect."

Trouble with that is there are oodles of different makes and models of boxes and devices. Take for example the computer space: For the operating system you have Windows, Mac, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DOS, etc. Then you have hardware: Dell, HP, IBM, etc. That doesn't include smart phones (iPhone/Android/etc.) and all the associated hardware. Will the download work on all systems?


The only thing to me that's odd about this test is:
1. No EAT code.
2. A soldier came on here last week (who has a legit thread history) who claims his superiors want him to tell people not to panic, which he said has never happened.

So while I'm curious, I'm not panicking like Beaker:
beakerpanic
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BTW, your "cheshire kitten" freaks me out. Is it a code for something nefarious?

lmao
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Haha yes, it's Illuminati code. No, I just found him in the Members Area -> Choose Avatar and laughed. I can't upload a custom avatar as I don't have a paid account. So this works. Fits my playful attitude.
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The only thing to me that's odd about this test is:
1. No EAT code.
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And as has been pointed out elsewhere, this doom is because there is no EAT rimshot

Last Edited by SlowBro on 11/09/2011 09:00 AM
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
BTW, your "cheshire kitten" freaks me out. Is it a code for something nefarious?

lmao
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Haha yes, it's Illuminati code. No, I just found him in the Members Area -> Choose Avatar and laughed. I can't upload a custom avatar as I don't have a paid account. So this works. Fits my playful attitude.
 Quoting: cdevidal


How can you have an Avatar and Karma without a paid account?
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
Oh, and one more thing. Are YOU able to get email notices on threads? It doesn't work for me and Trinity isn't replying to my email asking him how to fix it...
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
So, what do YOU think this is all about? Do you agree with the article? It doesn't make any sense to me except for nefarious purposes. I just can't figure out what the nefarious purposes are.
 Quoting: Inquiring Mind


Awwe you know how I feel about it :-) But let me go through it:

"In what is obviously a muscle flexing exercise meant to show the public just how much power and control the federal government really has"

Did anyone really doubt the government could do this? I intuitively understood this as a kid.


"I am trying to figure out what kind of national emergency would require cutting all communications, broadcasts and internet use?"

Internet use? Where has that been said by FEMA?


"If this were a test to make sure the system was intact in the event of an emergency I could understand it. But that isnít what this is."

On what basis is he making this claim?


"A new code must be downloaded and installed, then the system shutdown and re-booted for the changes to take effect."

Trouble with that is there are oodles of different makes and models of boxes and devices. Take for example the computer space: For the operating system you have Windows, Mac, Linux, FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD, DOS, etc. Then you have hardware: Dell, HP, IBM, etc. That doesn't include smart phones (iPhone/Android/etc.) and all the associated hardware. Will the download work on all systems?


The only thing to me that's odd about this test is:
1. No EAT code.
2. A soldier came on here last week (who has a legit thread history) who claims his superiors want him to tell people not to panic, which he said has never happened.

So while I'm curious, I'm not panicking like Beaker:
beakerpanic
 Quoting: cdevidal


After the Denver Bunker / Elenin Doom failed, I'm less inclined to "beaker panic" on this one.
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
Regarding cdevidal's comment about OS's, I agree...it would be pretty difficult to have ONE code work for all systems. However, multiple code for various systems is feasible, especially if it is small enough...porting it to different systems isn't that tricky, really. Too bad I plan on shutting my FreeBSD box down during this, or I could monitor what traffic comes and goes - not taking any chances :)
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
Regarding cdevidal's comment about OS's, I agree...it would be pretty difficult to have ONE code work for all systems. However, multiple code for various systems is feasible, especially if it is small enough...porting it to different systems isn't that tricky, really. Too bad I plan on shutting my FreeBSD box down during this, or I could monitor what traffic comes and goes - not taking any chances :)
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Things that make me (a NON techie) go hmmmmm...
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
Regarding cdevidal's comment about OS's, I agree...it would be pretty difficult to have ONE code work for all systems. However, multiple code for various systems is feasible, especially if it is small enough...porting it to different systems isn't that tricky, really. Too bad I plan on shutting my FreeBSD box down during this, or I could monitor what traffic comes and goes - not taking any chances :)
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Things that make me (a NON techie) go hmmmmm...
 Quoting: Inquiring Mind

FWIW, I am not actually that worried about it, just adding my $.02 to the conversation :)

Believe me, if something DOES get planted, it will be the free OS communities that discover it first. You'll hear about it pretty quickly if something does happen.
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
BTW, your "cheshire kitten" freaks me out. Is it a code for something nefarious?

lmao
 Quoting: Inquiring Mind


Haha yes, it's Illuminati code. No, I just found him in the Members Area -> Choose Avatar and laughed. I can't upload a custom avatar as I don't have a paid account. So this works. Fits my playful attitude.
 Quoting: cdevidal


How can you have an Avatar and Karma without a paid account?
 Quoting: Inquiring Mind


Avatar: I just went to the Members Area and it's there. Maybe it comes after you've been here a while?
Karma: Always had that.
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
Regarding cdevidal's comment about OS's, I agree...it would be pretty difficult to have ONE code work for all systems. However, multiple code for various systems is feasible, especially if it is small enough...porting it to different systems isn't that tricky, really. Too bad I plan on shutting my FreeBSD box down during this, or I could monitor what traffic comes and goes - not taking any chances :)
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True.

I meant to add this: "In the same way, there are dozens of makes and models of set top boxes, digital radios, etc."
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Regarding cdevidal's comment about OS's, I agree...it would be pretty difficult to have ONE code work for all systems. However, multiple code for various systems is feasible, especially if it is small enough...porting it to different systems isn't that tricky, really. Too bad I plan on shutting my FreeBSD box down during this, or I could monitor what traffic comes and goes - not taking any chances :)
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True.

I meant to add this: "In the same way, there are dozens of makes and models of set top boxes, digital radios, etc."
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And please don't take my post as criticism, I was just elaborating on what you said. Hell, I am impressed you even knew about the BSD's, most people are lucky to even know what Linux is :)
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
Regarding cdevidal's comment about OS's, I agree...it would be pretty difficult to have ONE code work for all systems. However, multiple code for various systems is feasible, especially if it is small enough...porting it to different systems isn't that tricky, really. Too bad I plan on shutting my FreeBSD box down during this, or I could monitor what traffic comes and goes - not taking any chances :)
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True.

I meant to add this: "In the same way, there are dozens of makes and models of set top boxes, digital radios, etc."
 Quoting: cdevidal


And please don't take my post as criticism, I was just elaborating on what you said. Hell, I am impressed you even knew about the BSD's, most people are lucky to even know what Linux is :)
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oh oh oh (says Inquiring Mind with her hand in the air) I know what a Linux is - I've seen them at the zoo!

"rofl"
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oh oh oh (says Inquiring Mind with her hand in the air) I know what a Linux is - I've seen them at the zoo!

"rofl"
 Quoting: Inquiring Mind


1rof1

Bet there was a Beastie or two there as well!

(maybe a handful of people will even get that joke)
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Re: IF the communications shut down today is to download software, how can you thwart it?
Regarding cdevidal's comment about OS's, I agree...it would be pretty difficult to have ONE code work for all systems. However, multiple code for various systems is feasible, especially if it is small enough...porting it to different systems isn't that tricky, really. Too bad I plan on shutting my FreeBSD box down during this, or I could monitor what traffic comes and goes - not taking any chances :)
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True.

I meant to add this: "In the same way, there are dozens of makes and models of set top boxes, digital radios, etc."
 Quoting: cdevidal


And please don't take my post as criticism, I was just elaborating on what you said. Hell, I am impressed you even knew about the BSD's, most people are lucky to even know what Linux is :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1294875


Oh I didn't consider it criticism :-D





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