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GLPVC Presents *LUCUS*(The Destroyer, Nibiru, Denver Airport, etc) PODCASTS UP pg 8

 
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If this is true 'US Gov classifies space rocks as top secret', then why are Space Rocks still listed here [link to neo.jpl.nasa.gov] and here [link to www.minorplanetcenter.org] ?

I just made another video on space rocks here [link to www.youtube.com] is my video Top Secret? I suspect your statement is 'not exactly' correct....

You don't believe anyone with a telescope, yet you believe that Sundiving Comets are at an all time high even though the Sundivers weren't really widely known about until the Soho mission.

hmm
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[link to www.space.com]
 Quoting: LUCUS


Yep, I know of that article. Basically it says the data from the SECRET SATELLITES are classified, NOT Space Rocks in general. There is a MAJOR difference.

Your general statement 'US Gov classifies space rocks as top secret' is Wrong. The Satellites are Secret, not the Rocks, therefore, just as I stated, you are NOT 'exactly correct'. In fact, you are wrong.
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I did not make up the headline Einstein... Go bitch to the media then, not me.

Military hush-up: Space rocks now classified
Scientists say research into the threat from space will be hampered

SO NO... In FACT YOU ARE WRONG
 Quoting: LUCUS

Apparently you are very good at making Headlines say exactly what you desire. The FACT IS, the DATA from the Secret Satellites is Secret, the article makes this clear. I guess this is typical of your other 'research'? If that is the case, you are just another charlatan. I'm shocked...not.
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Wow, all of the Nibiru-debunking shills are here, every one of them! chuckle
Always without fail they show up if someone brings facts to the table.
That alone proves Lucas is on to something.

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Here, let me tell you guys a little story, to clear up why "some" of the shillery is probably going on.

Back when I first created the presentation I was approached by someone named LEMONATOR who had seen my presentation on this site.

Lemonator offered to do a free website to put the presentation on the internet. I agreed. The presentation was free.

Shortly afterward, this woman, from Canada, named Lemonator on this site, started "selling" the presentation, but yet, not filling the orders. I know her real name but I will just keep that to myself, for now.

I demanded that Lemonator take the presentation down, which she bluntly refused and said that there was nothing I could do about it, that she was going to do it anyway if I like it or not.

I then went and got the presentation copyrighted, had an attorney write me a letter which I sent her through email. She still refused to take it down.

One thing she forgot, was the fact that I still had admin access to the site. I went into the site and destroyed it deleting all the members not before getting all their emails first.

I built my own site and they came over.

She then emailed me and threatened to "Destroy Me" and said that I would be discredited all over the net after she was done with me.

I bet I can still dig up all those old emails if need be and I'm sure some of you remember Lemonator and her scam she tried to pull.
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Apparently you are very good at making Headlines say exactly what you desire.
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I have never heard a more obvious and blatant attempt to try and twist things around LOL

THE HEADLINES SAY WHAT THEY SAY EINSTEIN
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Here, let me tell you guys a little story, to clear up why "some" of the shillery is probably going on.

Back when I first created the presentation I was approached by someone named LEMONATOR who had seen my presentation on this site.

Lemonator offered to do a free website to put the presentation on the internet. I agreed. The presentation was free.

Shortly afterward, this woman, from Canada, named Lemonator on this site, started "selling" the presentation, but yet, not filling the orders. I know her real name but I will just keep that to myself, for now.

I demanded that Lemonator take the presentation down, which she bluntly refused and said that there was nothing I could do about it, that she was going to do it anyway if I like it or not.

I then went and got the presentation copyrighted, had an attorney write me a letter which I sent her through email. She still refused to take it down.

One thing she forgot, was the fact that I still had admin access to the site. I went into the site and destroyed it deleting all the members not before getting all their emails first.

I built my own site and they came over.

She then emailed me and threatened to "Destroy Me" and said that I would be discredited all over the net after she was done with me.

I bet I can still dig up all those old emails if need be and I'm sure some of you remember Lemonator and her scam she tried to pull.
 Quoting: LUCUS


Could be that too, but these same shills are most likely hired to shut down any subject regarding Nibiru.
I've see the same exact ones attack others posting on the same subject here.
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Here, let me tell you guys a little story, to clear up why "some" of the shillery is probably going on.

Back when I first created the presentation I was approached by someone named LEMONATOR who had seen my presentation on this site.

Lemonator offered to do a free website to put the presentation on the internet. I agreed. The presentation was free.

Shortly afterward, this woman, from Canada, named Lemonator on this site, started "selling" the presentation, but yet, not filling the orders. I know her real name but I will just keep that to myself, for now.

I demanded that Lemonator take the presentation down, which she bluntly refused and said that there was nothing I could do about it, that she was going to do it anyway if I like it or not.

I then went and got the presentation copyrighted, had an attorney write me a letter which I sent her through email. She still refused to take it down.

One thing she forgot, was the fact that I still had admin access to the site. I went into the site and destroyed it deleting all the members not before getting all their emails first.

I built my own site and they came over.

She then emailed me and threatened to "Destroy Me" and said that I would be discredited all over the net after she was done with me.

I bet I can still dig up all those old emails if need be and I'm sure some of you remember Lemonator and her scam she tried to pull.
 Quoting: LUCUS

Love how you call the facts 'shillery'. Have you thought about how it might not be a good idea to have the data from Top Secret Spy Satellites freely available to any organization on the Planet? It doesn't take a genius to determine that might not be a good idea. To compensate for this, the International Meteor Organization [link to www.imo.net] has been setting up all sky cameras to record the same data. The 'Space Rocks' themselves remain unclassified, as usual.
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Sounds like a great guest wil drop in
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Sounds like a great guest wil drop in
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Sounds like a great guest wil drop in
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Well said....shills trying to derail...
Chas
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Apparently you are very good at making Headlines say exactly what you desire.
 Quoting: TBar1984


I have never heard a more obvious and blatant attempt to try and twist things around LOL

THE HEADLINES SAY WHAT THEY SAY EINSTEIN
 Quoting: LUCUS


I could say the exact same thing. The article clearly points out it's the data from the secret satellites that is classified, not the rocks. It's YOU that is preforming the deception. That is most 'obvious and blatant'.
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I'm pretty sure you are just verrrrry paranoid Lucus...... lay off the rock
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Apparently you are very good at making Headlines say exactly what you desire.
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I have never heard a more obvious and blatant attempt to try and twist things around LOL

THE HEADLINES SAY WHAT THEY SAY EINSTEIN
 Quoting: LUCUS


I could say the exact same thing. The article clearly points out it's the data from the secret satellites that is classified, not the rocks. It's YOU that is preforming the deception. That is most 'obvious and blatant'.
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Here, let me tell you guys a little story, to clear up why "some" of the shillery is probably going on.

Back when I first created the presentation I was approached by someone named LEMONATOR who had seen my presentation on this site.

Lemonator offered to do a free website to put the presentation on the internet. I agreed. The presentation was free.

Shortly afterward, this woman, from Canada, named Lemonator on this site, started "selling" the presentation, but yet, not filling the orders. I know her real name but I will just keep that to myself, for now.

I demanded that Lemonator take the presentation down, which she bluntly refused and said that there was nothing I could do about it, that she was going to do it anyway if I like it or not.

I then went and got the presentation copyrighted, had an attorney write me a letter which I sent her through email. She still refused to take it down.

One thing she forgot, was the fact that I still had admin access to the site. I went into the site and destroyed it deleting all the members not before getting all their emails first.

I built my own site and they came over.

She then emailed me and threatened to "Destroy Me" and said that I would be discredited all over the net after she was done with me.

I bet I can still dig up all those old emails if need be and I'm sure some of you remember Lemonator and her scam she tried to pull.
 Quoting: LUCUS


Once again.... derailing the issue. who cares about your personal problems??
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ATTENTION:

We are all searching for answers, truth or just more prudent information, to what is going on in our world. Regardless of what your opinions are, its "his" truth or story, and its obviously a great discussion topic. Please, if you have "legitimate" and challenging questions for *LUCAS* please submit them in this thread, and I or another mod will ask them tonight. I do not agree with everything he has put together, but atleast he is putting something out there for all of us to think about and discuss. That is what makes GLP unique.

Another thing, all of the VC Mods, Phenn, Hubnutz, Jadio, 2342, Jay, Kingman-Art,and Yobbo work hard to bring in different guests, ask them questions, and let you the members interact. We are not paid for this, we do this for the community as to bring better discussion to this forum. All I ask, is please to respect GLPVC guests, and that you ask great questions. You dont have to like the guests, but please, be more constructive to the topic and to this forum.

You all rock!!!!!!

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I'm not very "up" on how this site works.

Is there any way to tell if a current AC is possibly someone from the past who posted here under a different name?
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I'm not very "up" on how this site works.

Is there any way to tell if a current AC is possibly someone from the past who posted here under a different name?
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Well, you've got almost 600 posts on GLP...you're probably best off asking a Mod. chuckle
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I'm not very "up" on how this site works.

Is there any way to tell if a current AC is possibly someone from the past who posted here under a different name?
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Is everyone who doesnt agree with you out to get you Lucus? You really need to get some fresh air, I dont know who this person is, or what they did to you.. I just do not agree with your presentation and the way you conduct yourself.

Doom porn as a business, its just very unethical and that is just my opinion and I'll leave this thread alone now so you can continue.

Peace.
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If there is another binary sun (planet, whatever) that is going to shift the earths pole within the next 18 months, why sell the DVD series for $29?

Money as we know it will be worthless, you've probably already put yourself in a position where you can live in a safe zone, and giving away your information free could save hundreds of thousands of lives.

I just get a little suspicious of anyone who says they have salvation for sale.


Not that I don't believe this because we all agree the shit is hitting the fan... and your points about the weirdness in the news is well taken.. Just askin' the question.
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I'm not very "up" on how this site works.

Is there any way to tell if a current AC is possibly someone from the past who posted here under a different name?
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Is everyone who doesnt agree with you out to get you Lucus? You really need to get some fresh air, I dont know who this person is, or what they did to you.. I just do not agree with your presentation and the way you conduct yourself.

Doom porn as a business, its just very unethical and that is just my opinion and I'll leave this thread alone now so you can continue.

Peace.
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AHHH... you can't be too careful when you get threats on your life like the one I got yesterday after this thread went up.

MARK JOHNSON - You will not survive
MARK JOHNSON - Consider this a warning March 23rd, 2012.
ME- we'll see
MARK JOHNSON - I don't think you understand You will not survive.
ME- humans have survived this before... its a roll of the dice
<--- always the optimist
MARK JOHNSON - This has nothing to do with humans surviving this before...
The information you provide to the public does not matter
You are wrong
Please note...Your actions have been chartered
We will not allow your information to surface
You have been warned.

HERE IS A LINK TO THE SCREEN SHOT I TOOK OF THE CONVO

[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

I think that's reason enough to have some concern.
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Apparently you are very good at making Headlines say exactly what you desire.
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I have never heard a more obvious and blatant attempt to try and twist things around LOL

THE HEADLINES SAY WHAT THEY SAY EINSTEIN
 Quoting: LUCUS


So here's a question for lucus, if space rocks are classified, why was I not silenced or prosecuted after showing, measuring, calculating, and publishing the orbit of the officially "potentially hazardous asteroid" 2005 YU55.

Furthermore, why does the article you mentioned specifically say that the classified data only applies to spy satellites that are looking down at earth, thus it does not apply to space rocks that are still incoming, but only to fireballs of rocks that have already hit the atmosphere?
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Another question for lucus, if those articles from the 1980's search for planet x, most popularly theorized by robert harrington, have any merit or relevance today, why did revising the mass of neptune and the other gas giants in the early 90's using voyager's telemetry data fix the apparent perturbations that lead to the search for planet x in the first place, and why does the planet x model of the solar system predict a position for uranus that is inconsistent with both the revised-mass model of the solar system as well as reality?
Thread: Robert Harrington's Planet X Does Not Exist

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I'm not very "up" on how this site works.

Is there any way to tell if a current AC is possibly someone from the past who posted here under a different name?
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Is everyone who doesnt agree with you out to get you Lucus? You really need to get some fresh air, I dont know who this person is, or what they did to you.. I just do not agree with your presentation and the way you conduct yourself.

Doom porn as a business, its just very unethical and that is just my opinion and I'll leave this thread alone now so you can continue.

Peace.
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Heee! Another BS thread. I love BS threads!

So, who is this doom clown Lucus?

Making bucks out of the ignorent part of the population huh?

Well done!

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Apparently you are very good at making Headlines say exactly what you desire.
 Quoting: TBar1984


I have never heard a more obvious and blatant attempt to try and twist things around LOL

THE HEADLINES SAY WHAT THEY SAY EINSTEIN
 Quoting: LUCUS


So here's a question for lucus, if space rocks are classified, why was I not silenced or prosecuted after showing, measuring, calculating, and publishing the orbit of the officially "potentially hazardous asteroid" 2005 YU55.

Furthermore, why does the article you mentioned specifically say that the classified data only applies to spy satellites that are looking down at earth, thus it does not apply to space rocks that are still incoming, but only to fireballs of rocks that have already hit the atmosphere?
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THE SUB HEADLINE OF THE STORY SAYS THIS

Scientists say research into the threat from space will be hampered.

AND THIS...

For 15 years, scientists have benefited from data gleaned by U.S. classified satellites of natural fireball events in Earth's atmosphere but no longer.

AND THIS...

"It's baffling to us why this would suddenly change," said one scientist familiar with the work. "It's unfortunate because there was this great synergy ... a very good cooperative arrangement. Systems were put into dual-use mode where a lot of science was getting done that couldn't be done any other way. It's a regrettable change in policy."

Scientists say not only will research into the threat from space be hampered, but public understanding of sometimes dramatic sky explosions will be diminished, perhaps leading to hype and fear of the unknown.


OBVIOUSLY, the US Gov does not have the resources to regulate millions of backyard astonomers... c'mon, come up with something better.

This applies to people with "REAL" credentials.
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Re: GLPVC Presents *LUCUS*(The Destroyer, Nibiru, Denver Airport, etc) PODCASTS UP pg 8
Awesome guest Rags!

I can't be here for the show, but I have some questions for Lucus, whom I admire.

I'm on the east coast of Florida, didn't he think some new land mass would be rising here?

I have always suspected that TPTB were promoting the Dec 21,2012 date, to lull people into ignoring an earlier date. Doesn't LUCUS suspect an earlier date, and if so, is it Dec 21, 2011?
Aside from the small band of Forteans scattered around the world, nobody seems to notice all aspects of this phantasmagoria.(John A. Keel)
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Making bucks out of the ignorent part of the population huh?

Well done!
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AHHH another example of someone who thinks they will win over support by calling people stupid or ignorant.

When will you goofballs learn that people will not listen to your shillery when you call them stupid and ignorant?

Do I have to teach you guys how to do your job too?
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Making bucks out of the ignorent part of the population huh?

Well done!
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AHHH another example of someone who thinks they will win over support by calling people stupid or ignorant.

When will you goofballs learn that people will not listen to your shillery when you call them stupid and ignorant?

Do I have to teach you guys how to do your job too?
 Quoting: LUCUS


Hee Lucus!
Well, that depends...how much do you charge me for that?
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Making bucks out of the ignorent part of the population huh?

Well done!
 Quoting: Anoying Orange


AHHH another example of someone who thinks they will win over support by calling people stupid or ignorant.

When will you goofballs learn that people will not listen to your shillery when you call them stupid and ignorant?

Do I have to teach you guys how to do your job too?
 Quoting: LUCUS


Hee Lucus!
Well, that depends...how much do you charge me for that?
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WELL... being that EVERYTHING I HAVE DONE I HAVE OFFERED FOR FREE

The Ultimate Con
The Destroyer Star and the Future of Mankind
The Return of the Great Dragon

I guess I could take on a pro bono case here too.
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Re: GLPVC Presents *LUCUS*(The Destroyer, Nibiru, Denver Airport, etc) PODCASTS UP pg 8
Amusingly, your own quote mining lucus shows that the article is about fireballs, rocks already hitting the atmosphere, not rocks that are still out there and incoming. Why is my data on YU55 not silenced if it's classified? Why doesn't the government even try to come after me the way they do with julian? I don't have my own server, it's out there on youtube, easily taken down. The data agrees with orbital data published publicly by jpl, it's not classified at all.
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Scientists say not only will research into the threat from space be hampered, but public understanding of sometimes dramatic sky explosions will be diminished, perhaps leading to hype and fear of the unknown.

AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT HAS HAPPENED!!!

Airbursts everywhere and people are freaked out. You see the stories all the time, loud explosion heard in the sky, ground rumbles, residents concerned and baffled.

HE WAS SO RIGHT
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Amusingly, your own quote mining lucus shows that the article is about fireballs, rocks already hitting the atmosphere, not rocks that are still out there and incoming. Why is my data on YU55 not silenced if it's classified? Why doesn't the government even try to come after me the way they do with julian? I don't have my own server, it's out there on youtube, easily taken down. The data agrees with orbital data published publicly by jpl, it's not classified at all.
 Quoting: Astromut


Well OBVIOUSLY if they know something is not going to hit there is no reason to classify it. C'mon, you're talking apples and oranges here.

How about this...

HOW COME AN ASTEROID HIT COLOMBIA WITH NO WARNING?!?! And left a 300 foot crater.

How come that was buried in Western media?

YOU WOULD THINK that this would be an EXCELLENT CHANCE for scientists to study the crater and the effects. YOU WOULD THINK that this would be TOP STORY ON EVERY MAJOR NEWS SITE.

But it was not.

And before you say it never happened... here is PROOF.





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