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Well, got this seconds ago via Twitter from Dutchsince




[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]


Download PDF here:
[link to arxiv.org]


"Dutchsince:"

They explain in this paper from Cornell University that THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN why the moon is showing an “accelerating phenomenon”.

They do calculations based upon the location of “X” .. X being the distant point where the supposed “planet x / nemesis / tyche” is located.

This paper acknowledges two things..

ReadMore:
[link to sincedutch.wordpress.com]
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Thread: *** Moon orbit is wrong according to Cornell University *** PIN

Decent sized thread about this from a few months back.

Thread: Cornell University: Moon Orbit Wrong

and another one...

:)

Peace and love guys.
 Quoting: Sol1d1nt3l


Yes, it's another case of this;



Again, that paper refers to a Known anomaly of 6 Millimeters a YEAR. It can be seen on page 22 here: [link to astrometric.sai.msu.ru]

At 6 Millimeters a Year, it will be a very long time before the Eclipses forecast decades ago will suffer any degradation.
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the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
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Moving the entire mass of the Moon 6mm a year is A LOT of energy.

F = M x A

MASS: 7.36 x 10^22 kilograms
ACCELERATION: 0.006 mm/year
0.00000000019012 meter/sec

F = 13,992,832,000,000 newton

Almost 14 Trillion Newtons of Force on the Moon. Which is certainly effecting the Earth as well.

It MAY seem like nothing until you look at the scope of things.
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"The asteroid named 2005 YU55 is doing a fly-by of the earth/moon system. On November 8, 2011 at 23:38 UT it will be at its closest approach to earth. I warn humanity that this asteroid is a harbinger of change. Do not believe that it will not make vibrations and waves throughout the universe. It can trigger off earth movements, despite what the scientists say. These energies will create universal friction. Watch for potential to trigger events over the next two to three months. This is not fear mongering. This is being in the know. "- Mother Hehp The saoshyant

[link to www.saoshyant.org]

Also, the blue planet spotted by the sun in a NASA video - some are saying THIS is Nibiru (vid a few minutes into the video):

[link to www.youtube.com]

(someone embed this video please for me)

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Very very interesting , the moon has shifted and they can't say why but hypothesize another planet being introduced into the equation . Then the problem is the mass of the planet to perturb the moon to that degree seems unrealistic.

Just add this to all the other space anomalies over the last few decades , for example the outer planets being pulled on from their southern galactic plain tugging them out of their natural orbits. Various pictures of a second sun , some pictures from the south pole showing another planet .

Something is defiantly up that the powers that be are onto. Maybe the ancients had it correct with this planet x ,Niberu or whatever they called it.
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FFS

Ditchweed sez so...

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Thread: *** Moon orbit is wrong according to Cornell University *** PIN

Decent sized thread about this from a few months back.

Thread: Cornell University: Moon Orbit Wrong

and another one...

:)

Peace and love guys.
 Quoting: Sol1d1nt3l


Yes, it's another case of this;



Again, that paper refers to a Known anomaly of 6 Millimeters a YEAR. It can be seen on page 22 here: [link to astrometric.sai.msu.ru]

At 6 Millimeters a Year, it will be a very long time before the Eclipses forecast decades ago will suffer any degradation.
 Quoting: TBar1984


the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5432156


Moving the entire mass of the Moon 6mm a year is A LOT of energy.

F = M x A

MASS: 7.36 x 10^22 kilograms
ACCELERATION: 0.006 mm/year
0.00000000019012 meter/sec

F = 13,992,832,000,000 newton

Almost 14 Trillion Newtons of Force on the Moon. Which is certainly effecting the Earth as well.

It MAY seem like nothing until you look at the scope of things.
 Quoting: Voltaic Manifesti

Unfortunately, we were unable to measure the Moon distance that accurately before the advent of Lunar Laser Range Finding. Therefore, we have no evidence that this 6 mm per year error in math wasn't present in the past. What's more interesting is that fact that the Moon is moving away from the Earth at a much greater pace than the 6 mm per year math problem. From here [link to www.space.com] "It's currently drifting away about 1.5 inches (3.74 centimeters) every year..."

You would think the larger movement would attract more attention, but alas, the article about the movement away from Earth doesn't mention Planet-X. Which leads us back to the attention seeking accusation...
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Astromut doesn't have a chance debunking this, or does he? LOL!
Nice post OP.
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Already did, as far as it applying to anything anyone claims to be seeing...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Such a difference is measured in centimeters and is too small to detect by eye or even telescope. The original authors who reported the finding hypothesized that it is simply due to the internal dynamics of the moon which are not yet fully capable of being modeled. The moon still has some occasional out-gassing and moon quakes, but we do not have the kind of in depth information of its interior the way we do with our own planet.
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There was a 80 page PDF document someone created explaining the nibiru stuff in great detail... Can someone post a link for that one??
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There was a 80 page PDF document someone created explaining the nibiru stuff in great detail... Can someone post a link for that one??
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You mean the one that falsely claimed Saturn had rotated 90 degrees?
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There was a 80 page PDF document someone created explaining the nibiru stuff in great detail... Can someone post a link for that one??
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You mean the one that falsely claimed Saturn had rotated 90 degrees?
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Yes..that's the one.. even though Saturn thing might be wrong, I sort of think he was onto something...
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Astromut doesn't have a chance debunking this, or does he? LOL!
Nice post OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497567


Already did, as far as it applying to anything anyone claims to be seeing...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Such a difference is measured in centimeters and is too small to detect by eye or even telescope. The original authors who reported the finding hypothesized that it is simply due to the internal dynamics of the moon which are not yet fully capable of being modeled. The moon still has some occasional out-gassing and moon quakes, but we do not have the kind of in depth information of its interior the way we do with our own planet.
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"The original authors who reported the finding hypothesized that it is simply due to the internal dynamics of the moon which are not yet fully capable of being modeled."

reference please.
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3600 years is spot on...
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Dutchsince = Chicken Little. NUFF SAID.
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...


Yes, it's another case of this;



Again, that paper refers to a Known anomaly of 6 Millimeters a YEAR. It can be seen on page 22 here: [link to astrometric.sai.msu.ru]

At 6 Millimeters a Year, it will be a very long time before the Eclipses forecast decades ago will suffer any degradation.
 Quoting: TBar1984


the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5432156


Moving the entire mass of the Moon 6mm a year is A LOT of energy.

F = M x A

MASS: 7.36 x 10^22 kilograms
ACCELERATION: 0.006 mm/year
0.00000000019012 meter/sec

F = 13,992,832,000,000 newton

Almost 14 Trillion Newtons of Force on the Moon. Which is certainly effecting the Earth as well.

It MAY seem like nothing until you look at the scope of things.
 Quoting: Voltaic Manifesti

Unfortunately, we were unable to measure the Moon distance that accurately before the advent of Lunar Laser Range Finding. Therefore, we have no evidence that this 6 mm per year error in math wasn't present in the past. What's more interesting is that fact that the Moon is moving away from the Earth at a much greater pace than the 6 mm per year math
problem. From here [link to www.space.com] "It's currently drifting away about 1.5 inches (3.74 centimeters) every year..."

You would think the larger movement would attract more attention, but alas, the article about the movement away from Earth doesn't mention Planet-X. Which leads us back to the attention seeking accusation...
 Quoting: TBar1984


The answer is probably obvious but I have to assume that this added gravitational pull would be a culprit in the increase in solar activity as well as earthquake activity, volcanic activity and the larger tides I have witnessed along the coastline in my area of the northeast.
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Well, got this seconds ago via Twitter from Dutchsince




[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]


Download PDF here:
[link to arxiv.org]


"Dutchsince:"

They explain in this paper from Cornell University that THEY CANNOT EXPLAIN why the moon is showing an “accelerating phenomenon”.

They do calculations based upon the location of “X” .. X being the distant point where the supposed “planet x / nemesis / tyche” is located.

This paper acknowledges two things..

ReadMore:
[link to sincedutch.wordpress.com]
 Quoting: IwantToBelieve76


Where have you guys been? I read this Cornell paper back in mid August
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the point for me is they use the name planet x, explain that away. please.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5432156


Moving the entire mass of the Moon 6mm a year is A LOT of energy.

F = M x A

MASS: 7.36 x 10^22 kilograms
ACCELERATION: 0.006 mm/year
0.00000000019012 meter/sec

F = 13,992,832,000,000 newton

Almost 14 Trillion Newtons of Force on the Moon. Which is certainly effecting the Earth as well.

It MAY seem like nothing until you look at the scope of things.
 Quoting: Voltaic Manifesti

Unfortunately, we were unable to measure the Moon distance that accurately before the advent of Lunar Laser Range Finding. Therefore, we have no evidence that this 6 mm per year error in math wasn't present in the past. What's more interesting is that fact that the Moon is moving away from the Earth at a much greater pace than the 6 mm per year math
problem. From here [link to www.space.com] "It's currently drifting away about 1.5 inches (3.74 centimeters) every year..."

You would think the larger movement would attract more attention, but alas, the article about the movement away from Earth doesn't mention Planet-X. Which leads us back to the attention seeking accusation...
 Quoting: TBar1984


The answer is probably obvious but I have to assume that this added gravitational pull would be a culprit in the increase in solar activity as well as earthquake activity, volcanic activity and the larger tides I have witnessed along the coastline in my area of the northeast.
 Quoting: whateva76


Except for that little fact that there is not any evidence for the existence of 'Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis'. We have found much smaller objects out to almost 100 AU. Anything larger would have been found long ago, probably around the time Pluto was discovered. Anything far enough away to escape visual detection would result in perturbations of the outer planets, the recent article on Uranus doesn't mention any perturbations [link to www.skymania.com]
None of the teams of astronomers searching the Kuiper belt have found anything larger than a pluto twin [link to www.keckobservatory.org]
Even the search for Tyche is turning up empty [link to www.ucs.louisiana.edu]

The search for Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis isn't turning up anything, just more theory.
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the problem here is that 1. dutchsinse should never been mentioned because he did NOT write this abstract. he has absolutely nothing to do with it. zero.
so what ducth says or does not say about this does not effect the ACTUAL CONTENTS of the abstract.

if you would take the time to download the pdf and read and see the references there is plenty there to reference. dutch not being one of them.
so move on from that, it's taking away from the issue and derailing.

and 2. no one is saying that planet x is interfering with the orbit of the moon. and really it doesn't matter how LITTLE or how MUCH, the question here is WHY.
and it is INTERESTING, to say the least, the they even meantion planet x/nemesis/tyche AT ALL, in a scientific paper of this caliber. not to mention why are the putting all those names together like they are interchangable?


that is all.
it is interesting that a scientific abstract actually CONSIDERED "planet x"
that , in and of itself, is interesting.
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There was a 80 page PDF document someone created explaining the nibiru stuff in great detail... Can someone post a link for that one??
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You mean the one that falsely claimed Saturn had rotated 90 degrees?
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Yes, I remember that, guy who did not have equatorial mount... didn't understand field rotation. =)
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Moving the entire mass of the Moon 6mm a year is A LOT of energy.

F = M x A

MASS: 7.36 x 10^22 kilograms
ACCELERATION: 0.006 mm/year
0.00000000019012 meter/sec

F = 13,992,832,000,000 newton

Almost 14 Trillion Newtons of Force on the Moon. Which is certainly effecting the Earth as well.

It MAY seem like nothing until you look at the scope of things.
 Quoting: Voltaic Manifesti

Unfortunately, we were unable to measure the Moon distance that accurately before the advent of Lunar Laser Range Finding. Therefore, we have no evidence that this 6 mm per year error in math wasn't present in the past. What's more interesting is that fact that the Moon is moving away from the Earth at a much greater pace than the 6 mm per year math
problem. From here [link to www.space.com] "It's currently drifting away about 1.5 inches (3.74 centimeters) every year..."

You would think the larger movement would attract more attention, but alas, the article about the movement away from Earth doesn't mention Planet-X. Which leads us back to the attention seeking accusation...
 Quoting: TBar1984


The answer is probably obvious but I have to assume that this added gravitational pull would be a culprit in the increase in solar activity as well as earthquake activity, volcanic activity and the larger tides I have witnessed along the coastline in my area of the northeast.
 Quoting: whateva76


Except for that little fact that there is not any evidence for the existence of 'Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis'. We have found much smaller objects out to almost 100 AU. Anything larger would have been found long ago, probably around the time Pluto was discovered. Anything far enough away to escape visual detection would result in perturbations of the outer planets, the recent article on Uranus doesn't mention any perturbations [link to www.skymania.com]
None of the teams of astronomers searching the Kuiper belt have found anything larger than a pluto twin [link to www.keckobservatory.org]
Even the search for Tyche is turning up empty [link to www.ucs.louisiana.edu]

The search for Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis isn't turning up anything, just more theory.
 Quoting: TBar1984


"just more theory"
i have a bone to pick with this JUST more theory thing.
excuse me by science IS theory. don't be dismissive of it by saying "just more"
thank goodness we DO have more theory.
what is the theory of realitivity? a fact? no it's a theory.
etc etc etc
that is what science is SUPPOSED to do is theorize and come up with the best explanations they can theorize for far, but NOTHING is set in stone. it's ALL theory.
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5* OP, Great find...

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im with this guy ^^
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Ummm

Why is it ALWAYS and ONLY

Cornell University that makes these claims?
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Ummm

Why is it ALWAYS and ONLY

Cornell University that makes these claims?
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Because they are having an identity crisis?
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Ummm

Why is it ALWAYS and ONLY

Cornell University that makes these claims?
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Because they are having an identity crisis?
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I mean the moons cordinates are pretty basic

Ametures and universities all over the world could easily prove the moon is out of place

But they haven't?

I agreed with Cornell about the Elenin anomalies, because they never tried to claim it was the doomsday comet or anything, they just lined out the dates and entertained the idea.

But to make such a claim... I mean.. who is running their astronomy department???
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Dutchsince = Chicken Little. NUFF SAID.
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You = fucktard
Have a great day!
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Astromut doesn't have a chance debunking this, or does he? LOL!
Nice post OP.
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He'll probably attribute it to that hilarious post about solar pannels decaying the sun at a faster rate LOL
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...

Unfortunately, we were unable to measure the Moon distance that accurately before the advent of Lunar Laser Range Finding. Therefore, we have no evidence that this 6 mm per year error in math wasn't present in the past. What's more interesting is that fact that the Moon is moving away from the Earth at a much greater pace than the 6 mm per year math
problem. From here [link to www.space.com] "It's currently drifting away about 1.5 inches (3.74 centimeters) every year..."

You would think the larger movement would attract more attention, but alas, the article about the movement away from Earth doesn't mention Planet-X. Which leads us back to the attention seeking accusation...
 Quoting: TBar1984


The answer is probably obvious but I have to assume that this added gravitational pull would be a culprit in the increase in solar activity as well as earthquake activity, volcanic activity and the larger tides I have witnessed along the coastline in my area of the northeast.
 Quoting: whateva76


Except for that little fact that there is not any evidence for the existence of 'Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis'. We have found much smaller objects out to almost 100 AU. Anything larger would have been found long ago, probably around the time Pluto was discovered. Anything far enough away to escape visual detection would result in perturbations of the outer planets, the recent article on Uranus doesn't mention any perturbations [link to www.skymania.com]
None of the teams of astronomers searching the Kuiper belt have found anything larger than a pluto twin [link to www.keckobservatory.org]
Even the search for Tyche is turning up empty [link to www.ucs.louisiana.edu]

The search for Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis isn't turning up anything, just more theory.
 Quoting: TBar1984


"just more theory"
i have a bone to pick with this JUST more theory thing.
excuse me by science IS theory. don't be dismissive of it by saying "just more"
thank goodness we DO have more theory.
what is the theory of realitivity? a fact? no it's a theory.
etc etc etc
that is what science is SUPPOSED to do is theorize and come up with the best explanations they can theorize for far, but NOTHING is set in stone. it's ALL theory.
 Quoting: Pink Cat with a Telephone Hat

It stops being theory when it is discovered in a few telescopes. Neptune is not theory, neither is Eris. The same cannot be said of Planet X / Tyche / Nemesis. I thought we were talking about theorized Planets here, not general science. There is a difference, nice diversion though.
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Astromut doesn't have a chance debunking this, or does he? LOL!
Nice post OP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 497567


Already did, as far as it applying to anything anyone claims to be seeing...
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
Such a difference is measured in centimeters and is too small to detect by eye or even telescope. The original authors who reported the finding hypothesized that it is simply due to the internal dynamics of the moon which are not yet fully capable of being modeled. The moon still has some occasional out-gassing and moon quakes, but we do not have the kind of in depth information of its interior the way we do with our own planet.
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"The original authors who reported the finding hypothesized that it is simply due to the internal dynamics of the moon which are not yet fully capable of being modeled."

reference please.
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[link to cddis.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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