Please write your story of how you were saved?

I am a born christian, a regular church attendee, taught at an early age by my parents about God, Jesus and the bible. I was a half an half christian....committing sin, asking God for forgiveness and going back to sin again. When I was young, I lived a carefree life not bothering about the consequences of my actions. Did not do anything that was really serious that would affect my health (drugs, drinking, smoking etc)...but I was into sin that affected the mind....day dreaming a lot bout the opposite sex, being in a relationship that I knew was not pleasing to God. I was struggling with this for years and I felt myself collapsing into this vicious cycle of sin, asking for forgiveness and committing the same sin again. I knew I had to come out of a toxic relationship but I did not know....I cried out to God in prayer and said help me...I don't want to continue living like this. I felt like a failure because I could not seem to turn over a new leaf and I really did not know if I could turn to God again and ask Him to help me, since I had let him down a million times by going back to sin. I have this habit of reading a daily verse that comes in a calendar and then would read the entire chapter of that verse. So on a day when I had reached the end of my rope and felt completely and utterly helpless, I cried out to God asking one more time will you help me come out of this bad relationship? Do you still love me a sinner that I am? And that day's bible reading had this from Isaiah 54

[4] Fear not; for thou shalt not be ashamed: neither be thou confounded; for thou shalt not be put to shame: for thou shalt forget the shame of thy youth, and shalt not remember the reproach of thy widowhood any more.
[5] For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.
[6] For the LORD hath called thee as a woman forsaken and grieved in spirit, and a wife of youth, when thou wast refused, saith thy God.
[7] For a small moment have I forsaken thee; but with great mercies will I gather thee.
[8] In a little wrath I hid my face from thee for a moment; but with everlasting kindness will I have mercy on thee, saith the LORD thy Redeemer.
[9] For this is as the waters of Noah unto me: for as I have sworn that the waters of Noah should no more go over the earth; so have I sworn that I would not be wroth with thee, nor rebuke thee.
[10] For the mountains shall depart, and the hills be removed; but my kindness shall not depart from thee, neither shall the covenant of my peace be removed, saith the LORD that hath mercy on thee.
[11] O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.

I burst into tears because I was overwhelmed with the love that God would show me instead of scolding me for the sins I committed. I resolved to leave the relationship I was in and I was able to do it without causing the other party a lot of grief. From then on you would think I was super committed to God...but no...I have gone through ups and downs...have gone astray again...but this one thing I know from the bottom of my heart...that God loves me...that I need to pick myself up again and commit to living a life according to His will. I have come a long way...but I still struggle sometimes...this verse keeps me going
[4] For to him that is joined to all the living there is hope: for a living dog is better than a dead lion. - Ecclesiastes 9:4

I consider myself a living dog...as long as there is life in my body I have hope...hope that I can pick myself up by the grace and love that Jesus always extends to me.

OP a good starting point is to read the bible...you could do what I do everyday....read the word for today...and whichever verse appears I read that verses's chapter and many a times God has spoken to me through His word...corrected me, shown His mercy towards me, loved me, helped me to make decisions in my life.

For eg. a few weeks back we had placed an offer on a house and there were multiple offers because it was a great price.
The next day morning when reading the bible, the chapter for the day was Zechariah and here is the verse
[8] Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
[9] The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this house; his hands shall also finish it; and thou shalt know that the LORD of hosts hath sent me unto you. - Zechariah 4:8,9

I told my spouse that we are getting the house and yes we did get the house.
I wish you the best to come out of your depression, seek God everyday...nothing is too difficult a problem when you take it to the creator of this world and who knows the beginning and the end of all things. So pick yourself up and look towards God.

The site that I go to everyday for the word for the day is this [link to www.ucb.co.uk]

I get confused on whose voice I feel, if they are mine or his

To All, Death, what seems to be unfair is just your finite understanding of the infinite.The one known to you as Jesus told us to seek the truth and the truth will set you free,by seeking you earn salvation.Here are some truths I have found by my seeking. Will which is the ability to choose to do a thing is the most important force in the Universe of Universes.When The First Source and center,The Father,The Thought and The Second Source and center,The Son,The Word have an individual collaboration and actualization of WILL,There Freewill,a co-creative creation comes into being.Will alone creates Spirit Sons, Paradise Creator Sons of the order of Michael,our Local Universe Son is Michael of Nebadon who Incarnated as Esu Immanuel known to most as Jesus.In order allow us to use our soul/mind (HUE MAN =LIGHT MAN)being to overcome the adversary,which is our ego entity of material self-hood,and achieve a Spiritual birthing without the benefit of physical evidence.This being able to have the wholehearted faith and trust of "a little child"in your unseen Spiritual Father.Until AT ONE MENT of Will of the ascending HUE MAN the soul is a seed that needs to be planted in the soil of desire to know your Heavenly Father,when the individual's soul/mind overcomes ego of self and attains AT ONE MENT of WILL and becomes one with the indwelling Father Fragment that being realizes its IMMORTALITY.Esu Immanuel(JESUS) left nothing behind of Himself to allow us the privilege of becoming "AGONDONTERS"( ones who can attain without proof of seeing),to be an agondonter is a most cherished and wonderful achievement!Esu Immanul(JESUS)left nothing behind (no writings,no art,no relic of any kind)for another reason,He did not want there to be anything left to start a religion or cult around His Person rather than His teachings. Saul of Tarsus A.K.A. Paul a pharisee composed the new testament ( hijacking the early followers of Esu's teachings)and turned the movement right back into the blood cult of the HEBREW RABBIS using the MURDERED Esu Immanuel(JESUS)as the SACRIFICE! I do however now have proof!I know by personal experience that paragraph 4 on page 1229 of "THE URANTIA BOOK" is the absolute, undeniable TRUTH and if that is TRUTH then the whole book is the TRUTH! Here is what I experienced. On June 28,1984 while working in my small plant nursery pulling weeds,I was attacked by a swarm of very tiny mosquitoes. They were the size of gnats and did not cause itchy bites,so I kept working.Went to bed and woke up the next morning so sick I could not move I was immobilized.I did not leave my bed for seven days and nights,did not eat or drink or go to toilet.Fever so bad covers on one minute off the next for seven days.Then on July 5, 1984 a few minutes before midnight I mustered up enough strength to get to the bathroom and take my temperature.I saw myself in mirror for first time in a week.I looked like DEATH WARMED OVER!My temperature was 104.5,I looked in the mirror then I looked at the thermometer then back in the mirror and then realized I was close to death.I said to myself well I guess this is it I am heading into the UNKNOWN!I laughed at the face of death!I got back into bed and thought what if my next breath is my last.It was, I had this thought,this prayer if you will that It is my WILL that THY WILL be done MY FATHER(a positive affirmation of WILL)^This is the "AT ONE MENT OF WILL wholehearted faith and trust in the unseen,the trust of a little child. At this moment time stood still,I turned to my right and said to my wife Laurie I am dieing I love you good bye.I then turned to my left and saw my clock tick to midnight,at this moment of non-time I felt myself vacate my body,it started at the tips of my toes and whooshed up my body when it reached my heart and brain I departed through the top of my head. Now all matter has faded away and I find myself as a little tiny light all alone in the darkness until I saw coming up from my right and from what seemed to be BELOW another light and it approached me and came to my side. I looked up and I saw another light a much much more brilliant and powerful light being on the other side of the portal,I knew that was my CREATOR FATHER and as I tried to reach for His helping hand the other being of light put up this barrier between us it was everything I ever did that hurt someone my sins if you will.I looked and saw my CREATOR FATHER still reaching for me even with all the error and s.i.n.(stuck in negativity)I committed.I turned to the being who came up from below and said be gone I go with my Heavenly Father and with that the EVIL PRINCE OF DARKNESS departed back to the pit of DARKNESS he left screaming in defeat ! I then took part in a seven hour debate with my CREATOR over going directly to heaven with Him. He said what of your wife and children,I said they will be all right because they have You.He said what of your business and all your projects and art,I said they mean nothing now that I am in your presents.Then My CREATOR said because you were able to have the faith and trust of a little child and achieve AT ONE MENT OF WILL and give birth to your seed soul I want you to go back into the Firmament back to the density of matter and tell them ALL,so I had to relent.It was His plan that I come back and tell you all!I awoke with my head still looking at the clock as it turned to seven. The Creator Son,Paradise Son The MICHAEL OF NEBADON and His bestowal personification in incarnation ESU IMMANUEL are REAL and always here for all who so choose of your own FREEWILL!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fear is the opposite of Faith HAVE NO FEAR LEARN THE TRUTH BY SEEKING AND HELP YOUR FELLOWS BY PASSING IT ON FREELY [link to www.urantia.org] THE BODY NEITHER LIVES NOR DIES THE SOUL/MIND HUE MAN LIGHT MAN LIVES AND IS IMMORTAL,THE LIGHT BODY OF THE DENSITY SIMULATES LIFE!!! the white rose

Hello

I was raised in the church as some say. I am now 46. I was very inquisitive of all the stories but needed some proof to believe. When I played with the Ouija board, I saw demons at night. Therefore, if there are demons there are angels. This happened in my 20s. This at least gave me the insight that there is another world out there. I was still part of the material world until this year.

The Lord has always been around protecting me and keeping me from harm through those times. He has a purpose that I will tend to in the coming years. When I say protected me, I really mean it. I was drunk driving for many a year in my 20s, made it home all the time but sometimes don't remember where the car is or where I was at. I put a gun up to my head and pulled the trigger. The gun was a friend of mines who said that he usually keeps it loaded and it wasn't that time. i fell asleep at the wheel driving and was alerted in some remarkable fashion. i disarmed a gunman that was 15 ft away from me, etc.

Sometimes the journey is worth the trip. I was directed to look at some things which turned me into His direction. Then 1 day in August of this year, I believe, I asked Him to save me and forgive me of my sins. Immediately I felt His love with me and from that time on, I have received visions/visitations that dcomfort me and direct me on my path.

All you have to do is be sincere and call on Jesus name to wash your sins away.

God Bless

Thank you I will say these know too!

Spirituality saved me, not religion or Jesus. It started 9 years ago with the death of a close family member.

I want to say thank you to you for not saying what I know you beleive in this thread!

Sorry I did not go that way.
It was all about the God in my heart for me.
He gave me the strength to fight this war.

Each person is different and needs to look inside to find their own personal way. There is no true path, just a lot of beaten tracks.

How I was saved..and pray who amI to say wether I am saved or not.._surely only God can determine that_

You need Yourself, much more than a religious concept > Jesus(~).

Proof:

We are created by Our Creator aka God;
We are not created by religion.

We are born with Wisdom;
We are not born with a religious 'holy' book with instructions how to live Our Life.

When we use Our Wisdom, we establish Our relationship with Our Creator and eliminate religion from Our Life.

Our Creator gave us everything we need to save Ourselves.

it was the time i could buy three candy bars for .83...

WOW!

The fact that you are even asking how to be saved, is a good indication that the Father has been tugging at your heart strings.

" If you confess with you mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you shall be saved."

Pray this prayer out loud:

Heavenly Father, in Jesus' name I repent of my sins and open my heart to let Jesus come inside of me.
Jesus, You are my Lord and Savior. I believe you died for my sins and you were raised from the dead.
Fill me with your Holy Spirit. Thank You Father for saving me in Jesus' name. Amen.

Once you pray this prayer, you will remember this day always. Your spirit inside of you that was sleeping, has now been awoken! The angels are rejoicing!

But now let me tell you what will happen next.

Thoughts will come that say "No, this is not possible! It is too easy!"

This is a lie. We receive salvation by faith.

You believe you receive when you asked, and believe me, the Father delights in you asking.

The bible was written by man and it has some good within it. But for the most part narrow minded morons have twisted it to the point where i think the line of "good" and "evil" is definitly blured. I don't believe in good or evil and i would not put faith in something that's obviously bullshit. "faith" worshiping blindly... Keeping your eyes shut while they keep you dumb and steal from you. Whatever you believe should come purely from your heart and not what others have told you or what you read in a book. You can read and learn without believing everything you read. Believe in yourself and your ability to do what feels right. Don't be afraid of death or where you will go because you will have to face that one day soo why not live now and be happy. Nothing feels better than feeling in control of yourself and where your life is going.

Feb. 2009 my wife took me to the ER with SVT (Subventricular Tachycardia). My heart was beating at 180 BPM while at rest.

By the time we got to the hospital, it had slowed down so I suggested we leave and go get breakfast; she wouldn't hear of it. Long story short, they admitted me, did some tests then opened me up 2 days later for bypass surgery. The following day they took me into surgery again because I was losing blood through my chest tubes. They didn't find anything wrong.

Everything was cool for 8 months then suddenly I had a panic attack, out of the blue. I think with the surgery, a failed business, starting a new job, and other financial issues, my "tough skin" finally gave out. My central nervous system was in hyper-sensitive mode. I had anxiety attacks and panic attacks that were the worst terror/horror you would want to experience. I was losing it. I thought I was losing my mind.

I took a day off work because I didn't sleep all night due to a vibrating body. The next day I called a friend who happened to be a chiropractor, and asked him if he knew of any good shrinks that dealt with my condition. He said he wanted to stop by. I thought he was going to bring his adjustment table but instead, he brought his bible. I was saved that day and the relief I felt was overwhelming.

It was still a slow recovery but that day was the beginning. I still go to church every Sunday and was playing guitar in the worship band for a while. I took bible study, became a member of my church and started training for the Stephen Ministry.

To all of you atheists out there, let me clarify, none of this means I'm a perfect Christian so save your "gotcha" bullshit for somebody else. Thank you.

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Meaning of the Death on the Cross

(2016.6) 188:4.1 Although Jesus did not die this death on the cross to atone for the racial guilt of mortal man nor to provide some sort of effective approach to an otherwise offended and unforgiving God; even though the Son of Man did not offer himself as a sacrifice to appease the wrath of God and to open the way for sinful man to obtain salvation; notwithstanding that these ideas of atonement and propitiation are erroneous, nonetheless, there are significances attached to this death of Jesus on the cross which should not be overlooked. It is a fact that Urantia has become known among other neighboring inhabited planets as the “World of the Cross.”

(2016.7) 188:4.2 Jesus desired to live a full mortal life in the flesh on Urantia. Death is, ordinarily, a part of life. Death is the last act in the mortal drama. In your well-meant efforts to escape the superstitious errors of the false interpretation of the meaning of the death on the cross, you should be careful not to make the great mistake of failing to perceive the true significance and the genuine import of the Master’s death.

(2016.8) 188:4.3 Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil-doing of his ancestors. Neither was the Master’s death on the cross a sacrifice which consisted in an effort to pay God a debt which the race of mankind had come to owe him. *

(2016.9) 188:4.4 Before Jesus lived on earth, you might possibly have been justified in believing in such a God, but not since the Master lived and died among your fellow mortals. Moses taught the dignity and justice of a Creator God; but Jesus portrayed the love and mercy of a heavenly Father.

(2016.10) 188:4.5 The animal nature — the tendency toward evil-doing — may be hereditary, but sin is not transmitted from parent to child. Sin is the act of conscious and deliberate rebellion against the Father’s will and the Sons’ laws by an individual will creature. *

(2017.1) 188:4.6 Jesus lived and died for a whole universe, not just for the races of this one world. While the mortals of the realms had salvation even before Jesus lived and died on Urantia, it is nevertheless a fact that his bestowal on this world greatly illuminated the way of salvation; his death did much to make forever plain the certainty of mortal survival after death in the flesh.

(2017.2) 188:4.7 Though it is hardly proper to speak of Jesus as a sacrificer, a ransomer, or a redeemer, it is wholly correct to refer to him as a savior. He forever made the way of salvation (survival) more clear and certain; he did better and more surely show the way of salvation for all the mortals of all the worlds of the universe of Nebadon.

(2017.3) 188:4.8 When once you grasp the idea of God as a true and loving Father, the only concept which Jesus ever taught, you must forthwith, in all consistency, utterly abandon all those primitive notions about God as an offended monarch, a stern and all-powerful ruler whose chief delight is to detect his subjects in wrongdoing and to see that they are adequately punished, unless some being almost equal to himself should volunteer to suffer for them, to die as a substitute and in their stead. The whole idea of ransom and atonement is incompatible with the concept of God as it was taught and exemplified by Jesus of Nazareth. The infinite love of God is not secondary to anything in the divine nature.

(2017.4) 188:4.9 All this concept of atonement and sacrificial salvation is rooted and grounded in selfishness. Jesus taught that service to one’s fellows is the highest concept of the brotherhood of spirit believers. Salvation should be taken for granted by those who believe in the fatherhood of God. The believer’s chief concern should not be the selfish desire for personal salvation but rather the unselfish urge to love and, therefore, serve one’s fellows even as Jesus loved and served mortal men.

(2017.5) 188:4.10 Neither do genuine believers trouble themselves so much about the future punishment of sin. The real believer is only concerned about present separation from God. True, wise fathers may chasten their sons, but they do all this in love and for corrective purposes. They do not punish in anger, neither do they chastise in retribution.

(2017.6) 188:4.11 Even if God were the stern and legal monarch of a universe in which justice ruled supreme, he certainly would not be satisfied with the childish scheme of substituting an innocent sufferer for a guilty offender.

(2017.7) 188:4.12 The great thing about the death of Jesus, as it is related to the enrichment of human experience and the enlargement of the way of salvation, is not the fact of his death but rather the superb manner and the matchless spirit in which he met death.

(2017.8) 188:4.13 This entire idea of the ransom of the atonement places salvation upon a plane of unreality; such a concept is purely philosophic. Human salvation is real; it is based on two realities which may be grasped by the creature’s faith and thereby become incorporated into individual human experience: the fact of the fatherhood of God and its correlated truth, the brotherhood of man. It is true, after all, that you are to be “forgiven your debts, even as you forgive your debtors.”
the white rose

I had prayed to be saved quite a few times in my life but nothing was ever different. Then, long story short, I was accused of something I did not do and was arrested, put in jail. at first I wasn't worried because I figured Id straighten it out, since I was not guilty genuinely. but when I was arraigned, there were two guys ahead of me who robbed a bank and shot at the police and their bail was lower than mine. Then I knew I was in trouble. I was so mad and upset, I told God, send me the power of the holy spirit. I thought I was asking God to slap everyone doing this to me. Instead the holy spirit entered me and I was changed. I knew something was different because I had a sudden burning urge to listen to church t.v., get a bible, go to church. I never had before. Life was still tough after that. I could't prove I had no involvment in what I was accused of and had to plead no contest. Its still on my record. the bible says something to the effect that satan will give you a rough time when you get saved, and boy have I had it rough. Its still rough. God has spoken to me promising me lots of good stuff Im still waiting for. psalms says I will give you songs of victory. I hear music all the time, one time audibly. anyways, for me, I was praying hard when I asked for the holy spirit and that seemd to do it. Try it like that, you'll know when you get it, you just know.

Lessons from the Cross

(2017.9) 188:5.1 The cross of Jesus portrays the full measure of the supreme devotion of the true shepherd for even the unworthy members of his flock. It forever places all relations between God and man upon the family basis. God is the Father; man is his son. Love, the love of a father for his son, becomes the central truth in the universe relations of Creator and creature — not the justice of a king which seeks satisfaction in the sufferings and punishment of the evil-doing subject.

(2018.1) 188:5.2 The cross forever shows that the attitude of Jesus toward sinners was neither condemnation nor condonation, but rather eternal and loving salvation. Jesus is truly a savior in the sense that his life and death do win men over to goodness and righteous survival. Jesus loves men so much that his love awakens the response of love in the human heart. Love is truly contagious and eternally creative. Jesus’ death on the cross exemplifies a love which is sufficiently strong and divine to forgive sin and swallow up all evil-doing. Jesus disclosed to this world a higher quality of righteousness than justice — mere technical right and wrong. Divine love does not merely forgive wrongs; it absorbs and actually destroys them. The forgiveness of love utterly transcends the forgiveness of mercy. Mercy sets the guilt of evil-doing to one side; but love destroys forever the sin and all weakness resulting therefrom. Jesus brought a new method of living to Urantia. He taught us not to resist evil but to find through him a goodness which effectually destroys evil. The forgiveness of Jesus is not condonation; it is salvation from condemnation. Salvation does not slight wrongs; it makes them right. True love does not compromise nor condone hate; it destroys it. The love of Jesus is never satisfied with mere forgiveness. The Master’s love implies rehabilitation, eternal survival. It is altogether proper to speak of salvation as redemption if you mean this eternal rehabilitation.

(2018.2) 188:5.3 Jesus, by the power of his personal love for men, could break the hold of sin and evil. He thereby set men free to choose better ways of living. Jesus portrayed a deliverance from the past which in itself promised a triumph for the future. Forgiveness thus provided salvation. The beauty of divine love, once fully admitted to the human heart, forever destroys the charm of sin and the power of evil.

(2018.3) 188:5.4 The sufferings of Jesus were not confined to the crucifixion. In reality, Jesus of Nazareth spent upward of twenty-five years on the cross of a real and intense mortal existence. The real value of the cross consists in the fact that it was the supreme and final expression of his love, the completed revelation of his mercy.

(2018.4) 188:5.5 On millions of inhabited worlds, tens of trillions of evolving creatures who may have been tempted to give up the moral struggle and abandon the good fight of faith, have taken one more look at Jesus on the cross and then have forged on ahead, inspired by the sight of God’s laying down his incarnate life in devotion to the unselfish service of man.

(2018.5) 188:5.6 The triumph of the death on the cross is all summed up in the spirit of Jesus’ attitude toward those who assailed him. He made the cross an eternal symbol of the triumph of love over hate and the victory of truth over evil when he prayed, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” That devotion of love was contagious throughout a vast universe; the disciples caught it from their Master. The very first teacher of his gospel who was called upon to lay down his life in this service, said, as they stoned him to death, “Lay not this sin to their charge.”

(2018.6) 188:5.7 The cross makes a supreme appeal to the best in man because it discloses one who was willing to lay down his life in the service of his fellow men. Greater love no man can have than this: that he would be willing to lay down his life for his friends — and Jesus had such a love that he was willing to lay down his life for his enemies, a love greater than any which had hitherto been known on earth.

(2019.1) 188:5.8 On other worlds, as well as on Urantia, this sublime spectacle of the death of the human Jesus on the cross of Golgotha has stirred the emotions of mortals, while it has aroused the highest devotion of the angels.

(2019.2) 188:5.9 The cross is that high symbol of sacred service, the devotion of one’s life to the welfare and salvation of one’s fellows. The cross is not the symbol of the sacrifice of the innocent Son of God in the place of guilty sinners and in order to appease the wrath of an offended God, but it does stand forever, on earth and throughout a vast universe, as a sacred symbol of the good bestowing themselves upon the evil and thereby saving them by this very devotion of love. The cross does stand as the token of the highest form of unselfish service, the supreme devotion of the full bestowal of a righteous life in the service of wholehearted ministry, even in death, the death of the cross. And the very sight of this great symbol of the bestowal life of Jesus truly inspires all of us to want to go and do likewise.

(2019.3) 188:5.10 When thinking men and women look upon Jesus as he offers up his life on the cross, they will hardly again permit themselves to complain at even the severest hardships of life, much less at petty harassments and their many purely fictitious grievances. His life was so glorious and his death so triumphant that we are all enticed to a willingness to share both. There is true drawing power in the whole bestowal of Michael, from the days of his youth to this overwhelming spectacle of his death on the cross.

(2019.4) 188:5.11 Make sure, then, that when you view the cross as a revelation of God, you do not look with the eyes of the primitive man nor with the viewpoint of the later barbarian, both of whom regarded God as a relentless Sovereign of stern justice and rigid law-enforcement. Rather, make sure that you see in the cross the final manifestation of the love and devotion of Jesus to his life mission of bestowal upon the mortal races of his vast universe. See in the death of the Son of Man the climax of the unfolding of the Father’s divine love for his sons of the mortal spheres. The cross thus portrays the devotion of willing affection and the bestowal of voluntary salvation upon those who are willing to receive such gifts and devotion. There was nothing in the cross which the Father required — only that which Jesus so willingly gave, and which he refused to avoid.

(2019.5) 188:5.12 If man cannot otherwise appreciate Jesus and understand the meaning of his bestowal on earth, he can at least comprehend the fellowship of his mortal sufferings. No man can ever fear that the Creator does not know the nature or extent of his temporal afflictions.

(2019.6) 188:5.13 We know that the death on the cross was not to effect man’s reconciliation to God but to stimulate man’s realization of the Father’s eternal love and his Son’s unending mercy, and to broadcast these universal truths to a whole universe.the white rose

Many, many years ago when I was in high school I had a spiritual experience and realized that all religion was bogus.

I was saved from the mind control that my parent's religion (catholic) wanted to force upon me. I was saved from spiritual slavery and found that existence was a mystery to be lived and explored. I found that beliefs got in the way of experiencing my true connection to the divine.

I was saved from the bullshit.

I WAS 11 I was asked by the highest power I was learning about if I wanted his son to save me, I said yes. And here I am will many positive stories of being saved and having good things come out of bad.

I've always been saved, same as you and all others too. I just realized it or was it remembered at an early age before most of the damage was done. Maybe I was blessed in always knowing that following my heart was the most correct way, for me at least, to live life. For me, once I followed my heart, all other answers fell into place.

no you determine that. it is your choice. Always has been through out all of eternity which is trillions and trillions of years YOU CHOSE eternal life.

OP; i was feefteen and, i gave me life to Christ. Oh, and it was a good thing,

Never Ending Story


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I am still being saved...

And God's Story is ALSO never ending....

I became one with the light that was the conversion.

I wasn't raised within any particular religious framework, but when i was of elementary school age i found some Chick Tracks on the ground and was terrified to learn what was inside. I had never heard of repenting and taking jesus into my heart. Well sure enough thats what I did. Yet, it changed nothing for me and i was still confronted with conflicting information, such as the varying states of people good to bad that would seem to indicate that whatever were to happen it certainly was not any god's will. For how do you explain the horrible things happening? Oh god is testing us right? Or god gave us free will, huh?

Then, i got to high school and in guitar class these metallers asked me if i listened to satanic metal. Well, i had never heard of such music (i did listen to bands like RUSH and Iron Maiden) and how could there be such music that blasphemed like so?? They asked me if I was scared of the devil! I laughed at them nervously as one of them handed me Slayer's Haunting the Chapel. I went home and listened to it in trepidation. WOW, was that some crazy shit. When i finished i realised that i was still alive! I was not smitten down by lightening. Nothing happened to me! Only, i really really liked that music!

You see, satanic music is much like Chick Tracks. And ultimately, the duality of good and evil is in itself that which nullifies the whole regligious thing. Within the duality is the intent, device, and methods for control and division. If god doesn't care what we all do, he may as well not exist. No, people created the ideas of good and evil because those were accurate descriptions of what they were seeing. Back when we didn't understand lightening and earthquakes and stuff, religion served to explain the unexplainable. These days, we have much more precise language for things and our understanding is really up to each one of us to reach criticality.

So, save yourself by letting go of those old chains. See what else is out there for what it really is!

Since you are sincere in your approach; I was baptized as a child and saved as a teen. I'm now 38. I have always believed and my faith is unyielding today. However, when you mention things being out of our control and they most certainly are, who do you think is controlling things?

Last year I was arrested on 18 felony counts of crimes I did not commit. I was looking at 25 to life. Because of my innocence, I took this to trial. Everything except for the facts as presented by my attorney, was out of my control. After a week-long trial and 3 days of deliberations, I was acquitted on all 18 counts. God was with me, through prayer and my belief and saw to it that justice was served and I wasn't wrongly imprisoned. True story.

If that isn't enough, 6 months later I was in a horrible accident that sent my head into the windshield of my bmw M3, and then through the passenger side window. I was instantly knocked unconscious. The force of the impact from the other driver hitting me stuck the throttle wide open and my car traveled another 1000' down the road until I had a head on with a tree. I woke up 25 min. later inside an ambulance, and for the severity of the crash, had minimal, minimal, minimal wounds. I had no seat-belt on and my car was completely totaled. True story.

Again, the Lord saved me. Not because I'm special, because I am assuredly not. But because I have FAITH and a personal relationship with God.

Some people might chalk up one of my stories to sheer luck, but both? 6 months apart from each other? I had absolutely NO control over the outcome of my fate, but someone did. That someone is God. Period.

May you find Him in your heart through faith, belief and prayer, I will keep you in mine.

-tommy

Last time I found Jesus in my heart I ended up with 3 hours of surgery in a cardiac unit!

So, did you pray the prayer?
Let us know so we can rejoice!
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many pastors think the salvation prayer is where it all ends. I think that is where it begins....
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Satan has many tricks. One will be that he'll tell you that you aren't really saved.
Another will be that he'll tell you it is okay to sin because your sins are forgiven. (this is not true--it will distance you away from God.) If you have questions, ask others. Read the Bible daily and pray. Begin giving over your life to God--your career, your thoughts, your clothing choices, your music...and as you begin doing this you will become closer and closer to Him. It is wonderful!

Was saved... am saved... extremely blessed.

Had a spiritual experience that led me to getting sober. I am a recovering alchoholic.

Interesting you only think you can be saved in one way...
a "Christian way"

Your mind is very closed off.


I have had several car wrecks.. I can't go into all of this here as it's my personal experience and it probably won't mean as much to you as it does to me..

But I was physically saved... numerous times... I was raised in a religious school, but during that time I had rejected religion and was 'agnostic.' When my car was in mid-air, spinning in slow motion... it was like time slowed down, just so I could ask for God's help... and you'd be surprised how fast you ask for God's help if you think you are about to die or your car is going to land upside down...

I said "Please, God, just let this car land right-side up"

It did, all 4 tires flew off the car and my driver's side door had popped open and was bent against the front end of the car. I was completely exposed. The only thing holding me in the car was my seatbelt and they said I was lucky that didn't break because it was a GM seatbelt.


There are many other experiences that are nothing short of MIRACLES, by definition of the word.

Since getting sober, I have been able to form a personal relationship with a God of my own understanding. Something I was looking for all my young life and knew I couldn't find God in the Bible... it's not there. I've tried. Christianity is too limiting and I think that's the issue other people get to with it as well.

There are things... in life... that block you off spiritually. They keep you from "seeing" the signs of God. Ever call a coincidence a coincidence? I refuse to call a coincidence a coincidence anymore... I now know that is God working in my life. Once you believe, you begin to see it with your own eyes. Things that block you off spiritually, such as alcohol, illicit drugs, prescriptions, etc (you KNOW what.. I don't have to break this down for you) are things that people will clutch to until they DIE... they have and they will. Most people on this earth right now are clutching to something they think protects them or makes them a better person... they are putting the power of God in a mere object, something that has no power whatsoever or the "wrong" kind of power. Or people rely on other people... nobody will stop their fucked up ways as long as they are enabled to do so... so a sick ass person will find another sick ass person to latch onto..

Anyways, I could go on and on...

I'm not here to convince anybody this is possible for them because I know that it is... if you want it.

Once you are saved, you cannot help but to see all the people who are not... and how you cannot save them. They can't even hear what you are saying through the lies they tell themselves.

This is why "witnessing" is bullshit and self-serving. You cannot force somebody to believe if they have not had the circumstances to force them into it... such as a life and death situation.

People walk around all day and never realize that relying on themselves will kill them, eventually.

This is the time we are coming to now. There will be a division between those that believe in something/anything higher than them and those that will not and do not.