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Russian space experts are battling to fix a technical failure on board an interplanetary craft that was heading to the Martian moon Phobos, amid fears the ship could crash back to Earth without ever reaching its goal.

­It was hailed as Russia’s first interplanetary mission in 15 years.

However, it looks like becoming the fourth unsuccessful attempt by Russian scientists to explore Mars and its moons.

Two automatic stations, Phobos-1 and Phobos-2, were launched in July 1988. However, both failed – one two months after the launch, the other just after it had started to transmit photo and video footage from Phobos’ orbit.

In 1996, yet another mission to Mars ended with the craft splashing into the Pacific.

When the rocket carrying Phobos-Grunt launched on Wednesday from Russia’s Baikonur cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, hopes were high that the station would bring back samples from one of Mars’s moons, thereby advancing our understanding of how the universe evolved. Now, it looks like those expectations were in vain.




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[link to microbewiki.kenyon.edu]
Bacillus subtilis

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Deinococcus radiodurans

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Saccharomyces cerevisiae

Nasty things equipped. Sounds like a super-weapon. FYI, Bacillus subtilis is Anthrax...


1st hypothesis: This spacecraft is purposely "stuck" in Earth's orbit, to cause a massive disaster.

2nd hypothesis: In the early '80s the former Russian pilot Col. Marina Popovich, who also was married to cosmonaut Pavel Popovich, stunned the world saying that Phobos is an alien space station. In case of this spacecraft was really headed to Phobos, perhaps "someone" just intercepted it, what makes me think if the Russians aren't in the middle of some interplanetary cold war.

The first hypothesis is the most scary, because might be the ultimate crime of TPTB against mankind: A supersonic bomb loaded with toxic fuel and causative agents of several diseases.


[link to history.nasa.gov]


[link to www.youtube.com]


Those bacteria exposed to sun radiation and are mutating genes probably, uh-oh
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[link to www.npr.org]

Astronauts are usually kept in quarantine before flight to prevent them from coming into contact with germs that they might bring on board a spacecraft. But last year, bacteria didn't have to sneak onto space shuttle Atlantis. Scientists put the bacteria on board, safely sealed up in tubes, and watched them blast off.

The mission involved a study lead by Arizona State University biologist Cheryl Nickerson that shows spaceflight affects the strength of salmonella, a germ that causes diarrhea and food poisoning.

While the shuttle orbited Earth, one of the astronauts turned a crank on a special canister. This mixed the bacteria with some food so that they started to grow. Then the shuttle headed home.

"These samples were recovered incredibly quickly off of the shuttle upon landing," Nickerson says.


Within a couple of hours, before the bacteria could readjust to life on Earth, the scientists used them to infect mice. These mice ended up doing much worse than animals infected with bacteria grown on earth.


"They got sick quicker and they ultimately succumbed to the infection quicker," Nickerson says.

This is the first time anyone has shown that bacteria can become more dangerous after spaceflight, Nickerson says. Previous studies had shown that some bacteria grow faster in space, or seem better able to resist antibiotics.

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"So we had a lot of basic fundamental knowledge that spaceflight can change a lot of properties of microbial cells, but we didn't have any mechanistic understanding at the molecular level of why that was happening," Nickerson says.

Nickerson says many people find it surprising that weightlessness has an effect on microbes.
*Very strange considering "Microgravity" is used with bacteria...WARNING


So, she adds, the new bacteria study suggests astronauts could face a double threat to their health in space — a weaker immune system trying to fight off stronger bacteria.

The study is being published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

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Very BIG PROBLEMS

Bacteria in space and under radiation has ability for gene's to get mutated and thereby increasing strength from 20X - 400X

For Anthrax, WHY?? Is this going to crash on Earth and regardless of location is going to cause a super-virus to kill most of world?

Heard about hundreds, thousands of underground bunker's getting built and didn't figure there use til now.


Biological Warfare...


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Okay, thank you. One thank you for putting it together in words, again for giving more needed information, and yet once more for elucidating the potential matter we have on our hands even further.

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The pieces to this puzzle are beginning to reveal...something.


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Is there something going on that we don't know about?



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1. "Previous flybys of Phobos have shown that it is not dense enough to be solid all the way through. Instead, it must be 25-35% porous. This has led planetary scientists to believe that it is little more than a ‘rubble pile’ circling Mars. Such a rubble pile would be composed of blocks both large and small resting together, with possibly large spaces between them where they do not fit easily together." [link to www.universetoday.com]

The March 3rd flyby was close enough to give scientists the best data yet about the gravitational field of Phobos.

The radio waves travel at the speed of light and took 6 minutes 34 seconds to travel from Earth to the spacecraft on Wednesday night, and by analyzing the data on Phobos’ gravity field, scientists should be able to estimate of the density variation across the moon and detect just how much of Phobos’ interior is likely to be composed of voids."

2. Re: Eisenhower White House Claimed Phobos was Artificial Structure
Thread: Eisenhower White House Claimed Phobos was Artificial Structure (Page 2)

3. [link to www.ufodigest.com]

4. [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]

5. [link to www.mactonnies.com]

6. Lightning Scarred Planet Mars Part 1: [link to www.youtube.com]

7. Lightning Scarred Planet Mars Part 2: [link to www.youtube.com]

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phobos mystery
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Way too odd. This feels like HUGE conspiracy


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God help us all!


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This could very well be the beginning of a USA/Russia Stand-off Over Phobos!
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ahhh


Need to make viral
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This could very well be the beginning of a USA/Russia Stand-off Over Phobos!
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You're right.
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I sent an email to director of operations requesting all 10 unknown microorganisms that are present on Phobos-Grunt, so hoping to get a reply.

Also read microgravity was employed/installed.
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I sent an email to director of operations requesting all 10 unknown microorganisms that are present on Phobos-Grunt, so hoping to get a reply.

Also read microgravity was employed/installed.
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Hmm. Keep us updated on that.

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YOUR NOT GONNA BELIEVE THIS


Thread: *** Russian space probe may save Earth from asteroid -THEY KNOW IT'S COMING 2012
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[link to www.space.com]

check that out...spooky
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There's nothing in that that says something is coming in 2012 but it does add an interesting layer to all of this. Thanks for the post.
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check that out...spooky
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That doesn't sound like something they can afford to lose, but the way things are going...
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skulburnOMFG, it just doesn't stop!


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For several years I have had a recurring dream that Phobos breaks away from Mars orbit and heads toward Earth. Silly..no?
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For several years I have had a recurring dream that Phobos breaks away from Mars orbit and heads toward Earth. Silly..no?
 Quoting: Rev. Jonathan Swift 5384411


Not sure it could drift out of orbit via natural processes. Yet, who really knows what might be going on out there on that strange object, what with the structures and all of the anomalies and strange events that are associated with it as I've posted above?

It's just in that the Russians would like to gain communication and partially salvage the use of the Phobos-Grunt probe and send it to our moon, however.

6 Hours Ago: [link to www.theregister.co.uk]

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For several years I have had a recurring dream that Phobos breaks away from Mars orbit and heads toward Earth. Silly..no?
 Quoting: Rev. Jonathan Swift 5384411


Not sure it could drift out of orbit via natural processes. Yet, who really knows what might be going on out there on that strange object, what with the structures and all of the anomalies and strange events that are associated with it as I've posted above?

It's just in that the Russians would like to gain communication and partially salvage the use of the Phobos-Grunt probe and send it to our moon, however.

6 Hours Ago: [link to www.theregister.co.uk]
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Plot twist!!!! starwars
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found another puzzle piece possibly

While Fobos-Grunt lands on and returns from Phobos, it might lose control and crash land on Mars.[57] It is speculated that the heat-resistant extremophile bacteria would survive such a crash, on the basis that Microbispora bacteria survived the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster.[58]


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


[link to www.newscientist.com]


A plan to send live microbes to the Red Planet's largest moon risks wrecking our search for extraterrestrial life, argues Barry E. DiGregorio.

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Now a mission slated to launch in the second half of 2011 will effectively tear up the treaty. The Russian Federal Space Agency's Phobos Sample Return Mission (formerly known as Phobos-Grunt) will send not just microbial spores but live bacteria into the solar system for the first time. If this isn't a direct violation of the Outer Space Treaty then what is?


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Is the transpermia question really so important that it is worth risking the contamination that would surely happen if the spacecraft malfunctioned and crashed on Mars?

For those having any doubts about microbes surviving a fiery re-entry, you need only consider the break-up of the Columbia space shuttle in February 2003. One of the microbial experiments on Columbia survived intact, although slightly charred. After analysis it was determined that a heat-resistant microbe, Microbispora, had survived.


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

A slow growing, heat resistant bacterium, identified by 16S rRNA gene sequencing as Microbispora sp., was recovered from the wreckage of the ill-fated space shuttle Columbia (STS-107). As this organism survived disintegration of the space craft, heat of reentry, and impact, it supports the possibility of a natural mechanism for the interplanetary spread of life by meteorites.


This is major. Need to connect the dots.
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found another puzzle piece possibly

While Fobos-Grunt lands on and returns from Phobos, it might lose control and crash land on Mars.[57] It is speculated that the heat-resistant extremophile bacteria would survive such a crash, on the basis that Microbispora bacteria survived the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster.[58]


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


[link to www.newscientist.com]


A plan to send live microbes to the Red Planet's largest moon risks wrecking our search for extraterrestrial life, argues Barry E. DiGregorio.

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Now a mission slated to launch in the second half of 2011 will effectively tear up the treaty. The Russian Federal Space Agency's Phobos Sample Return Mission (formerly known as Phobos-Grunt) will send not just microbial spores but live bacteria into the solar system for the first time. If this isn't a direct violation of the Outer Space Treaty then what is?


--------

Is the transpermia question really so important that it is worth risking the contamination that would surely happen if the spacecraft malfunctioned and crashed on Mars?

For those having any doubts about microbes surviving a fiery re-entry, you need only consider the break-up of the Columbia space shuttle in February 2003. One of the microbial experiments on Columbia survived intact, although slightly charred. After analysis it was determined that a heat-resistant microbe, Microbispora, had survived.


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

A slow growing, heat resistant bacterium, identified by 16S rRNA gene sequencing as Microbispora sp., was recovered from the wreckage of the ill-fated space shuttle Columbia (STS-107). As this organism survived disintegration of the space craft, heat of reentry, and impact, it supports the possibility of a natural mechanism for the interplanetary spread of life by meteorites.


This is major. Need to connect the dots.
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A war in space?
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Lets get us an american flag planted on phobos!!!!
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found another puzzle piece possibly

While Fobos-Grunt lands on and returns from Phobos, it might lose control and crash land on Mars.[57] It is speculated that the heat-resistant extremophile bacteria would survive such a crash, on the basis that Microbispora bacteria survived the Space Shuttle Columbia disaster.[58]


[link to en.wikipedia.org]


[link to www.newscientist.com]


A plan to send live microbes to the Red Planet's largest moon risks wrecking our search for extraterrestrial life, argues Barry E. DiGregorio.

--------

Now a mission slated to launch in the second half of 2011 will effectively tear up the treaty. The Russian Federal Space Agency's Phobos Sample Return Mission (formerly known as Phobos-Grunt) will send not just microbial spores but live bacteria into the solar system for the first time. If this isn't a direct violation of the Outer Space Treaty then what is?


--------

Is the transpermia question really so important that it is worth risking the contamination that would surely happen if the spacecraft malfunctioned and crashed on Mars?

For those having any doubts about microbes surviving a fiery re-entry, you need only consider the break-up of the Columbia space shuttle in February 2003. One of the microbial experiments on Columbia survived intact, although slightly charred. After analysis it was determined that a heat-resistant microbe, Microbispora, had survived.


[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov]

A slow growing, heat resistant bacterium, identified by 16S rRNA gene sequencing as Microbispora sp., was recovered from the wreckage of the ill-fated space shuttle Columbia (STS-107). As this organism survived disintegration of the space craft, heat of reentry, and impact, it supports the possibility of a natural mechanism for the interplanetary spread of life by meteorites.


This is major. Need to connect the dots.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1312941


Just what we need, interplanetary mutated space symbiotic bacteria-borne E.T. superorganisms learning how to alter all life as we know it.


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Novel and potentially life-threatning microbial mutagenic survival in space shuttle crash.

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[link to microbewiki.kenyon.edu]
Bacillus subtilis

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Deinococcus radiodurans

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Saccharomyces cerevisiae

Nasty things equipped. Sounds like a super-weapon. FYI, Bacillus subtilis is Anthrax...


1st hypothesis: This spacecraft is purposely "stuck" in Earth's orbit, to cause a massive disaster.

2nd hypothesis: In the early '80s the former Russian pilot Col. Marina Popovich, who also was married to cosmonaut Pavel Popovich, stunned the world saying that Phobos is an alien space station. In case of this spacecraft was really headed to Phobos, perhaps "someone" just intercepted it, what makes me think if the Russians aren't in the middle of some interplanetary cold war.

The first hypothesis is the most scary, because might be the ultimate crime of TPTB against mankind: A supersonic bomb loaded with toxic fuel and causative agents of several diseases.


[link to history.nasa.gov]


[link to www.youtube.com]


Those bacteria exposed to sun radiation and are mutating genes probably, uh-oh
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Astronauts are usually kept in quarantine before flight to prevent them from coming into contact with germs that they might bring on board a spacecraft. But last year, bacteria didn't have to sneak onto space shuttle Atlantis. Scientists put the bacteria on board, safely sealed up in tubes, and watched them blast off.

The mission involved a study lead by Arizona State University biologist Cheryl Nickerson that shows spaceflight affects the strength of salmonella, a germ that causes diarrhea and food poisoning.

While the shuttle orbited Earth, one of the astronauts turned a crank on a special canister. This mixed the bacteria with some food so that they started to grow. Then the shuttle headed home.

"These samples were recovered incredibly quickly off of the shuttle upon landing," Nickerson says.


Within a couple of hours, before the bacteria could readjust to life on Earth, the scientists used them to infect mice. These mice ended up doing much worse than animals infected with bacteria grown on earth.


"They got sick quicker and they ultimately succumbed to the infection quicker," Nickerson says.

This is the first time anyone has shown that bacteria can become more dangerous after spaceflight, Nickerson says. Previous studies had shown that some bacteria grow faster in space, or seem better able to resist antibiotics.

hiding

"So we had a lot of basic fundamental knowledge that spaceflight can change a lot of properties of microbial cells, but we didn't have any mechanistic understanding at the molecular level of why that was happening," Nickerson says.

Nickerson says many people find it surprising that weightlessness has an effect on microbes.
*Very strange considering "Microgravity" is used with bacteria...WARNING


So, she adds, the new bacteria study suggests astronauts could face a double threat to their health in space — a weaker immune system trying to fight off stronger bacteria.

The study is being published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.
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Very BIG PROBLEMS

Bacteria in space and under radiation has ability for gene's to get mutated and thereby increasing strength from 20X - 400X

For Anthrax, WHY?? Is this going to crash on Earth and regardless of location is going to cause a super-virus to kill most of world?

Heard about hundreds, thousands of underground bunker's getting built and didn't figure there use til now.


Biological Warfare...


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Bookmarked for juicy reading later! 5* suggested pin. :)
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[link to microbewiki.kenyon.edu]
Bacillus subtilis

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Deinococcus radiodurans

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Saccharomyces cerevisiae

Nasty things equipped. Sounds like a super-weapon. FYI, Bacillus subtilis is Anthrax...


1st hypothesis: This spacecraft is purposely "stuck" in Earth's orbit, to cause a massive disaster.

2nd hypothesis: In the early '80s the former Russian pilot Col. Marina Popovich, who also was married to cosmonaut Pavel Popovich, stunned the world saying that Phobos is an alien space station. In case of this spacecraft was really headed to Phobos, perhaps "someone" just intercepted it, what makes me think if the Russians aren't in the middle of some interplanetary cold war.

The first hypothesis is the most scary, because might be the ultimate crime of TPTB against mankind: A supersonic bomb loaded with toxic fuel and causative agents of several diseases.


[link to history.nasa.gov]


[link to www.youtube.com]


Those bacteria exposed to sun radiation and are mutating genes probably, uh-oh
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[link to www.npr.org]

Astronauts are usually kept in quarantine before flight to prevent them from coming into contact with germs that they might bring on board a spacecraft. But last year, bacteria didn't have to sneak onto space shuttle Atlantis. Scientists put the bacteria on board, safely sealed up in tubes, and watched them blast off.

The mission involved a study lead by Arizona State University biologist Cheryl Nickerson that shows spaceflight affects the strength of salmonella, a germ that causes diarrhea and food poisoning.

While the shuttle orbited Earth, one of the astronauts turned a crank on a special canister. This mixed the bacteria with some food so that they started to grow. Then the shuttle headed home.

"These samples were recovered incredibly quickly off of the shuttle upon landing," Nickerson says.


Within a couple of hours, before the bacteria could readjust to life on Earth, the scientists used them to infect mice. These mice ended up doing much worse than animals infected with bacteria grown on earth.


"They got sick quicker and they ultimately succumbed to the infection quicker," Nickerson says.

This is the first time anyone has shown that bacteria can become more dangerous after spaceflight, Nickerson says. Previous studies had shown that some bacteria grow faster in space, or seem better able to resist antibiotics.

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"So we had a lot of basic fundamental knowledge that spaceflight can change a lot of properties of microbial cells, but we didn't have any mechanistic understanding at the molecular level of why that was happening," Nickerson says.

Nickerson says many people find it surprising that weightlessness has an effect on microbes.
*Very strange considering "Microgravity" is used with bacteria...WARNING


So, she adds, the new bacteria study suggests astronauts could face a double threat to their health in space — a weaker immune system trying to fight off stronger bacteria.

The study is being published today in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

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Very BIG PROBLEMS

Bacteria in space and under radiation has ability for gene's to get mutated and thereby increasing strength from 20X - 400X

For Anthrax, WHY?? Is this going to crash on Earth and regardless of location is going to cause a super-virus to kill most of world?

Heard about hundreds, thousands of underground bunker's getting built and didn't figure there use til now.


Biological Warfare...


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Okay, thank you. One thank you for putting it together in words, again for giving more needed information, and yet once more for elucidating the potential matter we have on our hands even further.

skulburn

The pieces to this puzzle are beginning to reveal...something.


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Maybe what is going on up there and down here is another reason why there are so many dead biologists.

Another thing, looking to the original article posted on this thread and then extrapolating implications from the subsequent videos featuring Aldrin and Obama, it is apparent to me that the U.S. would like to claim Phobos for itself.


"In FY1988, NASA's Office of Exploration
sponsored four separate Exploration Case
Studies2,3 which outlined strategies for human
expeditions to Phobos and Mars, a humantended
lunar observatory, and an evolutionary
expansion strategy beginning with a lunar outpost
and progressing to similar bases of operations on
Mars and its moons. Phobos mission objectives
included basic exploration, resource surveys to
determine the existence of water, and the
establishment of a science station."
[link to trajectory.grc.nasa.gov]


Phobos-Grunt Was Designed NOT To Have Communication With Earth:



Is that because they think the Americans could be sabotaging?

"...the fourth unsuccessful attempt by Russian scientists to explore Mars and its moons."

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This guy has all the latest on what is in Phobos-Grunt and what it could mean, bacteria, anthrax, cobalt 57 (nuclear).

As was noted earlier, pathogens mutate when exposed to radiation and become more deadly.

Here's something on cobalt:
"The Cobalt Bomb is capable of wiping out life on earth. It explodes and emits long-lasting and lethal gamma radiation, the most energetic radiation in the electromagnetic spectrum. Has the Cobalt Bomb been constructed? If it has, then it is part of a classified arsenal of weapons, but who would want to
unleash a weapon of such destructive power that none who inhabit the earth would survive? Perhaps only those who can take refuge in a deep underground Ark. "

[link to www.rense.com]



Worse case scenario: Is it possible that Russian space craft double as advanced space weapon contingencies and that someone has armed it for some reason?

This is the third time in recent memory that a satellite of some kind has posed a threat to human lives.

In light of everything else on this thread, I fear that any number of foreboding developments could be underway.
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