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OWS RANT - A little long but it could have been longer - Just had to get it off my chest.

 
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OWS RANT - A little long but it could have been longer - Just had to get it off my chest.
So we have this group of protesters who are upset about the bailouts that took place for the companies that the GOVERNMENT deemed were too big to fail. Companies that were facing bankruptcy and the Government comes along and offers them a way out. Don’t tell me if you or any of these other protesters were in their shoes you wouldn’t have accepted those funds even though you would have to pay them back and with interest I might add. They saved their business just like any of these OWS protesters would save their own butts if they needed to. So why aren’t they directing their frustration towards the Government? Obama, and Bush before him, did allow those bailouts to take place. Why not protest the Obama administration? Congress? The Senate? Is it possible that all of these protesters were Obama voters? That would make sense as to why they are not directing their frustrations in the appropriate direction.

All I hear is whining and crying from these protesters. “We are the 99%, and Wall Street got bailed out and we got sold out!” You are what you make yourselves and you want to blame Wall Street for all of your own problems? Seriously? Personal accountability went right out the window with this Generation. Whatever happened to the old saying “Hard Work Pays Off”? Sometimes you have to do what you have to do to make ends meet even if that means working 2 or 3 jobs to get it done. So you can’t find your dream job right out of College and you’re pissed? Get off your butt and get a job like the rest of us and start getting your debt paid off. Don’t ask the rich to pay off your debt for you, that’s a cop-out and I feel no sympathy for you if you’d rather be on the street whining and crying as opposed to actually looking for a job, even if it’s a crap job.

And don’t tell me there are no jobs out there, that’s a load of garbage as well. It might be harder to find a job now than it was a few years ago, but I assure you that if you apply yourself, and don’t give up, eventually you are going to find someone who is willing to pay you for your work. But if you have that entitlement attitude that the world owes you something forget about it. No one wants to hire some pussy who hasn’t figured out that this life just isn’t fair sometimes.

Look, I’m all for peaceful protests. Protest your ass off. But don’t just sit there and whine and cry about people who have more than you do. Work hard and make something out of yourself. And if you’re going to protest offer some solutions! What are the solutions? What laws do they want changed? I have not heard any solutions that make one bit of sense from these protesters. You want wealth redistribution? You hate Capitalism? What are you going to replace it with? Communism? If you want Communism be my guest. Move to China and let me know how that Communist economic system works out for you. You’d be demanding to be back in this great country again as soon as your eyes were open to what great things you had thrown away.

Everybody gets it that your pissed ok. We heard you the first two months you were on the streets whining and crying and crapping on the sidewalks to get your point across. As a matter of fact you have a right to be pissed. That’s ok. But it appears to me that these protesters have simply thrown in the towel on life and now it’s all about getting a handout and hoping the Government can come in and wipe their asses for them. You want to protest big Government then hell I’m all for you! But protesting the big corporations that supply the majority of the jobs in this country is not a real solution. It’s time to offer some real solutions. Not some mumbo jumbo you pulled out of your liberal college that is really just marxism/socialism/communism disguised as your utopian ideas.

The bottom line is life is all about personal accountability. That’s what makes this country great. If you want to work hard it will pay off in the end. If you want to sit around and whine and cry about everything you don’t have you won’t be getting anywhere you want to be anytime soon. So make the choice to stand up, lower your standards if you have to, and get yourself to work or shut up. If you don’t want the jobs that are available out there for you that’s fine and dandy. They invented welfare for people like you. Take your Government check, know your role, and shut your mouth Jabroni!

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Bumping.
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The fact that OWS is not focused on DC is evidence that OWS is controlled by pro-Obama forces.
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The fact that OWS is not focused on DC is evidence that OWS is controlled by pro-Obama forces.
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It does appear that way from where I am sitting.

Is this Obama's Tea Party?

Do any of you think that these protesters really want Communisim here in the US? Am I just being paranoid?
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The OWS protesters seem to want government to "impose" their definition of "fairness" onto society but no one has done any kind of a job explaining just how that is to be done without creating massive authoritarianism.
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Re: OWS RANT - A little long but it could have been longer - Just had to get it off my chest.
The OWS protesters seem to want government to "impose" their definition of "fairness" onto society but no one has done any kind of a job explaining just how that is to be done without creating massive authoritarianism.
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You make a good point. I don't understand how they can't see just what it is they are asking for? And it all boils down to less freedom, not more. As much as I have tried to ignore them I just can't any longer. I've expected the movement to die off quickly but that isn't happening. There is more behind this movement than I first realized.
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Do any of you think that these protesters really want Communisim here in the US? Am I just being paranoid?
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Yep that retired police chief from Philadelphia is a Commie.
NAnd no you're not paranoid... there really are cops hiding under your bed.
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Wall street runs washington. The bailouts demonstrate this quite effectivly. Should people be pissed? hell yeah. The FED is corrupt. The derivatives market is teetiring under the weight of a decade of decadence and corruption and zero regulation. The securities and exchange commission is owned by the banks. Should people be pissed off hell yeah. Whats your point I dont understand. OWS is just a symptom of a system that is ripe with self dealing pricks. Should the OWS protesters be pissed hell yeah. Please explain why we should be happy with wall street when they are the same companies buying beaurocrats? Pelosi Obongo Geithner Bernanke Paulson Summers the list is endless of self dealing scumbags filling their pockets talking about too big to fail. Its time to hope for a change. Burn the witch!!!
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Re: OWS RANT - A little long but it could have been longer - Just had to get it off my chest.
Wall street runs washington. The bailouts demonstrate this quite effectivly. Should people be pissed? hell yeah. The FED is corrupt. The derivatives market is teetiring under the weight of a decade of decadence and corruption and zero regulation. The securities and exchange commission is owned by the banks. Should people be pissed off hell yeah. Whats your point I dont understand. OWS is just a symptom of a system that is ripe with self dealing pricks. Should the OWS protesters be pissed hell yeah. Please explain why we should be happy with wall street when they are the same companies buying beaurocrats? Pelosi Obongo Geithner Bernanke Paulson Summers the list is endless of self dealing scumbags filling their pockets talking about too big to fail. Its time to hope for a change. Burn the witch!!!
 Quoting: Government sacks 1456020


If a politician is bought, it is the fault of the politician. If that politican remains in office, it becomes the fault of the voters. We get, and are getting, the government we deserve. Any system is only what we make of it. I don't hear a word from the OWS protesters about restoring honor and integrity to the system. I only hear that they want it to be altered or replaced with one that gives them more access to the wealth and labor of others. How they expect this new system to operate as intended without demanding any honor or integrity from those tasked with managing it is anyone's guess.
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lol

ol coward boy

lol

best not disrupt the flow coward boy, cause protesters are bad

lol

but it has so many words- surley the op is a smart fellow- i mean it reads like Spinoza

lol
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The system is corrupt to the core. A reset is needed, not letters to politicians.
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Re: OWS RANT - A little long but it could have been longer - Just had to get it off my chest.
Wall street runs washington. The bailouts demonstrate this quite effectivly. Should people be pissed? hell yeah. The FED is corrupt. The derivatives market is teetiring under the weight of a decade of decadence and corruption and zero regulation. The securities and exchange commission is owned by the banks. Should people be pissed off hell yeah. Whats your point I dont understand. OWS is just a symptom of a system that is ripe with self dealing pricks. Should the OWS protesters be pissed hell yeah. Please explain why we should be happy with wall street when they are the same companies buying beaurocrats? Pelosi Obongo Geithner Bernanke Paulson Summers the list is endless of self dealing scumbags filling their pockets talking about too big to fail. Its time to hope for a change. Burn the witch!!!
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Sounds to me like the problem is with the politicians. Shouldn't laws be inacted to prevent the curroption you are speaking of? No one should be happy about curroption in the Government. No where am I condoning these actions. But Wall Street is not the right place for these protester to be venting their anger. You can be angry about some of the garbage that transpired but you have to also ask yourselve why did Companies like Fannie @ Freddy get into the trouble that they did?

Was it not American citizens who took on loans for housing that they could not afford? Who made it possible for anybody and his dog to get a home loan when it was clear that this was something that their budget would not support? Where is the personal accountability because believe you me there should be plenty to go around.
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best not disrupt the flow coward boy, cause protesters are bad

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I'm all for peaceful protests. But give us a message that is coherent not to mention some real solutions. Take your anger to the corrupt politicians. Not Wall Street where companies who provide many jobs in this country are trying to conduct business. You don't like corruption and neither do I. But what real solutions are being presented?

Also you hate the big corporations yet you buy their cloths, you eat their food, and you use their cell phones not to mention many other items that are produced. If you hate them so much and want to hurt them where it counts why not boycott all of these products that were sold by those evil corporations? Just curious...
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 Quoting: Government sacks 1456020


If a politician is bought, it is the fault of the politician. If that politican remains in office, it becomes the fault of the voters. We get, and are getting, the government we deserve. Any system is only what we make of it. I don't hear a word from the OWS protesters about restoring honor and integrity to the system. I only hear that they want it to be altered or replaced with one that gives them more access to the wealth and labor of others. How they expect this new system to operate as intended without demanding any honor or integrity from those tasked with managing it is anyone's guess.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1454475


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There is no such thing as too big to fail.

That was pure propaganda, covering the fact that some companies are too politically connected to fail.

Big difference, and one that shows just how much greed there really is.

Protesting a president (Bush, Carter, Obama, Reagan - who ever is in the oval office) completely and totally ignores how the Federal Government works.

Its the congress, not the president that has the power. Sure, congress cowers behind the President because the president makes for a good solid target.

The Veto ability is not all powerful, there are ways around it and at best it only stalls bills.

Lastly, Greed is not good.

There is too much greed, up and down the ladder.

OWS folk just don't get how complicated it really is, or maybe they do and they are only attempting to find a (one) scape goat to vent their frustration on.
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Re: OWS RANT - A little long but it could have been longer - Just had to get it off my chest.
There is no such thing as too big to fail.

That was pure propaganda, covering the fact that some companies are too politically connected to fail.

Big difference, and one that shows just how much greed there really is.

Protesting a president (Bush, Carter, Obama, Reagan - who ever is in the oval office) completely and totally ignores how the Federal Government works.

Its the congress, not the president that has the power. Sure, congress cowers behind the President because the president makes for a good solid target.

The Veto ability is not all powerful, there are ways around it and at best it only stalls bills.

Lastly, Greed is not good.

There is too much greed, up and down the ladder.

OWS folk just don't get how complicated it really is, or maybe they do and they are only attempting to find a (one) scape goat to vent their frustration on.
 Quoting: Bowyn Aerrow


You said "There is no such thing as too big to fail."

Which caught my attention and has me thinking. What if those bailouts never took place? What would the consequences of those actions have been if those companies were allowed to fail? Would the private sector have ironed out all of its messes on its own without the Government intervention?

Maybe we will never know but I would like to think that the Government intervention really wasn't necessary as I'm a supporter of less Government, not more. Is definitely an interesting thought to think where we all would be right now had the Government not intervened...

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The system is corrupt to the core. A reset is needed, not letters to politicians.
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So reset. Then what? Where do we find these perfect, uncorrupted, uncorruptable people to run it? Such people do not and have never existed. That is the whole theory behind a republic and self-governance, to limit power and to limit the damage that one corrupt individual or group and perpetrate on another. Who decides what is "fair"? Some armed force? Bureaucrats? Majority vote? How does it work. Please get past the slogans and flesh out this "reset" that you are talking about.
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