My Daughter wants gardasil. I know it's bad, what information do I give her. I need info quickly video, articles etc.

How is dead HPV virus like cancer? HPV can cause cancer in women, in fact it increases their risk by 40%.

Let your daughter get gardasil if she ever plans on being sexually active.

She is stupid. Natural selection is selecting her for deletion from the gene pool.

alarming number of serious reactions and deaths.

You're her mother. Tell her she can get it if she makes an informed decision by doing the reasearch herself.

Then when she finds out how bad it is for her, she can make the decision not to get it for herself. Gardasil prevents HPV for people who do not want to use condoms. Condoms prevent pregancy and STDs. Why is your daughter considering unprotected sex that would necessitate an STD vaccine?

I think the school is spewing propaganda.

Found this.

Your source?

If this is true why not simply present your daughter with the statistics?

I have a feeling you have been lied to.

Dumbest thing I have read.

The research is already done, that is why the FDA approved the drug. If new research has come to light to show how dangerous this drug is, then all the OP has to do is present her daughter with the research that has been conducted.

There is no need for the daughter to do "research".

I think you are spewing unsubstantiated propaganda. Merck has the science on their side. You don't. Until you do, they will be able to sell their drug.

BTW who sucks their boyfriends dick with a condom on? NOBODY.

Starts at around 4 min.

Sorry I don't see anything you posted. If you could post a link or if you already did, please post the url in text form by leaving the .com out of it. I will take a gander if you do.

Ooh and it's not like the FDA has EVER been wrong... Or paid off to pass a drug through.

This quite honestly sounds like a Merk paid shill. And I Have NEVER called anyone that!!!

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HPV is not a "new" virus. It is a fear-mongering virus. More shit to make women afraid they are going to lose their womb or something. It is seriously twisted. And men are carriers, but no, it's the women they are trying to force it onto.

Tell her to use a condom, like anyone else would and to be weary of who she sleeps with.

Then, let go and hope for the best.

LOL.

I could easily wipe the floor with you, as I come from a family of scientists. If I had the time and inclination I would, but doing it here at GLP is akin to preaching to the choir.

My mother is a biochemistry researcher who refuses to work for Big Pharma, and directs a lab of research scientists for CF funded by John Flatley at Harvard. You're not in the know, clearly.

Gardasil contains aluminum adjuvants which tend to destroy neural tissue and resulting pathways. There is no money in funding research that shows how dangerous any drug is, there is only money funding research to sell a drug whether dangerous or not.

Now, fuck off! You are in way over your head.

Show her those videos.

If she's younger than 18, you tell her fuck no. She's been brainwashed and scared into it.

That's the bottom line.

If this isn't a troll post, then you damn well better do your part to protect her.

No I won't. There is plenty of funding to show if a drug is dangerous or not. That is why it takes years for FDA approval.

I don't give a flying fuck what your mother does for a fucking living, it has ABSOLUTELY DICK TO DO WITH THE TOPIC AT HAND.

Aluminum is also in nearly every single deodorant on the market.

Aluminum is also leeched into our food when we cook with stainless steel cookware.

The fact of the matter is aluminum does have ill effects, and you get a shit load more of it in your body through other means than a vaccine.

So please come mop the floor with me sugar tits.

Bring your mommies education with you.

Because they are the ones who are 40% more likely to develop cervical cancer.

I'll show her these, thanks.

She tried to go to the doctor today by herself after school to get this shit, I had no idea, luckily she said the doctor was out of the office today, and didn't get the shot.

Thanks for the info guys, I wasn't sure where to start. I'll have a talk with her first thing in the morning.

Waiting.

Next you can tell me how mercury adjuvants cause autism but the shit tons of mercury people shove down their kids throats doesn't...

How could you possibly compare a mercury or aluminum adjuvant that is injected DIRECTLY into the bloodstream in combination with other chemicals... to trace amounts of mercury and aluminum in food and water?

You're not real bright, so no I won't bother with you.

Injecting aluminum adjuvants is vastly different than ingesting aluminim oxides, which is why these vaccines trigger auto-immune and nervous disorders in some cases. The thread is not about mercury, so try to stay on topic.

I won't waste any more time with you other than to give you this small clue: blood-brain barrier.

Why do you guys keep using the term adjuvant? As this makes the aluminum or mercury more deadly? Trying to sway uneducated minds?

How can I compare? Because believe it or not, what you ingest ends up in your bloodstream as well. And the amounts you intake through a vaccine, are much less than what one would take in naturally or I should say through their environment.

Let's not forget that cervical cancer is one of the LEAST COMMON, MOST NATURALLY PREVENTABLE and MOST TREATABLE forms of cancer.

According to the CDC, only 12000 American women are diagnosed with cervical cancer every year. That is less than 0.01% of the U.S. female population. That means you're daughter's odds of getting cervical cancer are EXTREMELY SMALL.

To reduce her chances even further, she only needs to do two things:

--Don't SMOKE

--Eat a healthy diet

[link to www.everydayhealth.com]

... and her odds of getting cervical cancer will go to almost ZERO.

I am not real bright but you state that aluminum oxides are found in deodorants?

Please, please post the studies that show that injecting aluminum adjuvants is more dangerous than ingesting aluminum. I will be waiting...

Fact of the matter it is the same thing. Aluminum in the blood stream is aluminum in the bloodstream.

Now you bring up the blood brain barrier. So the vaccines contain nanoparticles that carry the aluminum from the vaccine across the blood brain barrier? No it doesn't.

The fact of the matter is aluminum passes the BBB because it is mistaken for iron.

You can't be serious can you? Instead of stating your mother's education why not state yours?

You're comparing apples to oranges by refusing to consider method of delivery.

Aluminum ADJUVANTS are used to stimilate immune response by being administered in combination with antigens to form a precipitate. Not all aluminum compounds are administered as ADJUVANTS.

Aluminum ingested from cookware and soda cans is dealt with by the body in an entirely different fashion than in an injection.

You are a true waste of time. Ignorance wins.

Dude, your link that suggests to eat well and not smoke, also suggests getting the vaccine:

Getting annual Pap smears to screen for early cell changes

Getting vaccinated against HPV

Not smoking

Being monogamous (the risk of HPV increases with more than one sex partner)


While your advice of keeping a healthy immune system is solid, your claim that it would reduce your daughters chances to "EXTREMELY SMALL" is completely pulled out of your ass. Just like all the other anti-vaccine tripe posted in this thread.

While .01%, or 12,000 women are diagnosed with cervical cancer every year, much less are diagnosed with developing some sort of side effect from their gardasil vaccination.

But whatever, don't want your kid to be vaccinated? Don't vaccinate them. No skin off my nose. Have a problem with your state forcing your children to take them? Elect a different state government then.

3767836, your questions are answered in this video.

I am ignoring the method of delivery because it has no relevance. Our contention is with safe levels of aluminum in the blood stream.

Aluminum in vaccines is directly injected into the bloodstream. Indeed, we agree.

Aluminum ingested is not, therefor it is not as potent because not as much is absorbed into the bloodstream as if it were to be injected. Agreed.

Aluminum in the environment for most people, causes much more aluminum to be in the bloodstream than a one time injection of trace amounts of aluminum adjuvants.

Your complaint is that the aluminum from the vaccine passes the BBB and has ill effects on the brain. The fact of the matter is aluminum is not carried into the brain because it is designed to stimilate (sic) the immunse system. Aluminum is passes the BBB because it is mistaken for Iron.

So what don't you get? Please specifically explain how on earth the vaccine causes larger amounts of aluminum to pass the BBB and please show the studies that suggest that harmful amounts of aluminum passes the BBB, and in larger amounts then what naturally would, causing negative side effects in patients.

It doesn't exist, because gardasil is safe.