There are still no such things as Chemtrails

I wasn´t asking you your IQ.

What a lame avatar name. Why does the belief in chemtrails bother you so much?

You can just think of me as an Evangelical Chemtrailian.

what is this?

from Technology Alert list:
August 2002, U.S. Department of State


CHEMICAL, BIOTECHNOLOGY AND BIOMEDICAL ENGINEERING:
The technology used to produce chemical and biological weapons is inherently dual-use. The same technologies that could be applied to develop and produce chemical and biological weapons are used widely by civilian research laboratories and industry; these technologies are relatively common in many countries. Advanced biotechnology has the potential to support biological weapons research. In the biological area, look for interest in technologies associated with:

Aerobiology (study of microorganisms found in the air or in aerosol form)
Biochemistry
Pharmacology
Immunology
Virology
Bacteriology
Mycology
Microbiology
Growth and culturing of microorganisms
Pathology (study of diseases)
Toxicology
Study of toxins
Virulence factors
Genetic engineering, recombinant DNA technology
Identification of nucleic acid sequences associated with pathogenecity
Freeze-drying (lyophilization)
Fermentation technology
Cross-filtration equipment
High "DOP-rated filters" (e.g., HEPA filters, ULPA filters)
Microencapsulation
Aerosol sprayers and technology, aerosol and aerosolization technology
Spray or drum drying technology
Milling equipment or technology intended for the production of micron-sized particles
Technology for eliminating electrostatic charges of small particles
Flight training
Crop-dusting, aerosol dissemination
Unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) technology
Fuses, detonators, and other munitions technology
Submunitions technology
Computer modeling of dissemination or contagion
Chemical absorption (nuclear-biological-chemical (NBC) protection)
In the chemical area, look for:

Organo-phosphate chemistry
Neurochemistry
Chemical engineering
Chemical separation technology
Pesticide production technology
Pharmaceutical production technology
Chemical separation technology
Toxicology
Pharmacology
Neurology
Immunology
Detection of toxic chemical aerosols
Chemical absorption (Nuclear-Biological-Chemical (NBC) protection)
Production of glass-lined steel reactors/vessels, pipes,flanges, and other equipment
Aerosol sprayers and technology
Flight training
Crop-dusting, aerosol dissemination
Unmanned Aerial Vehicle (UAV) technology
Fuses, detonators, and other munitions technology
Submunitions technology
Computer modeling of dissemination

[link to www.oiss.yale.edu]

Evangelist is probably not far off you lamer.

they are called aerosols
just because the scientists don´t use the word ´chemtrails´ doesn´t nullify the fact that aerosols are actually being deposited in the atmosphere

There are still such things as Chemtrails

I´ve seen a few posts lately that mention chemtrails again.

Just so we are clear: There are STILL such things as chemtrails.

If you don´t believe in chemtrails your are one or more of these choices:

Lied to

Stupid

Gullible

Misinterpreting what you are seeing

A disinformation agent in it for profit



Nothing any of you ever say or do will ever make chemtrails be UNreal. If you are just one of the casual stupid UNbelievers, get over it now. You have been told.

Chemtrails R NOT Frauds

I am Truth

Ever heard of CLOUD SEEDING huh fucktardia? Go back to sleep if you think the technology has not advanced in 50 years. Here´s a lollipop.

ok, op, if I, in my delusion, have seen planes laying down trails that spread out into drifts that can whiteout the entire sky, and I have been seeing this activity for the last five years, and this activity did not happen before five years ago, at least in my area -- tell me, what have I been seeing?

Don´t bother, people. This poster is just trying to stir up negative shit. No need to reward him/her. Use the opportunity to make other people aware of what´s going on. If this individual wants to obsess over people who believe in chemtrails, then let it be.

these debunkers have been debunked over and over


all they are doing is allowing more people to be educated on this topic

their tactics are backfiring

Duu I thought you said flem trails there´s no such thing as them either. Op what are you, because you are either blind or just plain stupid.

The Illuminati Gov can say that there is no such thing as ´chemtrails´ because they call them something else. But we don´t go by the limited ignorance of the PTB.

´Chemtrail´ is OUR word for Treason in the Air. And it will remain that way. It is WETHEPEOPLE who decide the true definitions of things; not some bureaurocratic Doublespeaking pawn...

Thanks for trying to stir us up and cause more anxiety. All you´ve done is make us more determined to out you. Power lies within us.

Anyone who looks can see the chemtrails. Saying there is no such thing is like saying the sun isn´t yellow. Oh, hang on...

the open skies treaty by NATO allows foreign planes in our airspace

I live under a landing path for the LAX, and I have asthma. The planes dont bother me, so I can tell they dont pollute as bad. But 2 incidents where chem-trails made me sick. Ughhh

I know chem trails exist because I read about them on the internet, and the internet doesn´t lie.

Also, my cousin´s brother mother´s sister said she saw a plane in the air once and it had white stuff coming off of its wings.



Seriously, White smoke coming off the wings is a natural phenomena in which the air moving over the tips of the wings are essentially super cooled and basically form clouds behind them as the molecules slow down their movement and get closer together thus allowing light to be reflected off of it so you can see it.


How dare scientists study viruses and diseases that can live in the air and passed about. Cause we all know that we can´t study anything without it being a weapon. Or to find out how to stop it first.

Take Michael Moore. His aerosol could kill a small village. If you´re going to blame anyone, blame Michael Moore.

your inane comments are not really helpful here

"Seriously, White smoke coming off the wings is a natural phenomena in which the air moving over the tips of the wings are essentially super cooled and basically form clouds behind them as the molecules slow down their movement and get closer together thus allowing light to be reflected off of it so you can see it."

and how long would you suppose that it should take for these clouds of yours to disperse, if they are formed by cooled air from the wings? A few seconds? A few minutes? Or could they linger all day, spread out, cover the sky? And would you expect this cooled-air phenomenon to happen only in certain weather conditions, or at any time, even on a hot midsummer´s day?

op is blind.

OP is probably HAZZARD. Make a statement like there are still no such things as chemtrails and one is SURE to get attention.

read up on NATO´s open sky treaty
don´t give in to ignorance

here´s a link

[link to www.state.gov]


there is a quota that each country must fly
these extra flights have spread contrails over the northern hemisphere
these contrails create heat traps in the arctic region

that is all science

Only until he/she sees a clear sunlight sky become filled with planes spraying something which in turn causes the sky to fill with clouds (sometimes in patterns) for several hours or the rest of the day will he/she believe.. oh and in order to see this happen take a good look at the sky before a storm front moves in, if you live in the north east you will see it the day before it snows.

I guess that totally depends on the other atmospheric conditions. Amount of moisture in the air at that altitude. Air temperature at that altitue. Wind current speed. Many combinations that can cause many reactions.

yesterday, while they were laying down their usual heavy grid of Xs, a lone small wisp of real cloud floated overhead beneath the now-hazy chemtrail cover. as the sun shone thru the chemical haze, it also hit the wisp of real cloud. now here´s the interesting part: that little cloud had 3 bands of color thru it - a ´metallic´ green; a ´nuclear´ pink, and a whitish yellow. that green color was really freaky. I can´t even describe it - calling it ´metallic´ doesn´t really describe it but it´s the closest i can come up with.

You must know something Congressman / Presidential candidate Dennis Kucinich doesn´t. want to share?

Rep. Kucinich´s HR 2977 Names Chemtrails As An ´Exotic Weapon´

After years of denial from government, military, and environmental agencies, the reality of the controversial issue regarding the covert programs known as Chemtrails has been acknowledged.

On October 2, 2001 Congressman Dennis Kucinich, Ohio introduced H. R. 2977 during the 1st Session of the 107th Congress of the United States. The "Space Preservation Act of 2001" seeks to "preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benfit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons."

In the bill Chemtrails are listed as an "exotic weapons system". Ironically in Section 7 - Definitions. The complete text of the bill may be found at Clifford Carnicom´s website, "Chemtrail Crimes and Coverup Documented".

The bill also addresses such things as particle beams, electromagnetic radiation, plasma, or extremely low frequency (ELF) or ultra low frequency (ULF) energy radiation, and mind-control as weapons. All of these areas have been researched and pondered by those investigating chemtrails and working to gain accountability for those programs.

They can´t have it both ways. Water vapor is not a weapon.

This is a call to all those of conscience. This is a time when action is needed. It is time. The lies have gone on long enough. We can tell the Air Force and the Navy and the other agencies involved in this criminal activity, "No, You may NOT own the Weather ...Period!" We may not have another chance.

On behalf of the members of Chemtrail Tracking USA, Clifford Carnicom´s Board, Chemtrail Central and the many other groups and individuals working diligently to get accountability, we urge your listeners to respond. Contact government and media, demand answers. If not now, when?

We know what we see. We did not consent. We want it stopped.

To see text of HR 2977: [link to www.carnicom.com]

OP says:

I´ve seen a few posts lately that mention chemtrails again.

Just so we are clear: There are STILL no such things as chemtrails.
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OP is obviously blind. See here:

[link to www.google.com]

505,000 web pages on this phenomenon.

"I guess that totally depends on the other atmospheric conditions. Amount of moisture in the air at that altitude. Air temperature at that altitue. Wind current speed. Many combinations that can cause many reactions."

ok, so you´re saying that these consditions have changed sufficiently over the last few years to allow the formation of clouds from wing-cooled air, whereas prior to a few years ago, this didn´t happen? What has changed? Why have conditions changed?

they changed the fuel they use in the jets

that is one difference

this change caused the contrails to be persistant and spread out to create heat traps

jp-8 and jp-5 jet fuel info:



[link to www.atsdr.cdc.gov]