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Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!

 
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Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
I believe this is true vindication for all people who have observed daily aerosolization of regional skies aka geoengineering aka chemtrails aka persistent jet contrails aka ruining our beautiful blue sky trails. This is IT, folks. Truth, truth, and more truth. Any persistent deniers are nothing more than corporo-fascist g-trolls.

"The correct answer defines the terms of humanity's 'Faustian aerosol bargain' (Hansen and Lacis, 1990). Global warming has been limited, as aerosol cooling partially offsets GHG
warming. But aerosols remain airborne only several days, so they must be pumped into the air faster and faster to keep pace with increasing long-lived GHGs. However, concern about health effects of particulate air pollution is likely to lead to eventual reduction of human-made aerosols. Thereupon the Faustian payment will come due."

Read the paper and watch the YouTube video. Although the paper is MUCH more clear.

[link to thinkprogress.org]
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I believe this is true vindication for all people who have observed daily aerosolization of regional skies aka geoengineering aka chemtrails aka persistent jet contrails aka ruining our beautiful blue sky trails. This is IT, folks. Truth, truth, and more truth. Any persistent deniers are nothing more than corporo-fascist g-trolls.

"The correct answer defines the terms of humanity's 'Faustian aerosol bargain' (Hansen and Lacis, 1990). Global warming has been limited, as aerosol cooling partially offsets GHG
warming. But aerosols remain airborne only several days, so they must be pumped into the air faster and faster to keep pace with increasing long-lived GHGs. However, concern about health effects of particulate air pollution is likely to lead to eventual reduction of human-made aerosols. Thereupon the Faustian payment will come due."

Read the paper and watch the YouTube video. Although the paper is MUCH more clear.

[link to thinkprogress.org]
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And this proves that the trails in the sky aren't contrails...how?!
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And this proves that the trails in the sky aren't contrails...how?!
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flo6Az3 Hello Mr Warrior On The Block. It looks like your Masonic masters have you working the holiday shift this year. lol
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
And this proves that the trails in the sky aren't contrails...how?!
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:flo6::Az3: Hello Mr Warrior On The Block. It looks like your Masonic masters have you working the holiday shift this year. lol
 Quoting: Judethz


And it looks like you make assumptions about people whom you know nothing about based on your paranoid world view...

What was wrong with my question? How does the OP show that the trails in the sky have anything to do with what he has posted?

yes, I get that you don't like to be disagreed with about this subject...but that's no excuse to make up lies.

Why are you such a bitch?
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
What does it take to wake people up? Just do a rudimentary search on geoengineering and weather modification and you will obtain a treasure trove of legitimate government reports as well as peer reviewed work. Don't be a lazy bastard - do your own research. Here's something to maybe wake up your lazy uninformed ass. Don't be a default denier.

[link to www.scribd.com]
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
What does it take to wake people up? Just do a rudimentary search on geoengineering and weather modification and you will obtain a treasure trove of legitimate government reports as well as peer reviewed work. Don't be a lazy bastard - do your own research. Here's something to maybe wake up your lazy uninformed ass. Don't be a default denier.

[link to www.scribd.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2144573


Yes, I understand that there is a lot of info out there...

Yet, I can't find ANYTHING that specifically states that the trails in the sky, which i have known to be persistent contrails for over 40 years, have ANYTHING to do with "geoengineering"..

I'm certainly not a "lazy bastard". I have spent 40 years studying aviation and the atmosphere...and I went to college for a 4 year commercial aviation degree. Maybe I haven't done as many google searches as the average chemtard....so maybe you could show me where the trails I have seen in the sky through my entire life are linked to "geoengineering" with evidence...instead of assumption.

I'd appreciate that.

Thanks

Also, I'd like to suggest that you do a rudimentary search on persistent contrails and air saturation. You may learn something.
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
Read the report. Read all the reports. How do you think they are delivering these particulates - through their assholes? For an educated person, you are just being short of ridiculous. I hate to get so irritated, but "stupid-acting" people just bring out the prickliness.
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
Read the report. Read all the reports. How do you think they are delivering these particulates - through their assholes? For an educated person, you are just being short of ridiculous. I hate to get so irritated, but "stupid-acting" people just bring out the prickliness.
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You should just treat Noble posts like gaps in your thread or lines between posts.
Totally expected and to be treated like punctuation.
Thank you for the posts, I'm learning a lot now.
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
Read the report. Read all the reports. How do you think they are delivering these particulates - through their assholes? For an educated person, you are just being short of ridiculous. I hate to get so irritated, but "stupid-acting" people just bring out the prickliness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2144573


No one is "delivering" anything...

It's called pollution...

You fuckwits see the word 'aerosol', and wet yourselves trying to get to the keyboard...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
Read the report. Read all the reports. How do you think they are delivering these particulates - through their assholes? For an educated person, you are just being short of ridiculous. I hate to get so irritated, but "stupid-acting" people just bring out the prickliness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2144573


Yes, I understand the report...i understand the claims. I also understand that the assumption that the trails in the sky aren't contrails and have anything to do with an aerosol spray program is nothing but assumption.

I'm sorry if you think it's stupid of me not to make the same assumptions you do. I feel the same way about you. I see no evidence that the trails in the sky are anything more than persistent contrails...and I see no evidence that they have anything to do with any spry program. I find it interesting that so many make a connection between the trails in the sky...and aerosol programs with nothing more than assumption.

Don't blame ME for your "prickliness"....that's all you..
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
Read the report. Read all the reports. How do you think they are delivering these particulates - through their assholes? For an educated person, you are just being short of ridiculous. I hate to get so irritated, but "stupid-acting" people just bring out the prickliness.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2144573


No one is "delivering" anything...

It's called pollution...

You fuckwits see the word 'aerosol', and wet yourselves trying to get to the keyboard...
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Right...to these people "aerosol" means someone is "spraying" something.

They see that word...and use their powers of assumptive reasoning to jump to conclusions...
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
Read the report. Read all the reports. How do you think they are delivering these particulates - through their assholes? For an educated person, you are just being short of ridiculous. I hate to get so irritated, but "stupid-acting" people just bring out the prickliness.
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You should just treat Noble posts like gaps in your thread or lines between posts.
Totally expected and to be treated like punctuation.
Thank you for the posts, I'm learning a lot now.
 Quoting: Zero Point


Yeah...you're learning a lot...

A lot about how to jump to conclusions and accept nonsense as fact..

Good job!
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
I believe this is true vindication for all people who have observed daily aerosolization of regional skies aka geoengineering aka chemtrails aka persistent jet contrails aka ruining our beautiful blue sky trails. This is IT, folks. Truth, truth, and more truth. Any persistent deniers are nothing more than corporo-fascist g-trolls.

"The correct answer defines the terms of humanity's 'Faustian aerosol bargain' (Hansen and Lacis, 1990). Global warming has been limited, as aerosol cooling partially offsets GHG
warming. But aerosols remain airborne only several days, so they must be pumped into the air faster and faster to keep pace with increasing long-lived GHGs. However, concern about health effects of particulate air pollution is likely to lead to eventual reduction of human-made aerosols. Thereupon the Faustian payment will come due."

Read the paper and watch the YouTube video. Although the paper is MUCH more clear.

[link to thinkprogress.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2144573


So like any crime we look for motive first.
Very interesting indeed.
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I love when I add losers to the ignore list.

Seeing "hidden post" instead of inane drivel is much better...
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
I believe this is true vindication for all people who have observed daily aerosolization of regional skies aka geoengineering aka chemtrails aka persistent jet contrails aka ruining our beautiful blue sky trails. This is IT, folks. Truth, truth, and more truth. Any persistent deniers are nothing more than corporo-fascist g-trolls.

"The correct answer defines the terms of humanity's 'Faustian aerosol bargain' (Hansen and Lacis, 1990). Global warming has been limited, as aerosol cooling partially offsets GHG
warming. But aerosols remain airborne only several days, so they must be pumped into the air faster and faster to keep pace with increasing long-lived GHGs. However, concern about health effects of particulate air pollution is likely to lead to eventual reduction of human-made aerosols. Thereupon the Faustian payment will come due."

Read the paper and watch the YouTube video. Although the paper is MUCH more clear.

[link to thinkprogress.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2144573


So like any crime we look for motive first.
Very interesting indeed.
 Quoting: Zero Point


Didn't read the report or watch the vid, huh?

pick
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Ignore list! Never noticed that before. Much better!
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Hiding won't change anything...

rolleyes

(that's directed to both of you)
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Oh look, a hidden post. I'm sure the comment was most educational.
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Thanks for proving my point...

loser
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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Noble, you are correct.

However it is futile to expect irrational people to respond to rational argument.

People with no(little) understanding of science or engineering and/or with personality defects causing them to suffer from paranoia and suspision.
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Noble and some of these fruits either have an agenda or are too scared to acknowledge the truth. why oh why do u people argue w em. its fact.
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Re: Chemtrail Deniers: suck on this lollipop!!
I believe this is true vindication for all people who have observed daily aerosolization of regional skies aka geoengineering aka chemtrails aka persistent jet contrails aka ruining our beautiful blue sky trails. This is IT, folks. Truth, truth, and more truth. Any persistent deniers are nothing more than corporo-fascist g-trolls.

"The correct answer defines the terms of humanity's 'Faustian aerosol bargain' (Hansen and Lacis, 1990). Global warming has been limited, as aerosol cooling partially offsets GHG
warming. But aerosols remain airborne only several days, so they must be pumped into the air faster and faster to keep pace with increasing long-lived GHGs. However, concern about health effects of particulate air pollution is likely to lead to eventual reduction of human-made aerosols. Thereupon the Faustian payment will come due."

Read the paper and watch the YouTube video. Although the paper is MUCH more clear.

[link to thinkprogress.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2144573


And this proves that the trails in the sky aren't contrails...how?!
 Quoting: Noble


The trails you have been looking at for 40 years are part of the aerosol pollution that is promoting global dimming. . . They have just become more numerous, more persistent with greater albedo effect (radiative forcing) . . . Seems the airlines, IPCC and the UN are part of the process. . . .
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"Delivering between 1 and 5 MtS/yr to the stratosphere
is feasible. The mass involved is less than a tenth of the
current annual payload of the global air transportation,
and commercial transport aircraft already reach the lower
stratosphere. Methods of delivering the required mass to
the stratosphere depend on the required delivery altitude,
assuming that the highest required altitude would be that
needed to access the lower tropical stratosphere, about
20 km, then the most cost-effective delivery method would
probably be a custom built fleet of aircraft... "
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For all you UK_denier_tards......

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Nice image and does not disprove the point. Jet fuel mixing is the most likely approach to delivering the shit: aluminum and barium salts, sulphates etc... that eventually toxifies our water/crops. In fact, Monsanto is working on aluminum-resistant seeds to deal with the "unintended" consequences of unethical science....Makes organic obsolete, don't you think?
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My question . . . Where did the sudden increase of aerosols come from??????

NOAA study: Increase in particles high in Earth’s atmosphere has offset some recent climate warming
July 21, 2011

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Light from a lidar instrument forms a beam in the sky over Boulder, Colo.. NOAA researchers and colleagues used lidar data to better understand recent changes in the amounts of tiny particles high in Earth's atmosphere.
Download here. (Credit: CIRES/NOAA)
A recent increase in the abundance of particles high in the atmosphere has offset about a third of the current climate warming influence of carbon dioxide (CO2) change during the past decade, according to a new study led by NOAA and published today in the online edition of Science. 

In the stratosphere, miles above Earth’s surface, small, airborne particles reflect sunlight back into space, which leads to a cooling influence at the ground. These particles are also called “aerosols," and the new paper explores their recent climate effects -- the reasons behind their increase remain the subject of ongoing research.

“Since the year 2000, stratospheric aerosols have caused a slower rate of climate warming than we would have seen without them,” says John Daniel, a physicist at the NOAA Earth System Research Laboratory (ESRL) in Boulder, Colo. and an author of the new study.

The new study focused on the most recent decade, when the amount of
aerosol in the stratosphere has been in something of a “background” state, lacking sharp upward spikes from very large volcanic eruptions. The authors analyzed measurements from several independent sources – satellites and several types of ground instruments – and found a definitive increase in stratospheric aerosol since 2000.

“Stratospheric aerosol increased surprisingly rapidly in that time, almost doubling during the decade,” Daniel said. “The increase in aerosols since 2000 implies a cooling effect of about 0.1 watts per square meter –
enough to offset some of the 0.28 watts per square meter warmingeffect from the carbon dioxide increase during that same period.”


Sources of aerosols reach the stratosphere from above and below, as shown in the graph. Sulfur dioxide (SO2), carbonyl sulfide (OCS), and dimethyl sulfide(DMS) are the dominant surface emissions which contribute to aerosol formation.

Download here. (Credit: NOAA)
The reasons for the 10-year increase in stratospheric aerosols are not fully
understood and are the subject of ongoing research, says coauthor Ryan Neely, with the University of Colorado and the Cooperative Institute for Research in Environmental Sciences (CIRES).
Likely suspects are natural sources – smaller volcanic eruptions – and/or human activities, which could have emitted the sulfur-containing gases, such as sulfur dioxide, that react in the atmosphere to form reflective aerosol particles.
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I've found private companies (in the recent past - if I can find my links, I'll post them) who are in the "business" of delivering particulates to the stratosphere via aircraft - explicitly stated on their websites. In this way, I think governments are not lying per se (as far as the depth of direct involvement (taxpayer funded)- beyond "research" and indirect development (modeling,) and since there is no legislation controlling this new industry/research....

This approach to global warming mitigation, however legitimate or noble, has not been through a rigorous risk-benefit-safety analysis and unintended consequences are too serious to ignore. We ought not continue to mess with this on a large scale until we are sure of the consequences, can control/reverse the unintended effects, and that we "first, do no (more additional) harm."
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Noble, you are correct.

However it is futile to expect irrational people to respond to rational argument.

People with no(little) understanding of science or engineering and/or with personality defects causing them to suffer from paranoia and suspision.
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I'm still going to post the truth where they post their rubbish.
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Noble and some of these fruits either have an agenda or are too scared to acknowledge the truth. why oh why do u people argue w em. its fact.
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Because they are influencing people into a poor quality of life.





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