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"Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.

 
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"Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
Hi.

Several days ago I created an account only to post one thing, and then I deleted, but whatever, here I am again.

Well. I'm fed up of that "words of wisom" bullshit. This user who keeps talking shit and making stupid predictions includes the shroud of Turin in his avatar, and other posters support the Shroud as well.

It pisses me off because, besides being a false prophet, he incurs in idolatry, according to the book he says he follows (the Bible, right?).

It is obviously fake, so I want to share the following links:

[link to www.skepdic.com]

[link to translate.google.com] (translated from Castilian into English)

What do you think?

So, my first words of wisdom are:

The Shroud of Turin is FAKE.

PS: by the way, someday I will post my own "words of wisdom" (i.e., made up predictions/prophecies) and then find some facts to accommodate them and claim that I was right. You know, only to prove that anybody can do that.

Last Edited by Who. on 11/29/2011 05:39 PM
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To the 1 star bastard: show up!
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
Shroud of Turin is Saint Peter or as he was known in his life Cephas
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Hi.

The Shroud is a fake (neither Jesus nor Peter nor Obama's father was there). It's obviously a painting (a weird one, because it's a forgery, but yes, a painting). You can even see that the proportions of the body are typical of those depicted in Medieval art. It's not 100% realistic.

Plus, read those links.
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
As a Christian, it doesn't make or break my Faith one way or the other.

Even so, it lines up with the Sudarium too closely to dismiss as an outright fake.
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
As a Christian, it doesn't make or break my Faith one way or the other.

Even so, it lines up with the Sudarium too closely to dismiss as an outright fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6013727


The fact that the Shroud is a fake doesn't imply that Christianity is a fake, as well. A lot of people believe in Christ and in a pure doctrine, but are also against this kind of "material". This doesn't mean these are my beliefs, either. I'm just being fair. Shroud =/= Christianity.

However, please read the links. It just doesn't make sense.
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
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As a Christian, it doesn't make or break my Faith one way or the other.

Even so, it lines up with the Sudarium too closely to dismiss as an outright fake.
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I double THIS.
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
As a Christian, it doesn't make or break my Faith one way or the other.

Even so, it lines up with the Sudarium too closely to dismiss as an outright fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6013727


I double THIS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


Do you "double" the first sentence, the second or both?
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
To O_o or not to O_o?
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dear one, the shroud itself is REAL. It was kept carefully over a long time and buried with the scrolls of Judas in the grave around 80+ years after the crucifixion, after the actual death of Jesus in Srinagar, Kashmir . He did NOt die on the cross, the resurrection story is a lie. He was in a coma, and he recovered from it. he went over time to India and you can see stories of that in my signature file.

You can read the scrolls of Judas who was NOT the betrayer here:

[link to tweeofmeer.webs.com]

and [link to fourwinds10.com]

The scrolls were unearthed in the 1960's along with the shroud.
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
As a Christian, it doesn't make or break my Faith one way or the other.

Even so, it lines up with the Sudarium too closely to dismiss as an outright fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6013727


I double THIS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


Do you "double" the first sentence, the second or both?
 Quoting: Who.


All ac said.
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dear one, the shroud itself is REAL.
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No waaaaay! (sarcasm)

Ok, it exists, but it's a painting, it's not the imprint of a real person.
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
To O_o or not to O_o?
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
As a Christian, it doesn't make or break my Faith one way or the other.

Even so, it lines up with the Sudarium too closely to dismiss as an outright fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6013727


I double THIS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


Do you "double" the first sentence, the second or both?
 Quoting: Who.


All ac said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


At any rate, check what I replied to him.
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
To O_o or not to O_o?
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
As a Christian, it doesn't make or break my Faith one way or the other.

Even so, it lines up with the Sudarium too closely to dismiss as an outright fake.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6013727


I double THIS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326


Do you "double" the first sentence, the second or both?
 Quoting: Who.


All ac said.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090326



hf
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
dear one, the shroud itself is REAL.
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No waaaaay! (sarcasm)

Ok, it exists, but it's a painting, it's not the imprint of a real person.
 Quoting: Who.


no see my other post, you are the one in error. I happen to KNOW of what I speak.
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
dear one, the shroud itself is REAL.
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No waaaaay! (sarcasm)

Ok, it exists, but it's a painting, it's not the imprint of a real person.
 Quoting: Who.


no see my other post, you are the one in error. I happen to KNOW of what I speak.
 Quoting: Nobody in Particular


It's a painting.
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
To O_o or not to O_o?
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A relatively recent new:

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

Gimme an F. Gimme an A. Gimme a K. Gimme an E. FAAAAAAAAAAKE!
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"wisdom"......riiiggghhht OP.


"Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation."
St. John Chrysostom
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"wisdom"......riiiggghhht OP.


"Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation."
St. John Chrysostom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5153500


I'm not sure if you know why I chose those specific words. Please, read the OP or ask if you don't know.

Otherwise, your post doesn't make sense (if you don't explain).
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
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It is not a MODERN fake at least.
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It is not a MODERN fake at least.
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"At least"? Like, it deserves more praise or less criticism just because it's not modern?

It's a fraud and this is what matters, since some people still want to consider it a true relic.

Last Edited by Who. on 11/29/2011 09:30 PM
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"wisdom"......riiiggghhht OP.


"Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation."
St. John Chrysostom
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I'm not sure if you know why I chose those specific words. Please, read the OP or ask if you don't know.

Otherwise, your post doesn't make sense (if you don't explain).
 Quoting: Who.


You're going down the wrong road.

The Shroud is REAL Who. Science doesn't know how the
image came about. It's been tested and tested.
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I strongly believe in Jesus Christ but it is not only mine the opinion that the "Sacred Shroud" is representing in reality the face of Leonardo da Vinci. Try yourself in google images and search "da vinci sindone" or "da vinci shroud" to see the similarity of the two faces. Leonardo da Vinci died in the same area where the sacred shroud was found in about the same years (Leonardo died in 1519 in France and the sacred shroud was "saved" from the fire of the Sainte Chapelle du Saint Suaire near Lyon in 1532. Leonardo has lived some time in Lyon before die. Leonardo in the last years did experiments of impressions of images over canvas using sunlight and mirrors). I think the real Sacred Shroud is not the one exposed in Turin or it has been burned in the fire in 1532.
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How Jesus' image was burned into that cloth, and how it has survived these 2000 years is nothing short of miraculous.


Review the Gospel accounts of the Shroud of Turin.

“Taking the body, Joseph wrapped it in fresh linen…” Matthew 27:59

“Then, having brought a linen shroud, Joseph took Him down, wrapped Him in the linen, and laid Him in a tomb which had been cut out of rock.” Mark 15:46

“He took it down (the body of Jesus), wrapped it in fine linen, and laid it in a tomb hewn out of the rock, in which no one had yet been buried.” Luke 23:53.

“He (Peter) stooped down, but could see nothing but the linen cloth.” Luke 24:12

“He (John) did not enter but bent down to peer in and saw the linen wrappings lying there.” John 20:5

The Shroud of Turin, or linen cloth, is mentioned in each of the Evangelists’ accounts of the death and burial of Jesus.

It is never mentioned again, which makes sense because the cloth’s importance was completely overshadowed by the surge of energy which brought the life of Our Savior back into His body.

But logic dictates, His followers did not just leave the cloth there on the ground, to be thrown away.

This was the cloth which held the body of Jesus.
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"wisdom"......riiiggghhht OP.


"Nothing is more miserable than those people who never failed to attack their own salvation."
St. John Chrysostom
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5153500


I'm not sure if you know why I chose those specific words. Please, read the OP or ask if you don't know.

Otherwise, your post doesn't make sense (if you don't explain).
 Quoting: Who.


You're going down the wrong road.

The Shroud is REAL Who. Science doesn't know how the
image came about. It's been tested and tested.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5153500


Have you read all the links I provided in the first post?

Don't you see with your own eyes that the image is not anatomically correct?

It's a picture!
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
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I strongly believe in Jesus Christ but it is not only mine the opinion that the "Sacred Shroud" is representing in reality the face of Leonardo da Vinci. Try yourself in google images and search "da vinci sindone" or "da vinci shroud" to see the similarity of the two faces. Leonardo da Vinci died in the same area where the sacred shroud was found in about the same years (Leonardo died in 1519 in France and the sacred shroud was "saved" from the fire of the Sainte Chapelle du Saint Suaire near Lyon in 1532. Leonardo has lived some time in Lyon before die. Leonardo in the last years did experiments of impressions of images over canvas using sunlight and mirrors). I think the real Sacred Shroud is not the one exposed in Turin or it has been burned in the fire in 1532.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6262367


Well, that's an interesting piece of information.

However, I guess that we can only suppose if this theory is true.
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
How Jesus' image was burned into that cloth, and how it has survived these 2000 years is nothing short of miraculous.


Review the Gospel accounts of the Shroud of Turin.

“Taking the body, Joseph wrapped it in fresh linen…” Matthew 27:59

“Then, having brought a linen shroud, Joseph took Him down, wrapped Him in the linen, and laid Him in a tomb which had been cut out of rock.” Mark 15:46

“He took it down (the body of Jesus), wrapped it in fine linen, and laid it in a tomb hewn out of the rock, in which no one had yet been buried.” Luke 23:53.

“He (Peter) stooped down, but could see nothing but the linen cloth.” Luke 24:12

“He (John) did not enter but bent down to peer in and saw the linen wrappings lying there.” John 20:5

The Shroud of Turin, or linen cloth, is mentioned in each of the Evangelists’ accounts of the death and burial of Jesus.

It is never mentioned again, which makes sense because the cloth’s importance was completely overshadowed by the surge of energy which brought the life of Our Savior back into His body.

But logic dictates, His followers did not just leave the cloth there on the ground, to be thrown away.

This was the cloth which held the body of Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5153500


You're so wrong.

First, you call that miraculous because YOU ASSUME this is not fake. If you assume this is a painting, it's not miraculous at all and you can find another explanation.

Moreover, the Bible doesn't mention the Shroud of Turin! The Gospels mention that Jesus was wrapped in a linen cloth (which was a common practice) and this is not proof of the Shroud of Turin being THAT shroud. Elementary logic.
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
To O_o or not to O_o?
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I 5 stared your thread
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Re: "Words of wisdom": the shroud of Turin is a fake.
How Jesus' image was burned into that cloth, and how it has survived these 2000 years is nothing short of miraculous.


Review the Gospel accounts of the Shroud of Turin.

“Taking the body, Joseph wrapped it in fresh linen…” Matthew 27:59

“Then, having brought a linen shroud, Joseph took Him down, wrapped Him in the linen, and laid Him in a tomb which had been cut out of rock.” Mark 15:46

“He took it down (the body of Jesus), wrapped it in fine linen, and laid it in a tomb hewn out of the rock, in which no one had yet been buried.” Luke 23:53.

“He (Peter) stooped down, but could see nothing but the linen cloth.” Luke 24:12

“He (John) did not enter but bent down to peer in and saw the linen wrappings lying there.” John 20:5

The Shroud of Turin, or linen cloth, is mentioned in each of the Evangelists’ accounts of the death and burial of Jesus.

It is never mentioned again, which makes sense because the cloth’s importance was completely overshadowed by the surge of energy which brought the life of Our Savior back into His body.

But logic dictates, His followers did not just leave the cloth there on the ground, to be thrown away.

This was the cloth which held the body of Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5153500


+1

Over 100,000 labor hours and science still cannot explain it. Open your heart to Jesus Christ and be saved!

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I 5 stared your thread
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Thank you. :-)
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How Jesus' image was burned into that cloth, and how it has survived these 2000 years is nothing short of miraculous.


Review the Gospel accounts of the Shroud of Turin.

“Taking the body, Joseph wrapped it in fresh linen…” Matthew 27:59

“Then, having brought a linen shroud, Joseph took Him down, wrapped Him in the linen, and laid Him in a tomb which had been cut out of rock.” Mark 15:46

“He took it down (the body of Jesus), wrapped it in fine linen, and laid it in a tomb hewn out of the rock, in which no one had yet been buried.” Luke 23:53.

“He (Peter) stooped down, but could see nothing but the linen cloth.” Luke 24:12

“He (John) did not enter but bent down to peer in and saw the linen wrappings lying there.” John 20:5

The Shroud of Turin, or linen cloth, is mentioned in each of the Evangelists’ accounts of the death and burial of Jesus.

It is never mentioned again, which makes sense because the cloth’s importance was completely overshadowed by the surge of energy which brought the life of Our Savior back into His body.

But logic dictates, His followers did not just leave the cloth there on the ground, to be thrown away.

This was the cloth which held the body of Jesus.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5153500


+1

Over 100,000 labor hours and science still cannot explain it. Open your heart to Jesus Christ and be saved!

red_heart
 Quoting: Once4All


Sometimes I wonder if you actually know how laughable your posts are, little idolater man.
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
To O_o or not to O_o?
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The shroud of Turin is what keeps you awake at night?
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The shroud of Turin is what keeps you awake at night?
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Uh, nope.

And what about you? What keeps you awake at night? :-D
Weirdness isn't weird, here.
So... no need to go "O_o"... but I can't help going O_o the most of the time!
To O_o or not to O_o?





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