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This is the exact date of Jesus' birth! I Figured it out!

 
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This is the exact date of Jesus' birth! I Figured it out!
For those who have puzzled on this as I have...

It suddenly dawned on me why people are not reconciling the two infancy narratives in the gospels relating to Jesus' birth. The key to understanding this is one simple but overlooked fact...The first christmas WAS NOT jesus' birthday!"

Look at the scripture and see for yourself:

Mattew 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

...So Herod sends the wisemen to bethlehem (which is a little town only 5 miles away from jerusalem)to find the messiah and report back. Do you think he waited around TWO YEARS and said..."hmmm they should be along any minute now, where are they???"

Of course not, that means that the wise men Did not visit Jesus until almost two years after his birth!"

Thats why Herod slew children two and under. Because he sent the wisemen to bethlehem a few miles away and when they did not come back right away, he killed all those who were born within the first appearing of the christmas star TWO YEARS PRIOR.

So the first christmas was nothing more than The wisemen bringing gifts and to worship the messiah...and these gifts were presented to him on Dec. 25th, 1 b.c., when jesus was not quite two years old.

That being the case, everything else in the gospel accounts about Jesus' birth now fit together perfectly not only with each other but with history too! check it out:

Herod was said to die sometime after a lunar eclipse but before passover (as recorded by josephus). BUT if you read the account of the events that surround this eclipse as written by josephus, only one possible eclipse can fit!

Dec. 29th 1 B.C.

Why? Because did two things on the day of this eclipse...he executed some rebels and also removed the High Priest Mathias from his office for two reasons 1. Sympathizing with the rebels and 2.
failing in his duties on a resent jewish fast day

There was a fast day just 4 days earlier in 1 B.C. known as the 10th of AV. Lunar eclipses can only happen on a full moon and the 14th of the jewish month av is set by the coming of the full moon.

So the jewish holy day fasting that Josephus was referring to must be the 10th of Av which in 1 B.C. fell on DECEMBER 25th!


That night Joseph was warned in a dream to get up and flee into egypt. Herod sent murderers to slay all the children two and other in that area. Because Jerusalem was only 5 miles away, this threat would have been immediate had they not fled.

Now Josephus notes that from this time onward until his death, Herod became exceedingly wroth, full of rage and deranged, and suffered a horrible disease which eventually killed him...and know we know why. This change in him began when he slaughtered the children beginning on Dec. 25th!

The Gifts that the wisemen brought that day were gold, frankinsence and myrrh. Myrrh in partucular were used by the egyptions for mummifying and embalming the dead. There was a trade route for these spices that ran from the red sea coast of arbia up through Siania into egypt. The gifts of the wisemen would have been the perfect gifts needed for Mary and Joseph to trade with passing caravans in order to survive in the wilderness of Egypt on the edge of the Sinai peninsula.

SO, if jesus wasn't born on Dec. 25th, when was he born?

The answer is June 17th 2 B.C....and he was concieved by the holy spirit on 9/11 3 B.C.

How do we know? because his star, the sign in the heaven, matches these dates exactly. With the astrological sign in the book of revelation (The woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet and her head of twelve stars) is the constellation virgo and this sign appears on 9/11 of 3 B.C., then Jupiter, regulas (the king star) and venus all intersect to make the christmas star on June 17th 2 B.C....then Jupiter performs a precession where it advances and retraces its path then stops and advances again. This would have been directly visible ahead in the sky looking south on the road from Jerusalem to Bethlehem in late december of 1 B.C....and the day that Jupiter "Stops" and turns to move back the otherway would have been the date of DEC 25th 1 B.C.! It all matches perfectly!

So it went like this...

1. The 3 wisemen saw the sign in the heavens of the birth of the messiah in Babylon Iraq...on that same day Jesus was conceived (9/11 3 B.C.)
2. They see the star of the birth of the messiah (June 17th 2 B.C. the day of his birth).
3. Jesus is circumsized 8 days later and then 33 days after that Joseph and Mary give an offering for the rights of purification in the temple in Jerusalem. (Their offering is the one that the poor are allowed to give, so apparently they are poor). They then Either go to Nazerath and come back at some point in the next 2 years, or remain in Bethlehem for 1 or 2 years until Dec. 25th 1 B.C.

3. They head to Jerusalem, a journey of many months, and arrive in Bethlehem on christmas 1 B.C. with the gifts that Mary, Joseph and Jesus need to survive in the wildreness - (remember they were poor as per their offering). That night, they fled to the wilderness of the egyptian borderland, just outside of Herod's jurisdiction.

4. Herod slays the children, goes insane with rage and dies of a horrible disease with a few months time, at the very least before passover 1 A.D.

5. Joseph and Mary return but are warned again to not go to Judea, they goto nazareth instead. There they raise Jesus.

Jesus Begins his ministry about 29/30.a.d. Dies on April 3, 33 A.D. (passover) two months shy of his 34th birthday, on the date of a solar eclipse. He is resurrected on the 3rd day.
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For those who have puzzled on this as I have...

It suddenly dawned on me why people are not reconciling the two infancy narratives in the gospels relating to Jesus' birth. The key to understanding this is one simple but overlooked fact...The first christmas WAS NOT jesus' birthday!"

Look at the scripture and see for yourself:

Mattew 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

...So Herod sends the wisemen to bethlehem (which is a little town only 5 miles away from jerusalem)to find the messiah and report back. Do you think he waited around TWO YEARS and said..."hmmm they should be along any minute now, where are they???"

Of course not, that means that the wise men Did not visit Jesus until almost two years after his birth!"
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Couldn't it just mean that he slaughtered all the little children to try to be sure? There's nothing in there that says they must have waited 2 years.
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For those who have puzzled on this as I have...

It suddenly dawned on me why people are not reconciling the two infancy narratives in the gospels relating to Jesus' birth. The key to understanding this is one simple but overlooked fact...The first christmas WAS NOT jesus' birthday!"

Look at the scripture and see for yourself:

Mattew 2:16 Then Herod, when he saw that he was mocked of the wise men, was exceeding wroth, and sent forth, and slew all the children that were in Bethlehem, and in all the coasts thereof, from two years old and under, according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men.

...So Herod sends the wisemen to bethlehem (which is a little town only 5 miles away from jerusalem)to find the messiah and report back. Do you think he waited around TWO YEARS and said..."hmmm they should be along any minute now, where are they???"

Of course not, that means that the wise men Did not visit Jesus until almost two years after his birth!"
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Couldn't it just mean that he slaughtered all the little children to try to be sure? There's nothing in there that says they must have waited 2 years.
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No because the verse said that he did so "according to the time which he had diligently enquired of the wise men." and that sign appeared on June 17th 2 b.c. so obviously he considered this to be the birth day.
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Re: This is the exact date of Jesus' birth! I Figured it out!
December 22, 14BC
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not even close
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Here you go.... already figured out:


Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on.

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December 22, 14BC
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not even close
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Really?

I wonder what the secret books and documents in the Vatican Archives say.
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I'll take gods signs in the heavens over vatican books any day
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If you are so confident why not create a .tex file with your findings and send it off to a journal?
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If you are so confident why not create a .tex file with your findings and send it off to a journal?
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good idea as long as its not for profit (I hate it when people try to sell the gift of the gospel for mammon). Or just post it on the internet. However it gets told, I am happy as long as its shared
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If you are so confident why not create a .tex file with your findings and send it off to a journal?
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good idea as long as its not for profit (I hate it when people try to sell the gift of the gospel for mammon). Or just post it on the internet. However it gets told, I am happy as long as its shared
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This is the LaTeX editor that I use
[link to www.xm1math.net]
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"Jesus ben Pandira. A wonder-worker during the reign of Alexander Jannaeus (106-79 BC), one of the most ruthless of the Maccabean kings. Imprudently, this Jesus launched into a career of end-time prophecy and agitation which upset the king. He met his own premature end-time by being hung on a tree and on the eve of a Passover. Scholars have speculated this Jesus founded the Essene sect."
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April in the year 1 A.D.

Do you know what day?

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As an aside note, The 10th of tevet the the last of 3 jewish fast days in a row (8th, 9th and 10th). The 10th in 1 B.C. was December 25th.

This year it those dates are dec. 11th 12th and 13th.

On dec. 10th of this year there will be a Lunar eclipse.
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April in the year 1 A.D.

Do you know what day?
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Day of what? Do you mean Herods death that year? or the passover? or?
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April in the year 1 A.D.

Do you know what day?
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Day of what? Do you mean Herods death that year? or the passover? or?
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the exact date of Jesus' birth!

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April in the year 1 A.D.

Do you know what day?
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Day of what? Do you mean Herods death that year? or the passover? or?
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the exact date of Jesus' birth!

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June 17th 2 B.C.
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wow that is amazing if He was conceived by the Holy Spirit on 9/11 of 3 bc. as i have been trying to tell people for years that 9/11 was the beginning of judgment on this nation for killing children by abortion and providing many proofs of that fact. if 9/11 is also the day He was conceived then the significance goes far beyond the obvious events of the attacks and targets of the day. and since it occurred on the day of conception it again screams that a child in the womb is a full person worthy of every protection the same as a born child. YAH has confirmed His judgment over and over and this is an astounding confirmation again. thank u for posting it.
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June 17th 2 B.C.
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Nope wrong,

The Lord has revealed it

See 3rd post in this thread

Thread: Tremendous doom foretold is about to unfold - El Hierro

for a record of confirmations.
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Assuming you're right, OP, what are you going to use this information for?
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Assuming you're right, OP, what are you going to use this information for?
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just to share, and spread the gospel





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