Is it still wrong if another culture says it is right? A teacher’s surprising discovery | |
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Weltsmertz User ID: 1280572 United States 12/04/2011 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an example why one should never send their children to public schools. Quoting: samanthasunflower RIGHT!!!!!! A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything. Friedrich Nietzsche if I did not feel so sad as I look at them. Sad because they do not know the truth and I do know it. Oh, how hard it is to be the only one who knows the truth! But they won't understand that. No, they won't understand it." --from The Dream of a Ridiculous Man (1877) |
Abs User ID: 3886217 United States 12/04/2011 11:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thebestschools.org] Quoting: Vast Deferens I decided to open by simply displaying, without comment, the photo of Bibi Aisha. Aisha was the Afghani teenager who was forced into an abusive marriage with a Taliban fighter, who abused her and kept her with his animals. When she attempted to flee, her family caught her, hacked off her nose and ears, and left her for dead in the mountains. After crawling to her grandfather’s house, she was saved by a nearby American hospital. I felt quite sure that my students, seeing the suffering of this poor girl of their own age, would have a clear ethical reaction, from which we could build toward more difficult cases. The picture is horrific. Aisha’s beautiful eyes stare hauntingly back at you above the mangled hole that was once her nose. Some of my students could not even raise their eyes to look at it. I could see that many were experiencing deep emotions. But I was not prepared for their reaction. I had expected strong aversion; but that’s not what I got. Instead, they became confused. They seemed not to know what to think. They spoke timorously, afraid to make any moral judgment at all. They were unwilling to criticize any situation originating in a different culture. They said, “Well, we might not like it, but maybe over there it’s okay.” One student said, “I don’t feel anything at all; I see lots of this kind of stuff .” Another said (with no consciousness of self-contradiction), “It’s just wrong to judge other cultures.” A rock and a hard place.....because of being instantaneously in the know of what is going on in another location, no mater how far it is from us, we have had to step back and be accepting of our inability to do anything. Some don't and devote their lives in righting wrongs against humans, with our perception of freedoms, given to us by God, as their moral backbone. We used to read it at history, where we couldn't do anything. It is much different now. As above, so below. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 12/04/2011 11:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | EDIT TO ADD: Google is my friend. [link to thebestschools.org] Last Edited by Sir Phydeau on 12/04/2011 11:46 PM "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
no-one-special User ID: 6478278 United States 12/04/2011 11:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Acceptance of other cultures, also means acceptance of the sever wrongls of other cultures. What more can you expect when they have grown up there whole life being told things like tolerance, acceptance of those different, and to not judge other cultures who have odd ways and customes. You get teenagers who think it is okay to mutilate women just because a male dominated, oppressive society says so. Parents need to be a bigger influence in the education and morals of there children. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 12/04/2011 11:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting article ... good find. 5* for you. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 12/04/2011 11:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Acceptance of other cultures, also means acceptance of the sever wrongls of other cultures. What more can you expect when they have grown up there whole life being told things like tolerance, acceptance of those different, and to not judge other cultures who have odd ways and customes. You get teenagers who think it is okay to mutilate women just because a male dominated, oppressive society says so. Quoting: no-one-special Parents need to be a bigger influence in the education and morals of there children. What are "sever wrongls" and why would I accept them? "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1286515 United States 12/05/2011 12:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to thebestschools.org] Quoting: Vast Deferens I decided to open by simply displaying, without comment, the photo of Bibi Aisha. Aisha was the Afghani teenager who was forced into an abusive marriage with a Taliban fighter, who abused her and kept her with his animals. When she attempted to flee, her family caught her, hacked off her nose and ears, and left her for dead in the mountains. After crawling to her grandfather’s house, she was saved by a nearby American hospital. I felt quite sure that my students, seeing the suffering of this poor girl of their own age, would have a clear ethical reaction, from which we could build toward more difficult cases. The picture is horrific. Aisha’s beautiful eyes stare hauntingly back at you above the mangled hole that was once her nose. Some of my students could not even raise their eyes to look at it. I could see that many were experiencing deep emotions. But I was not prepared for their reaction. I had expected strong aversion; but that’s not what I got. Instead, they became confused. They seemed not to know what to think. They spoke timorously, afraid to make any moral judgment at all. They were unwilling to criticize any situation originating in a different culture. They said, “Well, we might not like it, but maybe over there it’s okay.” One student said, “I don’t feel anything at all; I see lots of this kind of stuff .” Another said (with no consciousness of self-contradiction), “It’s just wrong to judge other cultures.” That pretty much says it...we have created wussified shit'tards as our next generation. We're all fucked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1507912 United States 12/05/2011 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are the same type of kids that could grow up and say, if another Hitler came to power that, it is alright because of culture. This teacher should have set them straight! It is not right in any culture to maim and torture people and they are wrong to think it is OK. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1286515 United States 12/05/2011 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These are the same type of kids that could grow up and say, if another Hitler came to power that, it is alright because of culture. Quoting: Daughter This teacher should have set them straight! It is not right in any culture to maim and torture people and they are wrong to think it is OK. Let teachers lay down the law...and beat these little sons of bitches into submission, with a paddle with holes drilled in it (to reduce wind resistance)...I'm sure they'd shape up real quick. |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 12/05/2011 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with a paddle with holes drilled in it (to reduce wind resistance) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286515 Actually, the holes are so bits of ass poke through them and cause MASSIVE bruising. Wind resistance has nothing to do with it. Especially when you consider that over a distance of around 4 feet of motion, wind resistance doesn't even enter the picture. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6555160 Australia 12/05/2011 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know where the confusion emminates from however the answer is to teach our children that ANYTHING that hurts another human being or entity is WRONG period! If you would not like it happening to you dont do it to another. that has no religious connotations just simple respect for life. Maybe some cultures dont respect life as others do. There is a tribe in south america who commit suicide when their bodies start to age and cause porblems. It is accepted and there are NO elders in their tribe. They live a short and fulfilling happy life and die happy to have lived the life they have. Is this wrong? In my culture we look after our elders and respect them for giving us the country we now have. No it cannot be right to hack of someones nose, especially someone who you have authority over in some way. Men..... thats all I have to say. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1286515 United States 12/05/2011 12:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with a paddle with holes drilled in it (to reduce wind resistance) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286515 Actually, the holes are so bits of ass poke through them and cause MASSIVE bruising. Wind resistance has nothing to do with it. Especially when you consider that over a distance of around 4 feet of motion, wind resistance doesn't even enter the picture. When it connects with the ass, I would say so. I see a benefit in allowing the air to 'pass through' during impact. Well whatever the case...As long as it causes MASSIVE pain, then the objective is complete |
Sir Phydeau User ID: 5465427 United States 12/05/2011 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well whatever the case...As long as it causes MASSIVE pain, then the objective is complete Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286515 lol ... touche. "When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?" — John M. Keynes "The way to see by [blind] faith is to shut the eye of reason." - Benjamin Franklin Real men keep Torah. Knighted into the Army of Yahuwah on 10-9-10. Dear disaffected Democrats: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our social tolerance delightful. However in exchange for this, you're going to have to find a way to be ok with people keeping their guns and more of their money. Dear disaffected Republicans: Welcome to the Libertarian Party, we think you will find our small government economic policies to your liking. However in exchange you will have to find a way to be ok with "the gays" getting married. Snacks are on the table, help yourself. Please introduce yourself to someone on "the other side", you might be astonished just how much you actually have in common. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6555160 Australia 12/05/2011 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is it that the new generation has been brainwashed into believing making moral judgement is wrong? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6555160 I know where the confusion emminates from however the answer is to teach our children that ANYTHING that hurts another human being or entity is WRONG period! If you would not like it happening to you dont do it to another. that has no religious connotations just simple respect for life. Maybe some cultures dont respect life as others do. There is a tribe in south america who commit suicide when their bodies start to age and cause porblems. It is accepted and there are NO elders in their tribe. They live a short and fulfilling happy life and die happy to have lived the life they have. Is this wrong? In my culture we look after our elders and respect them for giving us the country we now have. No it cannot be right to hack of someones nose, especially someone who you have authority over in some way. Men..... thats all I have to say. And no I didnt look at the picture..... I dont need that image imprinted in my memory thanks. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1733274 Poland 12/05/2011 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | just GTFO and leave ppl and other countries alone no wonder they wanna kill every one of you all over the world wherever you go - they hate you cause you think you are so super, uber and everybody should be like you its none of your business - if they grow up and change that its they own choice and try to see if everything about you and how you behave is so ok in other parts of this world btw [link to www.stopthehunger.com] |
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anon User ID: 6368258 Mexico 12/05/2011 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | another example of superior US culture lol Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1733274 just GTFO and leave ppl and other countries alone no wonder they wanna kill every one of you all over the world wherever you go - they hate you cause you think you are so super, uber and everybody should be like you its none of your business - if they grow up and change that its they own choice and try to see if everything about you and how you behave is so ok in other parts of this world btw [link to www.stopthehunger.com] it's nothing to do with nationalism or culturism. it is simply personal conscienceness to recognize injustice when one encounters it, it is the mark of humaneness to care for an other's suffering especially at the hands of brute force no more highly evolved than a reptile. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6086126 United States 12/05/2011 12:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For idiots here is a real watered down simple version of what is right and what is wrong. Pain is bad. It does not feel good because you are not supposed to do it. Love feels good, because you are supposed to do it. |
ScrumpTheTexan Forum Administrator User ID: 2691183 United States 12/05/2011 01:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is an example why one should never send their children to public schools. Quoting: samanthasunflower ^That^ I am a Christian. Christian does not equal doormat or pushover "I Have Sworn upon the Altar of God... Eternal Hostility against every form of Tyranny over the mind of man." -Thomas Jefferson, Sep. 23, 1800 The Election of Donald John Trump: [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] For previous Newsletters, click 'Scrump's News Letters' @ [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4736379 United States 12/05/2011 01:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The teacher is the kind that brings up social issues, shows a dramatic example, and tries to brainwash our youth just like they do with civil rights, animal abuse, and war. Fuck political correctness and these biased "philosophers" |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 5541628 Germany 12/05/2011 01:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with a paddle with holes drilled in it (to reduce wind resistance) Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1286515 Actually, the holes are so bits of ass poke through them and cause MASSIVE bruising. Wind resistance has nothing to do with it. Especially when you consider that over a distance of around 4 feet of motion, wind resistance doesn't even enter the picture. When it connects with the ass, I would say so. I see a benefit in allowing the air to 'pass through' during impact. Well whatever the case...As long as it causes MASSIVE pain, then the objective is complete this discussion was better than the original post |
Disillusionig User ID: 3986843 United States 12/05/2011 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, but those kids are right. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4736379 The teacher is the kind that brings up social issues, shows a dramatic example, and tries to brainwash our youth just like they do with civil rights, animal abuse, and war. Fuck political correctness and these biased "philosophers" I have to agree. Yes by any means of judging human rights this is an atrocity. However, we cannot fully understand this behavior growing up differently. For example to turn the tables, in other countries one might think the us severly violates human rights by putting people in jail for up to 15 years for a certain amount of marijuana. To us it's understandable and seems ok, to other never growing up with that mind set or culture it's crazy. Sure the two are different but do you see the point? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6496844 Australia 12/05/2011 01:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | These savage countries frequently, and quite vocally criticise the Western world - or more particularly, Western women, and yet we are shot down for voicing dislike about the way they treat their fellow man. I hope God comes down soon to smite the shit off the face of the earth. Regardless of race. |
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