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OBAMA Fraud: SSN 042-68-4425

 
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OBAMA Fraud: SSN 042-68-4425
An intensive investigation has revealed the identity of the man whose Social Security number (SSN) is being used by President Obama: Jean Paul Ludwig, who was born in France in 1890, immigrated to the United States in 1924, and was assigned SSN 042-68-4425 (Obama's current SSN) on or about March, 1977.

Ludwig lived most of his adult life in Connecticut . Because of that, his SSN begins with the digits 042, which are among only a select few reserved for Connecticut residents.

Obama never lived or worked in that state! Therefore, there is no reason on earth for his SSN to start with the digits 042. None whatsoever!

Now comes the best part! Ludwig spent the final months of his life in Hawaii, where he died.

Conveniently, Obama's grandmother, Madelyn Payne Dunham, worked part-time in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse, and therefore had access to the SSNs of deceased individuals.

The Social Security Administration was never informed of Ludwig's death, and because he never received Social Security benefits there were no benefits to stop and therefore, no questions were ever raised.
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amerikans are too stupid and lazy to even care about how important this is.they are too busy watching football and tv.
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Source?
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From a tweet. It is not a copyrighted piece.
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So you're saying that Obama's birthdate is 1890? Birthdates are recorded with an SSN so unless someone in the Social Security Administration "reset" the SSN and recorded Obama's birthdate then this is

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Source?
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From a tweet. It is not a copyrighted piece.
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PS. Facts belong to NOBODY.
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[link to ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com]

That person died in1981 in Hawaii and the SSN does not match your claim.
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Actually if this is in fact Obama's SSN then something is rotten in Denmark because the person that had this SSN died in 1981 and Obama was born in 1961 which means that his SSN should have been issued around that time. How do we know for a fact that this is his SSN?
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Re: OBAMA Fraud: SSN 042-68-4425
[link to ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com]

That person died in1981 in Hawaii and the SSN does not match your claim.
 Quoting: oldmotherfucktard



the premise of the post is that the SSN in question has no death index record

posting unrelated yet similar info in no way invalidates the original premise of the OP


boy are you dumb!
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BTW, your straw man bullshit post is in regards to SSN 045-26-8722


who do you expect to convince except the typical obamabot anyway?


boy are you dumb!
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BTW, your straw man bullshit post is in regards to SSN 045-26-8722


who do you expect to convince except the typical obamabot anyway?


boy are you dumb!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


Good catch. I didn't even notice that.
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Re: OBAMA Fraud: SSN 042-68-4425
[link to ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com]

That person died in1981 in Hawaii and the SSN does not match your claim.
 Quoting: oldmotherfucktard



the premise of the post is that the SSN in question has no death index record

posting unrelated yet similar info in no way invalidates the original premise of the OP


boy are you dumb!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


I'm not saying that the president hasn't fudged some type of records, and I'm not saying his SSN is not (or is for that matter) fake.

I'm simply Giving extra information, so take it as you wish-A SSDI report for person (named in OP) with same DOB, same place of birth and same Place of death but a different social.

When you are in search of the truth you often find dead end roads, you have to search every possibility and eliminate any thing that can debunk your theory.

The story the OP posted has been going around for about the last 6 months via email.



And you are calling me dumb?
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Oldmotherhubbard

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BTW, your straw man bullshit post is in regards to SSN 045-26-8722


who do you expect to convince except the typical obamabot anyway?


boy are you dumb!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


Did you read my post? Because I said DIFFERENT SSN
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And you are calling me dumb?
 Quoting: oldmunkeyhubwart



not at all, simply a rhetorical question with an implied answer


by intentionally confusing the issue by referencing a similar name with a different SSN, it is obvious that you are dumb


alternately, stupid or dishonest, take your pick


see, I'm easy to get along with!
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And you are calling me dumb?
 Quoting: oldmunkeyhubwart



not at all, simply a rhetorical question with an implied answer


by intentionally confusing the issue by referencing a similar name with a different SSN, it is obvious that you are dumb


alternately, stupid or dishonest, take your pick


see, I'm easy to get along with!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


obviously you can read since you are here on a forum that requires that. So go back, slow down and read.

I mentioned the SSN(in my link) for the person named in OP does not match that of the OPs claim.

I'd love nothing more than for someone to be able to prove without a shadow of doubt that O has lied/forged/committed fraud. The harsh reality is, you don't know what is real and what is jot because you have no way of knowing what has been changed/censored by the Gov't to protect him.

Then even when someone CAN prove matter of fact at that he is one of those, what's the chances something will get done about it? Probably none, because they (gov't) are all in it together.

This blog has done some extensive research [link to cdrkerchner.wordpress.com]

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obviously you can read since you are here on a forum that requires that. So go back, slow down and read.

I mentioned the SSN(in my link) for the person named in OP does not match that of the OPs claim.

I'd love nothing more than for someone to be able to prove without a shadow of doubt that O has lied/forged/committed fraud. The harsh reality is, you don't know what is real and what is jot because you have no way of knowing what has been changed/censored by the Gov't to protect him.

Then even when someone CAN prove matter of fact at that he is one of those, what's the chances something will get done about it? Probably none, because they (gov't) are all in it together.
 Quoting: 723



ha ha, now you are backpedaling at impressive speed!


what you did is like an investigator who has a John Q. Smith in a red car and a purple hat at the crime scene,...


but wait....we have a John L Smith in a green truck two states away.........maybe he did it?




yup, total confusion and obfuscation


stupid or agenda


likely both
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obviously you can read since you are here on a forum that requires that. So go back, slow down and read.

I mentioned the SSN(in my link) for the person named in OP does not match that of the OPs claim.

I'd love nothing more than for someone to be able to prove without a shadow of doubt that O has lied/forged/committed fraud. The harsh reality is, you don't know what is real and what is jot because you have no way of knowing what has been changed/censored by the Gov't to protect him.

Then even when someone CAN prove matter of fact at that he is one of those, what's the chances something will get done about it? Probably none, because they (gov't) are all in it together.
 Quoting: 723



ha ha, now you are backpedaling at impressive speed!


what you did is like an investigator who has a John Q. Smith in a red car and a purple hat at the crime scene,...


but wait....we have a John L Smith in a green truck two states away.........maybe he did it?




yup, total confusion and obfuscation


stupid or agenda


likely both
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


Oh FFS you fool, we are on the same side. Read and comprehend.
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Actually if this is in fact Obama's SSN then something is rotten in Denmark because the person that had this SSN died in 1981 and Obama was born in 1961 which means that his SSN should have been issued around that time. How do we know for a fact that this is his SSN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3693501


Tax return?
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obviously you can read since you are here on a forum that requires that. So go back, slow down and read.

I mentioned the SSN(in my link) for the person named in OP does not match that of the OPs claim.

I'd love nothing more than for someone to be able to prove without a shadow of doubt that O has lied/forged/committed fraud. The harsh reality is, you don't know what is real and what is jot because you have no way of knowing what has been changed/censored by the Gov't to protect him.

Then even when someone CAN prove matter of fact at that he is one of those, what's the chances something will get done about it? Probably none, because they (gov't) are all in it together.
 Quoting: 723



ha ha, now you are backpedaling at impressive speed!


what you did is like an investigator who has a John Q. Smith in a red car and a purple hat at the crime scene,...


but wait....we have a John L Smith in a green truck two states away.........maybe he did it?




yup, total confusion and obfuscation


stupid or agenda


likely both
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


Oh FFS you fool, we are on the same side. Read and comprehend.
 Quoting: Oldmotherhubbard


Thanks. Some people are so quick to pull out a gun. Please control your emotions all. I know we are all sick of the blatant corruption and it hurts us to see our friends and families blindly saying, "Thank you sir. May I have another."
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Oh FFS you fool, we are on the same side. Read and comprehend.
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bullshit.


you are an infiltrator, it is quite obvious


you intentionally confused the facts with irrelevant information


and if I am wrong, then you need to re-examine your methodology because given the slim possibility your goal is truth, your actions are counter-productive
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Re: OBAMA Fraud: SSN 042-68-4425
obviously you can read since you are here on a forum that requires that. So go back, slow down and read.

I mentioned the SSN(in my link) for the person named in OP does not match that of the OPs claim.

I'd love nothing more than for someone to be able to prove without a shadow of doubt that O has lied/forged/committed fraud. The harsh reality is, you don't know what is real and what is jot because you have no way of knowing what has been changed/censored by the Gov't to protect him.

Then even when someone CAN prove matter of fact at that he is one of those, what's the chances something will get done about it? Probably none, because they (gov't) are all in it together.
 Quoting: 723



ha ha, now you are backpedaling at impressive speed!


what you did is like an investigator who has a John Q. Smith in a red car and a purple hat at the crime scene,...


but wait....we have a John L Smith in a green truck two states away.........maybe he did it?




yup, total confusion and obfuscation


stupid or agenda


likely both
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


Oh FFS you fool, we are on the same side. Read and comprehend.
 Quoting: Oldmotherhubbard


Thanks. Some people are so quick to pull out a gun. Please control your emotions all. I know we are all sick of the blatant corruption and it hurts us to see our friends and families blindly saying, "Thank you sir. May I have another."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3697029


Op, you are so right.

It angers me that something that is so blantanly obvious to so many people come to dead end roads because of "cover up" operations and protection for the person doing wrong. Sadly unless someone in the absolute know steps up we will never know the truth 100%.
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Oh FFS you fool, we are on the same side. Read and comprehend.
 Quoting: OMH



bullshit.


you are an infiltrator, it is quite obvious


you intentionally confused the facts with irrelevant information


and if I am wrong, then you need to re-examine your methodology because given the slim possibility your goal is truth, your actions are counter-productive
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


You are very wrong.

Do you not think when coming to a factual conclusion you must look at your theory from all aspects?

There ARE parts of the OPs story that a very, very true. (042) is indeed a conneticut SSN.

It is all on the right track, I just think it's better to put ALL the info out there and look at it as a whole.

Therefore giving the SSDI for the person named in the OP you (again general) can come to your own conclusion. The story is false. The story is true with some inside cover-up work to debunk it. The story has both truth and false. I choose the latter of the options.

Somewhere within all the theories out there the truth IS to be found.
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So someone's accusing the O of being 121 years old? Kidding.

So was the O using a SSN prior to 77? If so, what/which SSN?

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You are very wrong.

Do you not think when coming to a factual conclusion you must look at your theory from all aspects?

There ARE parts of the OPs story that a very, very true. (042) is indeed a conneticut SSN.

It is all on the right track, I just think it's better to put ALL the info out there and look at it as a whole.

Therefore giving the SSDI for the person named in the OP you (again general) can come to your own conclusion. The story is false. The story is true with some inside cover-up work to debunk it. The story has both truth and false. I choose the latter of the options.

Somewhere within all the theories out there the truth IS to be found.
 Quoting: 723



OP began with a specific premise.


OP gave specific information regarding a certain number and name.

Rather than narrow the investigative window, you attempted to confuse the issue by promoting an alternative theory, less specific, and different number. This is counter-productive.


If we apply your theory of putting ALL the info out there, then my theory of your shillicity becomes startlingly relevant. So take your pick, investigate ALL possibilities, or narrow down the information to a proveably definity.


Start your own thread.

Your agenda is showing.
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You are very wrong.

Do you not think when coming to a factual conclusion you must look at your theory from all aspects?

There ARE parts of the OPs story that a very, very true. (042) is indeed a conneticut SSN.

It is all on the right track, I just think it's better to put ALL the info out there and look at it as a whole.

Therefore giving the SSDI for the person named in the OP you (again general) can come to your own conclusion. The story is false. The story is true with some inside cover-up work to debunk it. The story has both truth and false. I choose the latter of the options.

Somewhere within all the theories out there the truth IS to be found.
 Quoting: 723



OP began with a specific premise.


OP gave specific information regarding a certain number and name.

Rather than narrow the investigative window, you attempted to confuse the issue by promoting an alternative theory, less specific, and different number. This is counter-productive.


If we apply your theory of putting ALL the info out there, then my theory of your shillicity becomes startlingly relevant. So take your pick, investigate ALL possibilities, or narrow down the information to a proveably definity.


Start your own thread.

Your agenda is showing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1090769


I'm going to agree to disagree with you. You can think of me as you wish.
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I'm going to agree to disagree with you. You can think of me as you wish.
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fair enough, after all you seem to have accomplished your goal of derailing this thread


no matter, the truth will come out, I suppose we can agree on that

the sad part is that the more this issue is obfuscated and neutralized, the more time the evil one has to destroy

consider that you as well will be forced to deal with the cosequences of aforesaid, unless of course you gain by the policies of the destroyer


hey, what about Jean Luke Picard? theres a Jean!
be sure to investigate ALL possibilities!!!!!

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Actually if this is in fact Obama's SSN then something is rotten in Denmark because the person that had this SSN died in 1981 and Obama was born in 1961 which means that his SSN should have been issued around that time. How do we know for a fact that this is his SSN?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3693501


Nowadays you have to have a SSN to list a dependent child on the IRS forms. In days past, you only got a SSN when you were going to be earning $$$ and needed the number for reporting purposes. (Yes, I'm an oldie and only got my SSN when I was in college and needed one, so my number reflects my address in TX, not my birth in NY).

So, Obama may not have had one until he was older. It still doesn't reflect why it's from Connecticut if he didn't live there, work there, or study there.
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[link to searches.rootsweb.ancestry.com]

"Due to sensitivities around the information in this database, the Social Security Death Index collection is not available"



it's been pulled


censored



welcome to fascist America
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Try reading

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odance

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