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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1531907 United States 12/09/2011 09:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So, until that happens for you, you can have absolutely no idea. I\'d make a suggetion - if He hasn\'t called you and we are at this stage, you had better offer up a prayer to Him. He DOES answer. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 2561793 Netherlands 12/09/2011 09:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For you maybe, it is easier and maybe even more truthful, in seeing all these religious stories as just us describing technologies and flying machines from beings from space/sun/starts/sky. And you know, all stories say, 'one day they/it/he will be back'. So this is not a most illogical explanation for the reason of our religions existence and the social need to preserve the stories/knowledge. A lot of Godlike things happened 10.000-6.000 years ago. All corners of the earth tell about it, it was global. My most logical explanation is not that religion is fantasies for a human need to be protected or whatever, it was just really life, with technologies, from an other place than earth. Godlike things was seen from those who came from the sky/sun. They meddled with our affairs and even mated with our woman. They may even have did gene manipulation to make us a lot of like who we are. They created adam and from his rib took genes to make eve. Before that maybe we were a lot more animal/neanderthal like. But now we look 'in their image'. So there are more of our image.. But who knows what they put in our dna. Somewhere I heard we all got god source code in our dna so we are protected. Well, all this we will only know for sure when the mainstream media has an office of space affairs. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6800632 United States 12/09/2011 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are brain damaged. As children they were lied to in the most heinous way about the nature of reality and recovering from that takes incredibly high courage. Most people never recover and then inflict it on the next generation. The slow crawl away from the madness of religion is taking hundreds of years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2840313 ^this^ |
computer says no User ID: 4022355 United Kingdom 12/09/2011 09:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't do religion, religion doesn't do me. Both Religious & Athiests alike do not take responsibility for their own inner thoughts & actions, too cowardly to peep into their inner rabbit hole to embrace a limitless multiverse trapped by webs of negative memories & emotions. Can't deal with the the outer world either, just believe in what your told to believe in then, just do as the man in the suit says. It's not just TPTB who are maybe keen to keep religion & athiest beliefs alive & well, but even ordinary people.. quite a lot of them it would seem.. are apparently keen on putting their faith in smart suited-loud-well spoken members of authority who have the gift of the gab in assertive social power domination. Inventing a God, or Gods, backed up by muddled literature allegedly dictated by Gods/physical or quasi-energy/physical, with good, bad or indifferent intentions. Humans who could be bothered to learn how to read & write scribbled these ramblings down on thick delicate paper with feathers & injet pots, with those low power candles that kept going out when they sneezed. I don't like the way religous people force belief systems like religion/party political beliefs on their children. To me that's child abuse, as the child is being deprived of their true freedom to explore the world with a fully open mind of innocence & willingness to learn without judgement. This is why the same mistakes are made generation after generation, cos the kids are abused into accepting some social things they don't understand, not interested in.. & feel pissed off & rebelious about with being forced with this stuff in the first place, instead of being left alone. True belivers in God, neither believe in & also believe in God at the same time & inbetween at any given moment, accepting at least an energy-super-conscious supreme being gifted in science & art.. everything! in fact. The splinters of light from the intelligent conscious energy source pervuading all of 'everything' without linear time/space, cannot get through the thick coverings of material energy & conscious emotional energy swirls, trapped by their own heavy weight slower vibrational local density frequences. True enlightenment is to keep your child-conciousness active/real time aware, while keeping your adult consciousnes active/real time award at the same time as reaching inside yourself via 'breathing-meditation-kundalini' marrying the innocent learning wonder of a child while using the wisdom & knowledge of your adult consciousness to help you understand how to ascend further. Studied Kundalini, Hindu/Krishna/Buddhism, been a Catholic (forever! whether I like it or not.. umm.. apparently..), Church of England, maybe Protestent.. turned out to be mostly .. shit really! Liked Kundalini/breathing meditation.. that brought real-results! If I'm going to believe in something, I want to see & experience & feel it! Vishnu/Krishna.. who's everything, everybody, in every sub atomic particle/mer-ka-ba & multi-cosmos-uversises.. oh yeah.. all at the same time too. Well.. come on.. if God is gonna be God.. may as well me a youthful-forever God living a good life. Right?! All that 'energy' effervecsing throught him like a prism sending out splinters of pure light to well.. no plan in particular.. really.. just..it is.. it's life.. it is.. as if.. why not? givvit a whirl!! But, anyway, wasn't into wearing orange frocks & like my beer, plus they're a bunch of wierdos if you ask me. eeek! Science!.. I'll just scribble that again shall I? Science. I love those BBC-2, BBC-4 & Channel 4 Science programs..! esp: on nature & quantam physics where a soothing assuring well spoken.. but ever so slightly enthusiatic voices.. narrates over the chill-out fusion sounds to colourful computer graphics showing atoms, particles, universes, fractals, DNA binding, cell division.. such wonderful stuff! Even athiests like some of this science stuff! Science to Religious people.. is like looking into Pandoras Box. They'd like to! but the man in the suit on the telly.. frowns.. sweating furiously.. demanding you avoid science, & instead pay $11.99 for the latest merchandise. Thankyou. Make sense. Simples! Note: If you want to type this FAST!!!!.. I use the Microsoft Natural Keyboard.. where it's PERFECT..! for typing faster than Gromit can lay down fresh tracks. By the way.. nahh.. doesn't matter.. gonna go now.. tired. oh shit..! i forgot to buy some bread.. oh well.. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845711 United States 12/09/2011 09:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are brain damaged. As children they were lied to in the most heinous way about the nature of reality and recovering from that takes incredibly high courage. Most people never recover and then inflict it on the next generation. The slow crawl away from the madness of religion is taking hundreds of years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2840313 ^this^ As children we were all lied to in state schools. If one ever becomes Christian it is only thru personal research later in life. Brainwashing is not, as some anti-Christian educators and students contend, the Biblical process of training our children to love and follow God. The word "brainwashing" refers to a planned, step-by-step attempt to "wash" family-taught beliefs from the minds of those who oppose government ideology. In America, it would mean replacing the old Biblical values and world view with a new way of thinking that would support a totalitarian agenda. In other words, every child must become a peace child, a willing and active servant of a new world order. [link to www.crossroad.to] The Illuminati's atheist brainwashing began with the French Revolution. [link to atheists.org] [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6845711 United States 12/09/2011 09:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Karl Marx’s role "We must war against all prevailing ideas of religion, of the state, of country, of patriotism. The idea of God is the keynote of a perverted civilization. It must be destroyed." - Karl Marx Marxism Communism and Evolution Theory [link to www.youtube.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6472082 United States 12/09/2011 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What makes you think you are any better. There not hurting nobody. Leave them alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1253914 I beg to differ indeed their religion(S) around the world breed stupidity beleive in santa the tooth fairy superman it is as smart. Viking gods make way more sense I beg to differ you think the schools are better or worse since we took God out of the school and im a buddhist by the way. Religion isn't allowed in schools (except Atheism) A good teacher would take an Agnostic stance and let the children decide for themselves, but they get paid the big bucks to demonize any belief other than abiogenesis (just like any good political religion) But citizens who think for themselves are harder to control, so let's make them Atheists so they'll look to the State for authority like good worker robots do Churches and families (parents) are for teaching religion to children. That is not the function of a public school. Of course, we could have it your way and begin demanding that preachers and ministers begin teaching science (real science, not crazy Creationism)in Church. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6860996 United States 12/09/2011 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Religion is irrevocable evidence that you can get people to believe anything if you persist long enough. Another tactic of religion is to create a psychological environment of titillation and terror, undermine a person's sense of individuality and self worth, and consistently herd them into groups on a regular basis so that they can be trained and brainwashed to train and brainwash all other members in the group. Churches, kingdom halls, and synagogs serve this purpose. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6860609 Canada 12/09/2011 10:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can definitely see why you would think this. Thing is you gotta try and search. Then something happens that makes you know this ain't no freaken fairytale. There is a God. Search and you find. You just do. But you can't just sit there and say why, why, why?? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1122898 United States 12/10/2011 02:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They believe it for the simple reason that they're incessantly trained to believe it from infancy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6860996 Religion is irrevocable evidence that you can get people to believe anything if you persist long enough. Another tactic of religion is to create a psychological environment of titillation and terror, undermine a person's sense of individuality and self worth, and consistently herd them into groups on a regular basis so that they can be trained and brainwashed to train and brainwash all other members in the group. Churches, kingdom halls, and synagogs serve this purpose. Exactly. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6868023 Australia 12/10/2011 02:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't read a post that answered the OP's original post in this thread. There are two reasons that people indoctrinate you into religion. Some people hope that it will bring you hope for the future and a sense of belonging. By instilling a sense of right and wrong into a person it gives them the desire to be a model citizen for the reward offered by the religion. This is done for two reasons, so that the person will observe the law and have fewer problems with those able to injure them. The second reason is more sinister. By creating model citizens you reduce the overhead of law enforcement in a region allowing you to control and dictate to those citizens more effectively and efficiently. To protect a child from others is in every parents interest so that's why we get sent to sunday school. |
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dudeguyman User ID: 1332912 United States 12/10/2011 03:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ir seems no matter who I talk to, they seem to still desperately cling to their belief in false deities and mystical space santa clauses granting them wishes, even though it makes ZERO sense on EVERY LEVEL. The indoctrination of people by these false, illogical, ridiculous, small minded, and spiritually stagnating concepts of religion are hard for people to snap out of. They WANT to believe in judgement, etc. I am fascinated at this. Why do people desperately cling to these fairy tales, praying to saints, false deities, mother mary statues, etc? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1122898 Their common sense and logic goes straight out the window and there is no talking to them about the other possibilities that await in the afterlife. Do you know people like this, who will not open their mind to the deception that is religion. Please discuss. what makes you say that everything science tells u is true? and aliens is true? and evolution, athiesm bullshit is true? weak minded person... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6817332 Belarus 12/10/2011 03:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Scripture is pretty clear - you can\'t know God until He calls or you reach out to Him. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1531907 So, until that happens for you, you can have absolutely no idea. I\'d make a suggetion - if He hasn\'t called you and we are at this stage, you had better offer up a prayer to Him. He DOES answer. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6738478 Belgium 12/10/2011 04:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know, Atheists are crazy, right? Believing something that can't be scientifically proven... sounds nutty Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1155040 Why is it that whenever somebody speaks out against religion they are labeled an Atheist. Stupid fuck. That's not how it works. As a matter of fact, it's got absolutely jack shit to do with it. But maybe it's just too difficult for you to understand. Wouldn't surprise me actually as religion causes brain damage. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 6688570 United States 12/10/2011 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ir seems no matter who I talk to, they seem to still desperately cling to their belief in false deities and mystical space santa clauses granting them wishes, even though it makes ZERO sense on EVERY LEVEL. The indoctrination of people by these false, illogical, ridiculous, small minded, and spiritually stagnating concepts of religion are hard for people to snap out of. They WANT to believe in judgement, etc. I am fascinated at this. Why do people desperately cling to these fairy tales, praying to saints, false deities, mother mary statues, etc? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1122898 Their common sense and logic goes straight out the window and there is no talking to them about the other possibilities that await in the afterlife. Do you know people like this, who will not open their mind to the deception that is religion. Please discuss. I don't cling to the fairy tales of religion, I believe in the "fairy" tales themselves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1406613 Australia 12/10/2011 06:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP what will you replace Peoples Beliefs with? You will need to replace it with something better. What will you Re-assure a dying relative with? Because study's show people who pray to God (have more hope) and therefore are more inclined to get better, when sick in hospitals. A little hope goes along long way |
JohnC User ID: 3905692 United States 12/10/2011 07:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As I get older and learn more about the world/universe/etc. my faith deepens. Things like evolution just reinforce my belief in God. Seriously, the atheists' arguement comes down to throwing cans of paint in the air, having it land on a canvas and producing the Mona Lisa. In fact I find people who are atheist are just like the religious people you are complaining about. Atheists who still cling to the fairytales of science. Like gravity. No one has the slightest idea how this works. Yet people continue to believe in this unknown unseen force that's holding the universe together. Come on. Evolution means God doesn't exist. Really? The only people that believe this are people who don't understand how evolution works. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1122898 United States 12/10/2011 07:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nobody said a God doesn't exist, I'm saying there's no way it's the one portrayed in the bible or any other false deity cult religion. It's fear-based deception, the real God, that does exist, would not need to stoop to fear tactics to get his point across, all this negative creepy, and downright goofy pagan nonsense talking about how everyone's soul will be saved from murdering someone with nails on wood, but only souls from that point forward will be saved, doesn't mention the billions of people that died prior. Too many holes. People put so much importance on some tall tale of talking bushes and mystical nonsense that no one ever sees in person, simply because it was written with alot of "thou's" and "ye's". Who wrote it? Why trust them implicitly? You don't know them or their motives. People have quite LARGE imaginations for story telling and folklore. I was born again, went through all that brainwashing, and have come out the other side, realizing it left me cold, empty, and FULL OF SHIT. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 6693825 United States 12/10/2011 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ir seems no matter who I talk to, they seem to still desperately cling to their belief in false deities and mystical space santa clauses granting them wishes, even though it makes ZERO sense on EVERY LEVEL. The indoctrination of people by these false, illogical, ridiculous, small minded, and spiritually stagnating concepts of religion are hard for people to snap out of. They WANT to believe in judgement, etc. I am fascinated at this. Why do people desperately cling to these fairy tales, praying to saints, false deities, mother mary statues, etc? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1122898 Their common sense and logic goes straight out the window and there is no talking to them about the other possibilities that await in the afterlife. Do you know people like this, who will not open their mind to the deception that is religion. Please discuss. Another mental masturbation thread. Here is a novel idea, why the fuck do you worry about what other people believe? |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 1122898 United States 12/10/2011 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ir seems no matter who I talk to, they seem to still desperately cling to their belief in false deities and mystical space santa clauses granting them wishes, even though it makes ZERO sense on EVERY LEVEL. The indoctrination of people by these false, illogical, ridiculous, small minded, and spiritually stagnating concepts of religion are hard for people to snap out of. They WANT to believe in judgement, etc. I am fascinated at this. Why do people desperately cling to these fairy tales, praying to saints, false deities, mother mary statues, etc? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1122898 Their common sense and logic goes straight out the window and there is no talking to them about the other possibilities that await in the afterlife. Do you know people like this, who will not open their mind to the deception that is religion. Please discuss. Another mental masturbation thread. Here is a novel idea, why the fuck do you worry about what other people believe? Who said I was "worried" about anything? Relax, this is a forum, and it's called a discussion, what a novel idea. You are free to not post and go back to watching the ball game. |