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SEN. Bernie Sanders (I) VT ~ Petitions to end Corporate Personhood.

 
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SEN. Bernie Sanders (I) VT ~ Petitions to end Corporate Personhood.
This is a petition put together to end Corporate Personhood and get the money out of politics. Everybody in America quite often shares the same sentiment that our government keeps getting bought off by corporations. Most people are sick and tired of it and want the money out of politics. So Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont who is neither democrat nor republican, but an independent, made an online petition to stop it. One of the most important petitions in American history. Everybody says, "I know our government is corrupt but what can I do about it?" This is what. Stop complaining about it and do something about it.
Sign this petition.


EDIT: The amendment clearly states that it refers only to "For profit corporations"

[link to sanders.senate.gov]


a PDF document of the actual resolution and text of the amendment.
[link to sanders.senate.gov]


Whether you are Republican or Democrat, Activist, or Conspiracy Theorist, we can all agree we want money out politics. I know a lot of people on here don't live in America but hopefully people will see this because it is definitely important for American citizens.

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Churches and unions are legally corporations too. If this happens, they will loses their voice forever.
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If it wasn't for those conservative activist judges on the Supreme Court ruling corporations are a person.
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I really have no problem with this in principal, but only if it applies to unions as well. The maximum donation that an individual person can make to an individual candidate is $2,500. There are additional monies that can be given to parties but it is far less than what either corporations or unions donate.

here is a chart of the allowed donations:
[link to www.fec.gov]

If you take away only the corporate donations then the unions will be able to buy every election. That is what is really at stake here. Do we keep the level playing field we have now with everybody spending ridiculous money, make it unbalanced be keeping corporations out of the political arena, or keep a level playing field at a lower price point by taking out both corporations and unions.

In case you wonder how elections would go if we get were to remove only corporate donations, scan this list to see how many donations would be made by republican leaning groups if unions still donate after removing corporations.

[link to www.opensecrets.org]
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Churches and unions are legally corporations too. If this happens, they will loses their voice forever.
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The amendment specifically says. "FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS" read the amendment. Neither Churches nor Unions are for profit.

It is here

[link to sanders.senate.gov]


a pdf doc you can read that clearly states it.
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I really have no problem with this in principal, but only if it applies to unions as well. The maximum donation that an individual person can make to an individual candidate is $2,500. There are additional monies that can be given to parties but it is far less than what either corporations or unions donate.

here is a chart of the allowed donations:
[link to www.fec.gov]

If you take away only the corporate donations then the unions will be able to buy every election. That is what is really at stake here. Do we keep the level playing field we have now with everybody spending ridiculous money, make it unbalanced be keeping corporations out of the political arena, or keep a level playing field at a lower price point by taking out both corporations and unions.

In case you wonder how elections would go if we get were to remove only corporate donations, scan this list to see how many donations would be made by republican leaning groups if unions still donate after removing corporations.

[link to www.opensecrets.org]
 Quoting: your mom 6869049


Part of the amendment in section 4 shows that Congress will be able to regulate the campaign finance laws. That means Unions will not be able to buy up elections because it will be regulated if this is amended.

also I believe Unions would fall under private entities to promote business interest. I could be wrong, but if not...it will still be regulated.
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Signed, Sealed, Delivered!
Thanks' OP!
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Signed, Sealed, Delivered!
Thanks' OP!
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+1
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Thanks guy keep them coming if you could.
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Churches and unions are legally corporations too. If this happens, they will loses their voice forever.
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The amendment specifically says. "FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS" read the amendment. Neither Churches nor Unions are for profit.

It is here

[link to sanders.senate.gov]


a pdf doc you can read that clearly states it.
 Quoting: Apotheosis


Unions are not for profit???....lol...
Fuck Socialist Sanders and the horse he rode in on.
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Churches and unions are legally corporations too. If this happens, they will loses their voice forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6754315


The amendment specifically says. "FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS" read the amendment. Neither Churches nor Unions are for profit.

It is here

[link to sanders.senate.gov]


a pdf doc you can read that clearly states it.
 Quoting: Apotheosis


Unions are not for profit???....lol...
Fuck Socialist Sanders and the horse he rode in on.
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You sir.....have a lot to learn.
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As a retired Union member I have donated to the Union's Political Fund. I also donated when I was working. I was not ever coerced into giving nor was any of my Union Dues used for Political Funds. To donate or not to was my choice. Now as a Stock Holder I have no choice about Political donations. Funds that could be paid as dividends or reinvested in the Company go to Political funds and I have no choice in the matter. I want the Supreme Court to explain that to me.
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Churches and unions are legally corporations too. If this happens, they will loses their voice forever.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6754315


The amendment specifically says. "FOR PROFIT CORPORATIONS" read the amendment. Neither Churches nor Unions are for profit.

It is here

[link to sanders.senate.gov]


a pdf doc you can read that clearly states it.
 Quoting: Apotheosis


Churches are profit making corporations. They make huge profits.

If this is the Move To Amend thingy, it's sired by the 'occupy' movement, so...





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